It wasnāt clear at all, believe me. Just me not knowing about doxing when the big reveal happened.No idea how anyone could ever conclude that I could be a flying monkey...
PS: I have to admit I cannot stand my own avatar anymore.
It was hard but I managed 5 minutes:
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Thatās rich referring to her as the Instagram lady! What the heck does she think she is? Jealous much AE?
āPrettyā actress? Lots of money and houses? And famous actor? Is he even considered famous? I think this is the most press he has ever had. I kind of believe it is about her since she hasnāt commented, same as the age thing, but wondering about these details. I would like watch her spin this, if it is true.
My sibling was the narc and she singlehandedly made the rest of our lives a living hell. She had a chronic illness and was treated like a Princess and allowed to abuse me and my other sibling. She loved to terrorize us, especially me as I was younger. She physically hurt me as well as emotionally. I was afraid of her even as an adult. My parents enabled the crap out of her, particularly my dad. Even with special treatment, she was extremely cruel to our mom. Itās so easy to recognize AE as a narc, it was nearly instant for me. When they meltdown itās terrifying beyond belief. I donāt doubt that poor Elsie has panic attacks. My sister and I both had them. Btw, narc sibling thrived on drama and chaos.My hot take on AE and narcissism.
Narcissists are made not born.
Itās not a condition that you can be born with. Itās a learnt pattern of behaviour. Generally learnt from parents or other primary care givers.
A narc will often have a relationship with another complimentary narc or an enabler. The enabler is often also a child of narc(s) but not always a narc themselves. Sometimes they fall into the flying monkey category. Sometimes they are just so ground down by the narc, they may as well not be there. Sometimes they are a narc in their own right (my parents are a bog standard narc mom and a cerebral narc dad - he made a load of money and propped up her lifestyle, she made him feel smart and ānormalā).
Narc parents will often use their children as tools to prop themselves up. They see their children as elevated pets - they love them in their own way, but they must be controlled at all times and obey the narc. They will also be used to project stuff onto that the narc doesnāt want to have to deal with.
There will often be a Golden Child. This child can do no wrong: they are the best child, the narcās favourite. The narc will have high expectations of the GC. The GC will try to fulfill these expectations so as to get the love and attention of the Narc.
There will also be a scapegoat child. The SG is the worst child. They are always wrong. Their achievements are nothing. They often deal with the Narcās projections.
In single child families the child will often swing between GC and SG.
Other children will sometimes play the roles depending on what the narc needs or generally be forgotten about.
The Narc will triangulate their children all the time, making sure they can never build a bond stronger than that with the narc. The narc must always be in control of everyone.
The GC will often grow up to become a narc themselves, if they keep sipping the cool aid. Itās what theyāve learnt from the narc. The Scape goat and other children will also often display narc tendencies as thatās all they know, but find it much easier to unlearn these behaviours (I was the SG and used to have whatās known as narc āfleasā or āticksā - itās taken years for me to unlearn some of these behaviours).
My theory with AE is that her mom may have been a narc and AE her Golden child. When mom died, dad and brothers are finally free of the pattern of behaviour dominated by the mom. AE by this point is probably full narc as well but she doesnāt the control over them that mom used to have. Dad meets a new lady, they all fall out because AW throws a narc tantrum.
The best family to look to to see how it looks in reality is Keeping Up With The Kardashians. Kris Jenner is a typical narc (learnt from MJ - note how you never hardly see anything about Krisās sisters and the cousins on that side). Kim is her GC, more recently being usurped by Kylie.
Rob was the scapegoat, but when he cut contact, Kourtney and to an extent Kendall became the SG (note how Kris never sticks up for them or has their backs). Khloe is absolutely desperate for love and attention and will do anything for Kris and Kim to get it.
Happy to answer any questions anyone has about narcs
In fairness, I think Michael sheen and Matthew Rhys are better actors than he is. I think he bought into his hype and simply didnāt have the goods to back it up.
Itās interesting that there are a few of us here who have come from families with narcissists in them. I reckon we can all see the signs of it in Alice and it is drawing us to her story.My sibling was the narc and she singlehandedly made the rest of our lives a living hell. She had a chronic illness and was treated like a Princess and allowed to abuse me and my other sibling. She loved to terrorize us, especially me as I was younger. She physically hurt me as well as emotionally. I was afraid of her even as an adult. My parents enabled the crap out of her, particularly my dad. Even with special treatment, she was extremely cruel to our mom. Itās so easy to recognize AE as a narc, it was nearly instant for me. When they meltdown itās terrifying beyond belief. I donāt doubt that poor Elsie has panic attacks. My sister and I both had them. Btw, narc sibling thrived on drama and chaos.
And I believe Ella could be the GC.
Did anyone see where AE was asking about doing āCameoā where celebrities āsnortā make video messages for people and get paid? Someone said not to do it because it looks like youāre desperate for money!
Hi friends & fam of BW! 
This is absolutely true. Alice is working from an old playbook. Sheās not even aware of it herself. Itās awful for her and everyone around her. But so many of us have seen this play out and know exactly where itās going to go. And what is with the narcissist obsession with āhatersā? Itās so Trumpian, so juvenile, so utterly ridiculous. No one is out to destroy Alice, except Alice herself. No-one really gives a tit. She should move in with Deb and Henry Morgan Scarf and Gloria. They can all cackle about Ioan and Bianca all day while the girls continue to raise themselves until they can get far far away.
Maybe because she posed on that boat over the Mediterranean in a precarious pose or because sheās thin and limber looking. Sheās probably imagining sexual things she can do for IG that she herself canāt do anymore. Sheās so focused on sex with him. Jealous af!
Alice has shown SO MUCH bad behavior in public over the years, why the hell is it this unrealistic that she did in private too, and that those two things combined are enough for the guy to walk away?
She worked in an accountancy company until she tried out acting, was in one of the Daily Mail articles.
