Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #35 Vagina revokers and ego strokers, but his lawyer’s letters nearly broke her

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To all all my Aussie friends here, we just finished watching Danger Close ( for the umpteethn time, my husband was in the Australian army, did active service and he loves this movie). But it does make you feel patriotic and sad for the young men who go to war. And the song at the end is nearly (but not quite) as good as “ I still call Australia home” Maybe I just feel a bit melancholy because we can’t get to Australia for Christmas.

It was posted on here because he commented on one of her instagram rambles
I fixed it

The fact that I know remember this makes me feel I know too much about Alice’s life.
 
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I like how her minions are asking how he could think that a angel like her is harassing him. Leaving aside that the SM posts or her bothering family/friends/co-stars are already enough how can these weirdos assume that she is doing nothing in real life but at the same time they assume every BS about him? (one of them offered the braindead suggestion that he probably thinks its harassement to talk about the kids, I mean Alice thinks it's bullying to talk about the kids in a civil enviroment based on her reaction to the wizard thing a few months ago!)

How blind can you be?
 
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I’ve got to say, I love the whole Tone thing. I also love checking in with cockroach lady, she’s so weird. First she was Jane Eyre (mad ex-wife in the attic, house burns down), then Rebecca (nasty ex-wife gets murdered, house burns down)…and now she’s spoiled it by changing her name to a PornHub category 😂. There must be more novels with ex-wives and houses burning down!
PPP became TTT
She’s absolutely off the scale.
 
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To all all my Aussie friends here, we just finished watching Danger Close ( for the umpteethn time, my husband was in the Australian army, did active service and he loves this movie). But it does make you feel patriotic and sad for the young men who go to war. And the song at the end is nearly (but not quite) as good as “ I still call Australia home” Maybe I just feel a bit melancholy because we can’t get to Australia for Christmas.
I've never even heard of that movie 😳
 
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You see, if you're preaching kindness and good of the universe, and then comment on tit people do - and I quote - with "I will kill you" and "We should kill them", then you lost me completely. The context here, mind you, are trophy hunters, so I understand the anger and despair behind the proclamations, but you can't have kindness and actual murder in the same mindset. You're not nearly as kind as you think you are. You know, like our Alice. Hence, the ick.

Eh, Gruffudd, what have you gotten yourself into, again?





Done. Shocked Ioan fits my mode today. :D
I have a bit of an ick underway too because I get the feeling she’s itching to get more attention/media coverage but I could be wrong, the jury is still out.

i agree with her about poachers if she means in Africa though? I don’t think it reflects on her character. Poachers in Africa shoot people dead without giving it a second thought, they kill and maim animals for cash in unbelievably cruel and inhuman ways. Many won’t go down without a fight and several African countries have a shoot on sight policy they are so dangerous.

Its the helpless animals they target that deserve kindness not those sadistic b’strds. All regular elephant and lion hunting is distressing enough but poachers destroy whole herds and wipe out populations of endangered animals.
 
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I’m also confused by the criticisms of him using the legal route, lawyers letters are the only thing he has at his disposal until they’re in front of a judge. She’s openly admitted she won’t cooperate - he’s doing exactly the right thing. Courts don’t look favourably upon parents who have withheld the children for spite after a relationship breaks down
I can only imagine the distress of him going to that house to get them. Would that be better for them? They have been turned against him, by their mother. She is only thinking of herself.
This is exactly what Alice wants, there’s only so much tit she can throw and he remains quiet and goes through it legally. His lawyers will also be advising him what to do.

Notice it’s mostly just the FM’s commenting and liking her posts now, she’s lost that battle of shaming him on sm.
 
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I just needed to clarify a post on thread 34 that seemed to be misinterpreted. I was discussing how I thought AE's daughters frequently look "unkempt" in photos. This was not meant to be critical of the children but of how I believe AE puts no thought into how her girls look whatsoever. This woman is incapable of actually caring about anyone but herself. Or actually feels a sense of competition with them in IG's and the public eyes.
I totally understand your words , and have basically said the same myself several times
 
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Idk, sorry for this, it's just that every inch of what she says is dripping with deception, and she is completely aware of how this works. Even through bleeping language, she's exploiting her children.
Yup, She is very skilled at emotional manipulation and has absolutely no morals and qualms about doing it. Like Trump she knows she is lying, she doesn’t care and nor do her supporters. She just needs to tap into their bias, prejudices and anger. Tell them something they want to hear and that will solidify their already skewed opinions.

The mummy and daddy language, is just her playing the role of hurt child who needs to be saved. She is basically assuming the role her children should have in this. Their pain is elbowed out of the way to make room for mummy’s.

The victimhood is strong. Many people got lost in all her supposed and imagined life challenges. But she is a grown up privileged woman who is rich, educated and who has full time support from a housekeeper / nanny. Her only challenge in life has been that her marriage fell apart and her husband may have cheated on her. No mean thing but people deal with far worse in impoverished circumstances with no support.
 
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You’re asking for a starring role on her account at this rate Lol. It is interesting seeing inside the mind of madness I must admit.
She’s been leaving me alone recently. I find it pathetic more than tormenting. Also, my tits are damn fine 🤣
 
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I have a bit of an ick underway too because I get the feeling she’s itching to get more attention/media coverage but I could be wrong, the jury is still out.

i agree with her about poachers if she means in Africa though? I don’t think it reflects on her character. Poachers in Africa shoot people dead without giving it a second thought, they kill and maim animals for cash in unbelievably cruel and inhuman ways. Many won’t go down without a fight and several African countries have a shoot on sight policy they are so dangerous.

Its the helpless animals they target that deserve kindness not those sadistic b’strds. All regular elephant and lion hunting is distressing enough but poachers destroy whole herds and wipe out populations of endangered animals.
It's some stuff in Africa, sadistic teens in the UK, most of the older population of Faroe Islands etc. All should be killed and some she threatens to kill herself.
As said, I understand the anger about animal suffering, but the performative murder declaration is kinda not in line with the positive thinking thingie she bangs on and on about. Ick.
 
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Sadly I feel she now sees the children as her new "things to control main obsession by proxy" previously they were just extensions of her main obsession 😔have not seen any evidence of them being loved just for themselves without reference to how wonderful she is & how awful IG is I truly hate to say it but I think the minute they start making their own choices she'll turn her back on them.
Exactly this , she has previously mentioned and acted as though she was obsessed by IG now she’s basically saying the same about the girls 🤦🏽‍♀️
 
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I'm still catching up but does anyone notice (and are revolted by) the manipulation tactic of using her children's language and third-personing herself when describing their emotions? I'm probs being a dumb English major again and over-analyzing but...

Ex: "The girls never thought he would leave their mummy" or "The girls feel so sad for their mummy."

As opposed to: "The girls never thought he would leave me" or "The girls feel so sad for me."

"Their mummy," placing herself in the third-person, over-utilizes the children's language, and "their" specifically means she's emphasizing their devotion to her as their mother. The effect this has to followers is that they're reading this through the children's voice, rather than an adult's, which garners more sympathy.

Alice is Alice. She is recounting something her kids said that includes Alice, sure, but it's more appropriate to say "me," because this is an adult conversation with other adults. It's a very manipulative tactic that forces people to observe her statements not through her, but through the perspective of her children, and this witch knows it.

Also, somewhat similar thing when she uses "(their) daddy":

Ex: "The girls miss (their) daddy" or "They wish (their) daddy would come home."

As opposed to: "The girls miss him/Ioan" or "They wish he/Ioan would come home."

Again, this is a conversation between adults. But again, the former statements better echo a child's voice, therefore making it more intimate and heartbreaking to read. Alice can very easily (and should) tailor her statements to represent one adult talking to another, but she chooses to give her daughters that platform of being the ones to talk to Alice's audience. It's wrong.

Idk, sorry for this, it's just that every inch of what she says is dripping with deception, and she is completely aware of how this works. Even through bleeping language, she's exploiting her children.
This is so true, very calculated manipulation of language. It drives me up the wall but for many would tug on their heartstrings without them even realising it.
I realized today that I now have a big ick for Bianca, too.

I already found all the Secret and Laws of Attraction stuff childish. (We had a debate about that a million threads ago.)
All the "positive thinking" crap I find cheesy, but harmless. Still cheesy.
Her gushing in the comments to the party pics yesterday was cringeworthy.

And with that "she told him to leave me via a picture" crap Alice was on about, I went to check Bianca's Twitter, and oooooh boy.
Besides Secret and similar content, she was writing against animal cruelty last year. So far so good. But it's how she went about it that bugs me. You see, if you're preaching kindness and good of the universe, and then comment on tit people do - and I quote - with "I will kill you" and "We should kill them", then you lost me completely. The context here, mind you, are trophy hunters, so I understand the anger and despair behind the proclamations, but you can't have kindness and actual murder in the same mindset. You're not nearly as kind as you think you are. You know, like our Alice. Hence, the ick.

Eh, Gruffudd, what have you gotten yourself into, again?

(Still love the dog.)






Done. Shocked Ioan fits my mode today. :D
Woah, this is a very high standard to hold a person to. I don’t follow her Twitter at all but posting comments about self improvement and kindness can be a reminder to yourself, not a lecture to other people. I don’t agree that you’re not allowed to make self-motivational quotes if you have been anything less than absolutely squeaky clean and perfect in your past. I guess we don’t know much about her so people are thirsty to find out her true personality from Twitter, but it seems a bit out there to write her off as a person based on an angry comment about animal cruelty! She could be a total nightmare for all we know but SM is only a tiny snapshot of a person (usually. Unless you’re Alice).

If anyone analysed my Twitter likes they’d think I was an astrophysicist 😄
 
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I haven't read these threads for a while ( she's too nuts) but I think Ioan has been a complete coward. What's the point of getting his lawyer to send letter after letter that she ignores while posting the entire contents on Twitter? She has most likely alienated both children from him by now, while he hid away in France and now wanders round with Bianca in LA. If they are together for the long term, surely his first priority should be to get a custody arrangement where she had to hand the children over, earlier than this and then continue with the relationship? Obviously we only know what she says about them, but they are old enough to refuse to see him, but not old enough to understand that they have been alienated from him by their mother. So even if he brings a case for parental alienation and forces custody, he will have to deal with two sullen and resentful children who have been told that their dad doesnt care about them, and that his girlfriend has broken up their parents happy marriage. I hope he hasn't left it too late to repair his relationship with them. Girls need a decent father figure to help them navigate adult relationships. And they are basically being brought up by the nanny and a drunk pill addled mother.
I think the presence of lawyer's letters to Alice shows he is actively trying to resolve the situation to get partial or full custody of the girls. It isn't like he he washed his hands of them.

People always talk about how fathers or other relatives don't take matters into their own hands, but what would that mean practically? He can't go to the house, near Alice. Not safe. He wants to go with a third party and she's said she won't allow it. Imagine the scene and what damage it would to the girls for him to show up and how Alice would react. He can't physically take them away, they're eight and twelve, they no doubt wouldn't go willingly due to the amount of crap Alice has put in their heads. He isn't going to show up and remove them with force.

It's an absolute nightmare for them but I personally believe he's trying to do everything by the book to ensure custody gets sorted asap. In the meantime is he supposed to stay in his house so nobody sees him? Why isn't he allowed to walk outside or see friends? Should be abstain from parties (important for networking) until he gets custody sorted? What would that achieve? It takes time to sort out custody arrangements when one parent is actively withholding the children from the other parent. She has him over a barrel.

Sorry, I just find it frustrating when people can't see how things would work in reality. Alice wants the narrative to be that he hasn't bothered with them, while tweeting in the next moment that there's no way she'd allow the girls to go spend time with him. She says things like 'he hasn't seen his kids since May' while conveniently not mentioning that she won't allow it.

It reminds me of some comments I saw on a facebook post about a child who was abused and killed in the UK. Relatives had reported concerns to social services who investigated and didn't see any evidence of harm, which is truly heartbreaking. People commented saying 'if it was my niece/nephew I'd have been over there and saved them/taken them to safety, where were the family? How can they live with themselves?'

Aunts/Uncles/Grandparents have no legal right to remove a child from their parents, you can't simply show up at someone's home and take the child, that'd be kidnapping. There's nothing you can do other than refer to the authorities to step in, who actually have the legal ability to step in and act. Trying to show up and remove a child would have you arrested for kidnapping. The commenter made out like family just didn't care enough when in fact they made reports to the police and social services, which is all you CAN do in that situation.

Ioan has parental responsibility for the girls just like Alice but when they live with her, are refusing to go to him, she won't facilitate handover without him going to the house (and even then I don't think she'd allow it) which isn't a safe environment for him and would cause distressing scenes for the girls. What more can be do but resort to legal recourse and wait for a judge to mandate shared custody so he has the law on his side?

So much of what Alice has said has shown that Ioan was very likely to have been the victim of abuse. It's appalling to call him a coward, imo. She's also shared plenty of evidence that he's a loving, involved, caring father. I have no doubt he's doing everything he can to get custody of the girls in a safe and legal way, but he has a real job on his hands considering the bile Alice has been filling their heads with, and the fact that she wouldn't allow him his time with the girls over Facetime without interfering, leaning in, trying to involve herself. I didn't know who either of them were prior to this saga but from everything I've seen it really breaks my heart what the kids and him are going through.
 
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This is so true, very calculated manipulation of language. It drives me up the wall but for many would tug on their heartstrings without them even realising it.

Woah, this is a very high standard to hold a person to. I don’t follow her Twitter at all but posting comments about self improvement and kindness can be a reminder to yourself, not a lecture to other people. I don’t agree that you’re not allowed to make self-motivational quotes if you have been anything less than absolutely squeaky clean and perfect in your past. I guess we don’t know much about her so people are thirsty to find out her true personality from Twitter, but it seems a bit out there to write her off as a person based on an angry comment about animal cruelty! She could be a total nightmare for all we know but SM is only a tiny snapshot of a person (usually. Unless you’re Alice).

If anyone analysed my Twitter likes they’d think I was an astrophysicist 😄
I only use Twitter to complain about politics or when my train is late - I must look like a right bore 🤣

I think the presence of lawyer's letters to Alice shows he is actively trying to resolve the situation to get partial or full custody of the girls. It isn't like he he washed his hands of them.

People always talk about how fathers or other relatives don't take matters into their own hands, but what would that mean practically? He can't go to the house, near Alice. Not safe. He wants to go with a third party and she's said she won't allow it. Imagine the scene and what damage it would to the girls for him to show up and how Alice would react. He can't physically take them away, they're eight and twelve, they no doubt wouldn't go willingly due to the amount of crap Alice has put in their heads. He isn't going to show up and remove them with force.

It's an absolute nightmare for them but I personally believe he's trying to do everything by the book to ensure custody gets sorted asap. In the meantime is he supposed to stay in his house so nobody sees him? Why isn't he allowed to walk outside or see friends? Should be abstain from parties (important for networking) until he gets custody sorted? What would that achieve? It takes time to sort out custody arrangements when one parent is actively withholding the children from the other parent. She has him over a barrel.

Sorry, I just find it frustrating when people can't see how things would work in reality. Alice wants the narrative to be that he hasn't bothered with them, while tweeting in the next moment that there's no way she'd allow the girls to go spend time with him. She says things like 'he hasn't seen his kids since May' while conveniently not mentioning that she won't allow it.

It reminds me of some comments I saw on a facebook post about a child who was abused and killed in the UK. Relatives had reported concerns to social services who investigated and didn't see any evidence of harm, which is truly heartbreaking. People commented saying 'if it was my niece/nephew I'd have been over there and saved them/taken them to safety, where were the family? How can they live with themselves?'

Aunts/Uncles/Grandparents have no legal right to remove a child from their parents, you can't simply show up at someone's home and take the child, that'd be kidnapping. There's nothing you can do other than refer to the authorities to step in, who actually have the legal ability to step in and act. Trying to show up and remove a child would have you arrested for kidnapping. The commenter made out like family just didn't care enough when in fact they made reports to the police and social services, which is all you CAN do in that situation.

Ioan has parental responsibility for the girls just like Alice but when they live with her, are refusing to go to him, she won't facilitate handover without him going to the house (and even then I don't think she'd allow it) which isn't a safe environment for him and would cause distressing scenes for the girls. What more can be do but resort to legal recourse and wait for a judge to mandate shared custody so he has the law on his side?

So much of what Alice has said has shown that Ioan was very likely to have been the victim of abuse. It's appalling to call him a coward, imo. She's also shared plenty of evidence that he's a loving, involved, caring father. I have no doubt he's doing everything he can to get custody of the girls in a safe and legal way, but he has a real job on his hands considering the bile Alice has been filling their heads with, and the fact that she wouldn't allow him his time with the girls over Facetime without interfering, leaning in, trying to involve herself. I didn't know who either of them were prior to this saga but from everything I've seen it really breaks my heart what the kids and him are going through.
I love this comment and agreed 100% with everything you have said. Very well thought out and articulate
 
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I think the presence of lawyer's letters to Alice shows he is actively trying to resolve the situation to get partial or full custody of the girls. It isn't like he he washed his hands of them.

People always talk about how fathers or other relatives don't take matters into their own hands, but what would that mean practically? He can't go to the house, near Alice. Not safe. He wants to go with a third party and she's said she won't allow it. Imagine the scene and what damage it would to the girls for him to show up and how Alice would react. He can't physically take them away, they're eight and twelve, they no doubt wouldn't go willingly due to the amount of crap Alice has put in their heads. He isn't going to show up and remove them with force.

It's an absolute nightmare for them but I personally believe he's trying to do everything by the book to ensure custody gets sorted asap. In the meantime is he supposed to stay in his house so nobody sees him? Why isn't he allowed to walk outside or see friends? Should be abstain from parties (important for networking) until he gets custody sorted? What would that achieve? It takes time to sort out custody arrangements when one parent is actively withholding the children from the other parent. She has him over a barrel.

Sorry, I just find it frustrating when people can't see how things would work in reality. Alice wants the narrative to be that he hasn't bothered with them, while tweeting in the next moment that there's no way she'd allow the girls to go spend time with him. She says things like 'he hasn't seen his kids since May' while conveniently not mentioning that she won't allow it.

It reminds me of some comments I saw on a facebook post about a child who was abused and killed in the UK. Relatives had reported concerns to social services who investigated and didn't see any evidence of harm, which is truly heartbreaking. People commented saying 'if it was my niece/nephew I'd have been over there and saved them/taken them to safety, where were the family? How can they live with themselves?'

Aunts/Uncles/Grandparents have no legal right to remove a child from their parents, you can't simply show up at someone's home and take the child, that'd be kidnapping. There's nothing you can do other than refer to the authorities to step in, who actually have the legal ability to step in and act. Trying to show up and remove a child would have you arrested for kidnapping. The commenter made out like family just didn't care enough when in fact they made reports to the police and social services, which is all you CAN do in that situation.

Ioan has parental responsibility for the girls just like Alice but when they live with her, are refusing to go to him, she won't facilitate handover without him going to the house (and even then I don't think she'd allow it) which isn't a safe environment for him and would cause distressing scenes for the girls. What more can be do but resort to legal recourse and wait for a judge to mandate shared custody so he has the law on his side?

So much of what Alice has said has shown that Ioan was very likely to have been the victim of abuse. It's appalling to call him a coward, imo. She's also shared plenty of evidence that he's a loving, involved, caring father. I have no doubt he's doing everything he can to get custody of the girls in a safe and legal way, but he has a real job on his hands considering the bile Alice has been filling their heads with, and the fact that she wouldn't allow him his time with the girls over Facetime without interfering, leaning in, trying to involve herself. I didn't know who either of them were prior to this saga but from everything I've seen it really breaks my heart what the kids and him are going through.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Absolutely spot on
 
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I think the presence of lawyer's letters to Alice shows he is actively trying to resolve the situation to get partial or full custody of the girls. It isn't like he he washed his hands of them.

People always talk about how fathers or other relatives don't take matters into their own hands, but what would that mean practically? He can't go to the house, near Alice. Not safe. He wants to go with a third party and she's said she won't allow it. Imagine the scene and what damage it would to the girls for him to show up and how Alice would react. He can't physically take them away, they're eight and twelve, they no doubt wouldn't go willingly due to the amount of crap Alice has put in their heads. He isn't going to show up and remove them with force.

It's an absolute nightmare for them but I personally believe he's trying to do everything by the book to ensure custody gets sorted asap. In the meantime is he supposed to stay in his house so nobody sees him? Why isn't he allowed to walk outside or see friends? Should be abstain from parties (important for networking) until he gets custody sorted? What would that achieve? It takes time to sort out custody arrangements when one parent is actively withholding the children from the other parent. She has him over a barrel.

Sorry, I just find it frustrating when people can't see how things would work in reality. Alice wants the narrative to be that he hasn't bothered with them, while tweeting in the next moment that there's no way she'd allow the girls to go spend time with him. She says things like 'he hasn't seen his kids since May' while conveniently not mentioning that she won't allow it.

It reminds me of some comments I saw on a facebook post about a child who was abused and killed in the UK. Relatives had reported concerns to social services who investigated and didn't see any evidence of harm, which is truly heartbreaking. People commented saying 'if it was my niece/nephew I'd have been over there and saved them/taken them to safety, where were the family? How can they live with themselves?'

Aunts/Uncles/Grandparents have no legal right to remove a child from their parents, you can't simply show up at someone's home and take the child, that'd be kidnapping. There's nothing you can do other than refer to the authorities to step in, who actually have the legal ability to step in and act. Trying to show up and remove a child would have you arrested for kidnapping. The commenter made out like family just didn't care enough when in fact they made reports to the police and social services, which is all you CAN do in that situation.

Ioan has parental responsibility for the girls just like Alice but when they live with her, are refusing to go to him, she won't facilitate handover without him going to the house (and even then I don't think she'd allow it) which isn't a safe environment for him and would cause distressing scenes for the girls. What more can be do but resort to legal recourse and wait for a judge to mandate shared custody so he has the law on his side?

So much of what Alice has said has shown that Ioan was very likely to have been the victim of abuse. It's appalling to call him a coward, imo. She's also shared plenty of evidence that he's a loving, involved, caring father. I have no doubt he's doing everything he can to get custody of the girls in a safe and legal way, but he has a real job on his hands considering the bile Alice has been filling their heads with, and the fact that she wouldn't allow him his time with the girls over Facetime without interfering, leaning in, trying to involve herself. I didn't know who either of them were prior to this saga but from everything I've seen it really breaks my heart what the kids and him are going through.
I think what annoys me the most about all of this is that in my eyes she is just existing within the same four walls as the girls. She isn’t raising them really, she isn’t engaged with them, she isn’t dedicating anything to them. If she was wildly tweeting only on days they’re at school - whatever - but that isn’t the case. The weekends and evenings, even the holidays, when she ought to be engaged with them is not happening. Just because she’s physically within the same space as them does not mean she’s providing adequate care and supporters or opposition of Ioan don’t seem to realise this. I see him doing way more to cater for this girls needs from a distance to ensure that they are mentally and emotionally well because he understands how toxic this situation is.
 
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I think the presence of lawyer's letters to Alice shows he is actively trying to resolve the situation to get partial or full custody of the girls. It isn't like he he washed his hands of them.

People always talk about how fathers or other relatives don't take matters into their own hands, but what would that mean practically? He can't go to the house, near Alice. Not safe. He wants to go with a third party and she's said she won't allow it. Imagine the scene and what damage it would to the girls for him to show up and how Alice would react. He can't physically take them away, they're eight and twelve, they no doubt wouldn't go willingly due to the amount of crap Alice has put in their heads. He isn't going to show up and remove them with force.

It's an absolute nightmare for them but I personally believe he's trying to do everything by the book to ensure custody gets sorted asap. In the meantime is he supposed to stay in his house so nobody sees him? Why isn't he allowed to walk outside or see friends? Should be abstain from parties (important for networking) until he gets custody sorted? What would that achieve? It takes time to sort out custody arrangements when one parent is actively withholding the children from the other parent. She has him over a barrel.

Sorry, I just find it frustrating when people can't see how things would work in reality. Alice wants the narrative to be that he hasn't bothered with them, while tweeting in the next moment that there's no way she'd allow the girls to go spend time with him. She says things like 'he hasn't seen his kids since May' while conveniently not mentioning that she won't allow it.

It reminds me of some comments I saw on a facebook post about a child who was abused and killed in the UK. Relatives had reported concerns to social services who investigated and didn't see any evidence of harm, which is truly heartbreaking. People commented saying 'if it was my niece/nephew I'd have been over there and saved them/taken them to safety, where were the family? How can they live with themselves?'

Aunts/Uncles/Grandparents have no legal right to remove a child from their parents, you can't simply show up at someone's home and take the child, that'd be kidnapping. There's nothing you can do other than refer to the authorities to step in, who actually have the legal ability to step in and act. Trying to show up and remove a child would have you arrested for kidnapping. The commenter made out like family just didn't care enough when in fact they made reports to the police and social services, which is all you CAN do in that situation.

Ioan has parental responsibility for the girls just like Alice but when they live with her, are refusing to go to him, she won't facilitate handover without him going to the house (and even then I don't think she'd allow it) which isn't a safe environment for him and would cause distressing scenes for the girls. What more can be do but resort to legal recourse and wait for a judge to mandate shared custody so he has the law on his side?

So much of what Alice has said has shown that Ioan was very likely to have been the victim of abuse. It's appalling to call him a coward, imo. She's also shared plenty of evidence that he's a loving, involved, caring father. I have no doubt he's doing everything he can to get custody of the girls in a safe and legal way, but he has a real job on his hands considering the bile Alice has been filling their heads with, and the fact that she wouldn't allow him his time with the girls over Facetime without interfering, leaning in, trying to involve herself. I didn't know who either of them were prior to this saga but from everything I've seen it really breaks my heart what the kids and him are going through.
Can we bookmark this comment please?
I’m sure others have said it before, if the genders of the parents were reversed there would be uproar.
I agree Ioan is the victim of spousal abuse, it may have been physical too.
 
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