Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #53 Don't be bitter, be Bee!

[BigBonedBuzzard]

what's funny about the OP situation: there is a interview of Alice where she greatly talks about her and Ioan having a relationship behind his back and she only told him after over a year and shortly before she and Ioan had their first red carpet appearance together.

Wait, they were screwing behind OPs back for a year? Well, Alice, then shut up about infidelity. I really thought they hooked up, had a bit of a thing for a month, decided they wanna stay together. Not a whole year. This woman. It's now even possible that Ioan cheating on Alice with Bianca (if there even was cheating) lasted less time.

Ok, and now an uncomfortable thought. We were wondering what Ioan saw in Alice in the first place, and it makes me wonder if it was also the thrill of this? He was basicly banging Pablo Picasso's grandson's crazy chick. Good stuff for an altar boy from Cardiff. It's kinda like a masculinity booster, you know?

 

[Katie8ee]

Morning! For the second time I have work to do today and then my pseudo kiddo (one of my live in team who are on their three month Winter break) is coming to stay over so it's going to be a whisky & trivial pursuit sesh. I'm going to miss loads! Please please tag me if something epic happens

Usually some tit goes down on a Monday as it's lawyer day. I do agree the IG/BW pr train is rolling through the town causing just the right ripples. In regards to her health insurance when I got a visa for both Canada and USA as a condition I had to have valid insurance to cover my stay and to show proof at port of entry.

Happy Monday!!!!

 

[FlirtyThirty]

That deserves more than one



So many unanswered questions.

Has Alice secretly relocated to the Netherlands?

Is Loopy Lupine behind her ‘Presisent’ campaign?

Did Gloria secretly murder the squirrel?

Have Tone and SCB finally been matched on Grindr?

Join us for next week’s episode of Malice in Victimland.

Is it too early for a thread title nomination??

 

[plinky]

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With fans like these, who needs enemies

 

[PinkyWinky]

I don’t see Olivier defining himself as anything and I quite like how he refuses to do that, it’s like he’s rejecting the idea he should. He’s just being who he is without anyone else’s labels. He seems like an interesting person.

 

[claudiarocks]

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Big Bro Tone … Is Just Alice On Loan !

 

[cssam]

There is a pill called Forza which seems to be some sort of plant based wonder drug.
I play close attention to MS stuff because my cousin has it so I’m always reading things that I see about treatments, causes etc.

Thanks for posting about this. I don't want to derail the thread so I won't go on about this but I have wondered if Bianca's on any treatment. It turns out that my friend is on the same treatment as her. Never heard of Forza but she has been on Tysabri for several years. She used to have an infusion (although I believe there is now an option of changing to subcutaneous injections in the UK) in hospital every 28 days. In my friend's case though, she has it every 6 weeks instead now though because she is high risk for one of the dangerous side effects that can come with it.

Before the pandemic, I would often go with her when she was having her infusions. They only take about an hour. It's a shame that the drug comes with one really big risk because it really has been a gamechanger for my friend and I'm guessing it probably has been for Bianca too. It's one of the top 3 highly effective treatments but I know that in the UK, the MS has to be pretty bad (number of lesions, several relapses in a year) before you're entitled to it. Although they are trying to make it possible for everyone to be entitled to it as soon as they're diagnosed.
My friend's doing well atm but I'm going to ask her about Forza when I see her tomorrow.

 

[welp]

I don’t see Olivier defining himself as anything and I quite like how he refuses to do that. He seems like an interesting person.

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yeah, he was WAAAAAAY too good for her.

 

[Treacletrixter]

Interesting posts from AlcoTone. What can we deduce from his sleepy ineptitude.

1. They are putting out the line that Alice has been forced off Twitter because of trolling and people twisting her words.
Translation : Alice is being trolled because she exposed herself on Twitter and in the DM in a way that made her an easy target. She is a veteran SM and should know there are lots of vicious trolls on Twitter. They attack for the sake of it and target people like Alice who have a well known reputation for taking the bait. Alice is wholly responsible from bringing this attention to herself, her children and a lot of other people.
People aren’t twisting her words they are unraveling her lies and misinformation.

2. The trolling campaign is being led by a “him”.
Translation: Alice has calculated (yes she is not a erratic as people think) that attacking a sick woman is a bad look. Hence the switch to it being Ioan behind the campaign. He has no social media presence, doesn’t use it and does not even have control of his fan site. This is just a huge lie to distract from the reality that Alice has created the toxic SM about her divorce and her children. She knew this would happen but didn’t care about the consequences. She wanted to show Ioan she could still get at him. Imo she is fulfilling the threats she used against him when they were married.
The negative attention and entirely predictable consequences of her speaking out are on Alice. She did this deliberately and knowingly.

3. Alice has left Twitter to focus on positivity and her mental health.
Translation: A lie, she told the world why she was leaving and it was because of legal issues. As per, she is trying to steal some of BW’s limelight following the video.
Without legal intervention Alice would be openly out there carrying on as before. She is in any case speaking through others and an obvious sock. They continue to engage with trolls, post in the DM comments and start proxy wars with Tattle.

4. Alice’s relationship and cheating on OP is different and complex
Translation: A very deliberate attempt to distract questions about Alice’s ethics. Because there can be no good way to describe her behaviour. She either knew he was gay which raises questions about what she was getting out of being with him. This is somewhat answered by her previous comments that it was an easy life he funded. Otherwise she is a straight out cheat and has no moral high ground.
She can’t own her behaviour because she would need to ask for forgiveness and then be willing to give it.

 

[Perplexity]

His partner looks like a bloke to me and is called Matthew - there doesn't need to be a big announcement to 'validate' it. Nobody expects heterosexual people to do that and it's not nice to hear people talking about our (lgbt) lives and relationships and families as if they are shameful things not to be said out loud, so I'm gonna talk about that when I see it happening.

I think I’ve said on here before, but I hope that soon “coming out” will be seen as a thing people did in ye olden days. I hope my kids don’t feel they need to “come out” to me, because no one should feel it’s something to confess. I talk about future relationships with the kids in terms of “you might have a girlfriend or a boyfriend/husband or wife” - obviously they might have neither/both/someone non-binary, but they’re quite small so I’m keeping things simple!

From what I’ve read, Olivier is fairly private about it all - although didn’t he refer to Alice as his ‘pink’ period and his current partner as his ‘blue’ period? I thought that was funny and elegant. I think I’m mostly proud of myself for getting the joke though!

Edit - Ah, @PinkyWinky has posted the actual quotes! Alice was during his blue period not the other way around

 

[brie l]

Somehow I don’t believe AlcaTone ever considered moving to France. It’s just to get a dig at Bear. He does realise he could literally drive to France and his dogs wouldn’t have to go on a plane at all

Ok so this about how dogs are treated on airlines is just not true. I worked for an airline and can hand on heart say the area reserved for live animals is definitely heated. If you turn up with an animal that you have not made prior arrangement for and it's the only animal in that flight, you will be rejected as it takes over over an hour for the hull to be heated. And during the flight the crew will go into the hull to spend time with and check on the animals. The standard practice is for animals not to be sedated as the heartbeat slows down.
Typical Alice, talking out of her arse AGAIN. Tone has zero idea about what utter bullshit he is saying. This actually makes me angry.

 

[TheNotoriousManzana]

I’m not sure if this one is Marjorie , but gives an idea . Basically the same but with a grubby white shirt on .

That one is Marjorie. The terrifyingness haunts my dreams!

 

[M33L4]

I’m feeling sorry for AE now with the cameo thing. The comment about paying friends to be there when Ioan collected his things and now none of the FM’s have even bought a cameo, she truly is alone. Even “Tone’s” support is self-serving. It’s either her pretending to be him, I now think they share the log in, or it’s him and he’s as batshit as she is. For what purpose I’ll never understand, the whole thing is buzzard.

Contrary to popular belief, I am human and on a human level she is utterly alone. It will be hard for her to adjust to the girls being with their dad and I think she’ll really struggle with her that given her reluctance to let them go.

All this talk of karma and actually seeing Alice get hers is interesting.

Thread title: I’d rather have Cameltoe than Cameo from mAlice.

 

[PinkyWinky]

Ok so this about how dogs are treated on airlines is just not true. I worked for an airline and can hand on heart say the area reserved for live animals is definitely heated. If you turn up with an animal that you have not made prior arrangement for and it's the only animal in that flight, you will be rejected as it takes over over an hour for the hull to be heated. And during the flight the crew will go into the hull to spend time with and check on the animals. The standard practice is for animals not to be sedated as the heartbeat slows down.
Typical Alice, talking out of her arse AGAIN. Tone has zero idea about what utter bullshit he is saying. This actually makes me angry.

Someone please give him the number of P&O Ferries Ffs. He could be living in a château in France by now, instead he’s stuck in Bristol. It’s only a half hour crossing.

ETA Where’s the French fan gone anyway? She never seems to pop up when you need her.

 

[welp]

She has at least 3 requests. She mentioned two and another one mentioned on IG after this that they just bought one.

she is hardly your pal if she takes money for this

 

[TheNotoriousManzana]

Ok so this about how dogs are treated on airlines is just not true. I worked for an airline and can hand on heart say the area reserved for live animals is definitely heated. If you turn up with an animal that you have not made prior arrangement for and it's the only animal in that flight, you will be rejected as it takes over over an hour for the hull to be heated. And during the flight the crew will go into the hull to spend time with and check on the animals. The standard practice is for animals not to be sedated as the heartbeat slows down.
Typical Alice, talking out of her arse AGAIN. Tone has zero idea about what utter bullshit he is saying. This actually makes me angry.

This is exactly right. I moved to Portugal with my cats, from the UK. Cost €€€ but you hire a company usually and they handle it all. Bianca will likely have also hired a company that specialises in this. Of course it's heated.

 

[DevonshirePixie]

Oh no hugh grant
He is so strange
I couldn’t watch him in that Guy Richie film, it was bloody dreadful. I don’t understand how he got so many women pregnant at the same time or why Liz H still wants to be mates

Omg, is he the one who keeps getting M33L4 up the duff? Her follicles keep popping as soon as Hugh keeps a knocking

 

[Caitlyn130]

Thread title: Alice’s Cameo is upstaged by a counterblow

(not saying BW's vid was intended as a counterblow, but AE will see it that way!)

 

[welp]

Wait, they were screwing behind OPs back for a year? Well, Alice, then shut up about infidelity. I really thought they hooked up, had a bit of a thing for a month, decided they wanna stay together. Not a whole year. This woman. It's now even possible that Ioan cheating on Alice with Bianca (if there even was cheating) lasted less time.

Ok, and now an uncomfortable thought. We were wondering what Ioan saw in Alice in the first place, and it makes me wonder if it was also the thrill of this? He was basicly banging Pablo Picasso's grandson's crazy chick. Good stuff for an altar boy from Cardiff. It's kinda like a masculinity booster, you know?

we actually dont know exactly how long. Ioan mentioned in may 2001 (that's 7 months before Alice broke up with OP) that he was in a relationship but early days yada yada. Back then when they came out with this relationship they claimed that they got closer while Alice was shooting Abduction Club with Matthew Rhys, which was 2001. But a few years back she claimed that in early 2000 they were already "friends" (after initially not liking each other while shooting 102 Dalmatians) and another time she claimed that she and Ioan had their first date at the end of 1999. Whenever people asked Alice on twitter when she and Ioan started their relationship she never gave an exact answer.

They talk a lot about Karma over there in her cult, but it seems like she got something of her own medicine.

 

[Perplexity]

My hate words are more niche. I HATE the use of 'impact' as a verb - it actually rouses me to anger; I shout at the TV/laptop 'use impinge! Affect! Impair! Not that!!!' Also nibble and sibling. Something about the sibilants in the latter makes the skin on my neck crawl horribly...

I’m also more random in my irrational word hates. I’m not a fan of colours “popping”. I’m also apparently not a fan of using confronting as an adjective, sorry BW. Loved the video otherwise, it was very powerful. But “it was the most confronting thing” made me silent scream. (Waiting for a tattler who actually understands grammar to tell me ‘that’s not an adjective!’)