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Let’s not forget Mermaids telling children if they play with GI Joe they’re a boy and if they like Barbies then they’re a girl.
duck that tit. I won’t have my daughter listening to that absolute bullshit.

By mermaids standards I’d have transitioned to male when I was a kid. Most of my toys were ‘boys’, I never wore (and still never wear) skirts or dresses, most of my friends were boys , abs I have a strong aversion to the colour pink. Back in ye olde days there was little emphasis on toys being aggressively for boys or girls and everyone played whatever part they wanted. Either sex can be interested in anything, it doesn’t mean they need to change who they are. My nephew used to love running about in fairy wings and one of his favourite colours was (and still is) pink. If I was a young kid watching their presentation I would have started to worry that I was supposed to be a boy.

I always thought transition was for people who’s body didn’t match how they saw themselves in their head and took steps to medicate/have surgery. It wasn’t your choice of toys or how you express yourself in your dress.

That was why I asked the people arguing with me how they define a woman: if you can’t describe a woman by referring to her biology, what’s left?

How I present myself as a woman is very different to how my sister, mum, and friends present themselves. We all have very different interests and values, we react to things differently, we feel things differently, and we live our lives differently. There’s no one way you can say you’re ‘acting as a man/woman’.
 
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By mermaids standards I’d have transitioned to male when I was a kid. Most of my toys were ‘boys’, I never wore (and still never wear) skirts or dresses, most of my friends were boys , abs I have a strong aversion to the colour pink. Back in ye olde days there was little emphasis on toys being aggressively for boys or girls and everyone played whatever part they wanted. Either sex can be interested in anything, it doesn’t mean they need to change who they are. My nephew used to love running about in fairy wings and one of his favourite colours was (and still is) pink. If I was a young kid watching their presentation I would have started to worry that I was supposed to be a boy.

I always thought transition was for people who’s body didn’t match how they saw themselves in their head and took steps to medicate/have surgery. It wasn’t your choice of toys or how you express yourself in your dress.

That was why I asked the people arguing with me how they define a woman: if you can’t describe a woman by referring to her biology, what’s left?

How I present myself as a woman is very different to how my sister, mum, and friends present themselves. We all have very different interests and values, we react to things differently, we feel things differently, and we live our lives differently. There’s no one way you can say you’re ‘acting as a man/woman’.
This is exactly why I find a lot of the talk about gender stereotypes to be completely regressive. Harry Styles enjoys lace and skirts. Doesn’t mean he is trans. Billy Porter wears a gown to the Oscars, a full on gown. He is a man in a dress, it is not drag, he is not trans. He is expressing himself through fashion. That is almost the most revolutionary way of thinking of all. Ellen always wears a suit, she has short hair. She is married to a woman, she has never said she is a man.
 
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Let’s not forget Mermaids telling children if they play with GI Joe they’re a boy and if they like Barbies then they’re a girl.
duck that tit. I won’t have my daughter listening to that absolute bullshit.
Totally agree.

I used to come into contact with someone had changed genders from a man to a woman.The men in the office used to make crude comments behind her back but I found her quiet and dignified. She was very brave because this was a long time ago and she would have felt very isolated I would imagine.

Jk is allowed an opinion. Women make up 51 % of the population or the MAJORITY. Yet we are still treated terribly. Yes we have made significant advances in the last few years but have a long way still to go. Look at today's papers- the rape culture in schools shows misogyny is thriving .

I will always be grateful to JK Rowling.
She wrote the most popular books in recent times and at their heart she put a bunch of misfits. The kid who wears glasses ,the ginger boy from a big family, the swotty girl with buck teeth. Geeky Nevil and clutzy Shamus- they were the heroes.
She made loyalty, decency,kindness and friendship heroes with them.
I salute you Jk.
 
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Kim still doesn’t look female, though. Feminine maybe, but female?
Personally I think you can tell from the voice, something about the face shape and especially so from the side.
Everyone has biases. Perhaps as women we can tell these things better than men. And obviously people are who more sympathetic to the whole trans movement will be adamant you can't tell. I personally think there are always tells that someone is trans.
 
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Personally I think you can tell from the voice, something about the face shape and especially so from the side.
Everyone has biases. Perhaps as women we can tell these things better than men. And obviously people are who more sympathetic to the whole trans movement will be adamant you can't tell. I personally think there are always tells that someone is trans.
There is definitely bias in both directions, but I genuinely saw Kim Petras before I knew she was trans (I like pop music, don't judge ok?! :D ) and I had no idea until someone told me.
 
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I think animals would know. For example, some abused rescue dogs can only be homed in female only houses because they fear men. It seems simplistic, I am not trrying to be trivial, but I know a man who turns up to adopt who presents as a female wouldn't fool a dog. Kim Petras wouldn't . By the benchmark used that means even a dog is transphobic.
 
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I can tell. Maybe it’s because I know. But in person I would be able to tell on instinct.
blaire once did a video with arielle and I think it was on arrielle’s channel as the angles weren’t as flattering. Was a big difference in both their head size and shoulders. I think the more work Blaire has had done the less they pass, more of a drag queen look now. Where as a couple of years ago I think she passed on her own channel with the right angles and before she speaks. I like blaire and think she has a lot of common sense, but I don’t think she is happy and isn’t always honest about that. I do think as time goes on she will pass less and less. Men’s skulls thicken in their 30s, and there frames get broader. Not much can be done about that
 
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I didn’t know Kim Petras was trans until this thread. I’ve seen her music videos tweeted and didn’t twig. I accept most transitions after puberty are not like hers.
 
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I'm not going to lie I had no idea who this person was until this thread. Now I've just googled her and I'm sorry but I am not seeing what some of you are seeing. In the photos that have been clearly edited or whatever, yeah presents more feminine - because edited. Any of the photos that aren't..you're reeeeally telling me you think this looks like a natural biological woman?
 

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That in no way looks like an actual woman. A slightly pornified take on what many men think a woman is? Sure.
 
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Transitioning before puberty is one I can’t get my head around.
i don’t know how anyone could do that to a child.
And I don’t know how it fits in with my gender critical views. I don’t know who Kim is. But with her, Jackie green and poor old jazz j...they will never be biologically female. But in terms of socialisation, they will have been treated as female in during teenage years. So how much would make entitlement come into play? I do think it’s a different situation.

I'm not going to lie I had no idea who this person was until this thread. Now I've just googled her and I'm sorry but I am not seeing what some of you are seeing. In the photos that have been clearly edited or whatever, yeah presents more feminine - because edited. Any of the photos that aren't..you're reeeeally telling me you think this looks like a natural biological woman?
Also don’t know who this person is. I think she looks like a teenage boy with make up. But the voice isn’t male so i would probably think it was a manly looking woman if I didn’t know. Based on voice
 
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Also don’t know who this person is. I think she looks like a teenage boy with make up. But the voice isn’t male so i would probably think it was a manly looking woman if I didn’t know. Based on voice
I get what you mean but I think there are so many things that tell you whether someone is male or female that I wouldn't think someone is necessarily female even if their voice sounded that way. For me it's a combination of factors and generally trans people have at least one but usually more that give it away.
 
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Transitioning before puberty is one I can’t get my head around.
i don’t know how anyone could do that to a child.
I do think that in rare circumstances someone who does have genuine gender dysphoria could have it as a young child (although medical transition may still do more harm than good) but for some it is good old fashioned homophobia - there have been multiple whistle blowers from the Tavistock saying that parents took their children in and wanted them to be 'fixed' by making them 'straight men' instead of lesbians and 'straight women' instead of gay men.

There is also the case of Kai Shappley - they are currently a MtF child actress who is currently either 9 or 10 (not sure of birth date)- their mother happily recounts that she started screaming at and "very hard" spanking the child for 'acting too girly' from the age of, at a minimum, 3 (she said she suspected Kai was gay from 18 months so I doubt a woman like that waited until Kai was 3.) Here are some quotes she's given about her child...

[I realised that Kai] "might be gay. And I thought that could not happen. That would not happen..."

No matter how much she hurt the child they still acted girly so after a few years the mum realised that her son wasn't gay... they were actually a woman. Problem solved!

"my kid was praying to die. All of the information & data that I had read about transgender children having a 41 percent risk of attempting suicide came flooding back & I realized that I had a 4-year-old who was begging the Lord to let her die... (rather than) stay here & have to live as a boy one more day."

99.9% of the articles you'll find about them are positive and talking about how wonderful it was for Kai's mother to overcome her bigotry and realise that Kai was trans and let her be happy.

There have been multiple murders of young boys throughout the years because their parents thought they 'acted gay' even at 3 years old (such as Ronnie Paris) and they'd rather have a dead son than a gay son. Considering the mother has possibly played down the 'punishments' she inflicted in Kai, it's probably lucky that Kai is still alive at all, though having transitioned at four I doubt they'll ever now detransition.
 
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I'm not going to lie I had no idea who this person was until this thread. Now I've just googled her and I'm sorry but I am not seeing what some of you are seeing. In the photos that have been clearly edited or whatever, yeah presents more feminine - because edited. Any of the photos that aren't..you're reeeeally telling me you think this looks like a natural biological woman?
I think she looks female.

I mean, we've all seen biological women who look masculine, so it's not clear cut anyway.
 
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I think she looks female.

I mean, we've all seen biological women who look masculine, so it's not clear cut anyway.
I know - you've said so repeatedly, I'm not trying to change your mind. There is no way that person looks female to me, that's all.
Yes, sometimes women have certain masculine features, but this is usually outweighed by other feminine features. There is not much about Kim that looks naturally female to me, sorry.
 
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