And if it was, there is no question of who would win.I didn’t think this is a competition to see who has it worse.
You're exactly right. We can't lose sight of the Palestinians reality.I just find it odd that people still come on here to post stuff that apparently show Jews being victimised. I’m sure they still do get abuse, from small minded people, no-one is or has ever denied that, it’s wrong.
I just don’t understand the point? Everyday that a child is murdered, or rather children and it’s posted here and then someone comes on and posts something about antisemitism it’s baffling.
Maybe I’m being incredibly stupid, but I didn’t think this is a competition to see who has it worse.
argh Hamas want 30 Palestinians back for every hostage, can see how this gives Israel an opportunity to say no.Saw this on AlJazeera.
I dont get why that would even be a problem? Its part of the conflict, the rise in antisemitism is a direct consequence of the conflict there.I just find it odd that people still come on here to post stuff that apparently show Jews being victimised. I’m sure they still do get abuse, from small minded people, no-one is or has ever denied that, it’s wrong.
I just don’t understand the point? Everyday that a child is murdered, or rather children and it’s posted here and then someone comes on and posts something about antisemitism it’s baffling.
Maybe I’m being incredibly stupid, but I didn’t think this is a competition to see who has it worse.
Proportionally, Israel hold many more Palestinian prisoners than Hamas do. So why wouldn’t it be accepted? Because the Israeli lives are worth more? We’ve already seen they mean nothing to Netanyahu, or else why would he refuse? The deal is there to get them ALL back. Why would releasing more Palestinians be a problem to him? Why does he still want more Palestinian prisoners? Don’t you see how ridiculous that argument is?argh Hamas want 30 Palestinians back for every hostage, can see how this gives Israel an opportunity to say no.
and in the second stage they want all Palestinian prisoners released?
That's never going to happen.
Sceptical head on me says they (Hamas) knew Israel would never agree to this deal.
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I dont get why that would even be a problem? Its part of the conflict, the rise in antisemitism is a direct consequence of the conflict there.
It's classic whataboutery. Typical derailing / trolling / propaganda technique.My point is that the way it’s posted, like the two are the same and it can’t possibly be true that children are being murdered because look at what’s happening here.
I don’t believe it is a problem/the OP was saying it was. It’s something Isreal will use to continue to bomb Gaza because their argument is that all/most of those people will be hamas so they won’t want to release them which obviously is ridiculous to the normal person because those people are mostly innocent civilians that have been imprisoned wrongly, with no trial for doing nothing.Proportionally, Israel hold many more Palestinian prisoners than Hamas do. So why wouldn’t it be accepted? Because the Israeli lives are worth more? We’ve already seen they mean nothing to Netanyahu, or else why would he refuse? The deal is there to get them ALL back. Why would releasing more Palestinians be a problem to him? Why does he still want more Palestinian prisoners? Don’t you see how ridiculous that argument is?
Also bearing in mind that a large majority of those ‘prisoners’ in Israel are held without charge or trial. Including an 8 year old boy who was shot just the other day.
Exactly. What are some kids orphaned due to Israeli bombs going to do when they grow up? Pick up a weapon and fight back. Then be labelled a terrorist. Israel’s strategy of ‘wiping out Hamas’ only works if they kill every single person otherwise people will fight back. And so the cycle of violence will continue.Half of those people that have been imprisoned wrongly, their homes have been destroyed, their family’s have been murdered..what do they have to live for anymore? Some of them probably will fight back.
This is what I meant by the bombing to “wipe out hamas” will never happen because of Israel’s actions
"Down there are people who will follow any dragon, worship any god, ignore any iniquity. They accept evil not because they say yes, but because they don't say no." - Terry PratchettMy point is that the way it’s posted, like the two are the same and it can’t possibly be true that children are being murdered because look at what’s happening here.
This is exactly what happens every time there’s a hostage swap * becauseThat's never going to happen.
Sceptical head on me says they (Hamas) knew Israel would never agree to this deal.
I feel that a lot of people are uneducated on the difference between Judaism and Zionism and I know the lines are blurred with some denominations but not all because many Jews are appalled by what’s happening and they’re out there demonstrating and being active on SM and expressing their dislike of the current situation/government in Israel.I just find it odd that people still come on here to post stuff that apparently show Jews being victimised. I’m sure they still do get abuse, from small minded people, no-one is or has ever denied that, it’s wrong.
I just don’t understand the point? Everyday that a child is murdered, or rather children and it’s posted here and then someone comes on and posts something about antisemitism it’s baffling.
Maybe I’m being incredibly stupid, but I didn’t think this is a competition to see who has it worse.
Plus it was an Israeli deal I know mediators put it forward headed by the Americans but come on it was given the green light first because the Americans wouldn’t have put it forward otherwise.Proportionally, Israel hold many more Palestinian prisoners than Hamas do. So why wouldn’t it be accepted? Because the Israeli lives are worth more? We’ve already seen they mean nothing to Netanyahu, or else why would he refuse? The deal is there to get them ALL back. Why would releasing more Palestinians be a problem to him? Why does he still want more Palestinian prisoners? Don’t you see how ridiculous that argument is?
Also bearing in mind that a large majority of those ‘prisoners’ in Israel are held without charge or trial. Including an 8 year old boy who was shot just the other day.
Well to Israel (not to us outside Israel\Palestine), yes the Israeli lives are worth more. So they wont accept a 30/1 ratio of captive swap. I feel that's fairly obvious. it was a ceasefire proposal that was designed to fail IMO.Proportionally, Israel hold many more Palestinian prisoners than Hamas do. So why wouldn’t it be accepted? Because the Israeli lives are worth more? We’ve already seen they mean nothing to Netanyahu, or else why would he refuse? The deal is there to get them ALL back. Why would releasing more Palestinians be a problem to him? Why does he still want more Palestinian prisoners? Don’t you see how ridiculous that argument is?
Also bearing in mind that a large majority of those ‘prisoners’ in Israel are held without charge or trial. Including an 8 year old boy who was shot just the other day.
I totally don't see it that way, I see Palestine being eviscerated and normal Jewish people in countries outside of Israel suffering the consequences of their governments' action (goes without saying incomparable than the Palestinian genocide but absolutely should not be happening all the same.)My point is that the way it’s posted, like the two are the same and it can’t possibly be true that children are being murdered because look at what’s happening here.
Even if they manage to get rid of every Palestinian in Gaza, they won't stop there. They'll go even harder on the West Bank and try to expand into Southern Lebanon and god know where else. What I'm looking for is some sort of realisation of the scale of the crimes they've committed, a 'what have we done' moment of horror and regret that appears unlikely to ever come.After watching last nights destruction and considering the indifference from the rest of the world to the IOF atrocities I got to thinking (I know ridiculously) lets just get all the Palestinians out of Palestine, let the fecking Israelis have it all, they can all just fecking sit in there and rot, the rest of the world can cease trading with them, no airlines or ships service the place and they can all just sit there and think how bloody wonderful they feel knowing the whole world hates them but they have all the land, then they can all just go to hell.
The Palestinians can go live some beautiful place, peacefully and just enjoy their lives.
Yeah, tell my dumb dumb prime minister that. Actually, I will give him a piece of my mind, the twerp. Here's the clip where he says "Zionism is not a dirty word."I feel that a lot of people are uneducated on the difference between Judaism and Zionism
Edit: Late night reading means I read your apostrophe in the wrong place, and I acknowledge this was not your meaning. I'll leave the post as is otherwise, as I still believe the point, but I fully recognise this was not your intention.I totally don't see it that way, I see Palestine being eviscerated and normal Jewish people in countries outside of Israel suffering the consequences of their governments' action (goes without saying incomparable than the Palestinian genocide but absolutely should not be happening all the same.)
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