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Celia Walden is a nepo baby. Connected. Daddy was a journalist and an MP.
I think PM is such a hypocrite having Alice at his house. He gunned for Markle for being a narcissist, having nothing to do with her father, turning Harry against his family, constantly lying and changing her story, asking for privacy then spilling her guts. Alice is far worse than MM.
 
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I think PM is such a hypocrite having Alice at his house. He gunned for Markle for being a narcissist, having nothing to do with her father, turning Harry against his family, constantly lying and changing her story, asking for privacy then spilling her guts. Alice is far worse than MM.
based on him blocking her and what Alice said about him I doubt he has her at his house.

actually makes me think well of him that he isnt trying to forbid his wife anything.
 
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Piers had a horrendous divorce apparently. I suspect the last thing he wants is to be "around" that.

And this has got to be 100 times worse than his divorce was.

He's back in LA now so Celia will have an excuse not to see her!
 
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My partner died on the Monday, I was at work on Friday, didn't have a bleeping choice. I know someone that is 6 months after her partner passing. She is in no way over it but is going to have to go back to work. 3 YEARS I just can't even fathom HOW she has done nothing to improve her situation and support her girls. And thinks that she has had the most horrendous thing in the world happen to her. Unbelievable.
I'm sorry for your loss and your friends 🩷
She's done duck all, because she really does believe that she's entitled to not have to work and be a kept woman, that is how bleeping ignorant she is!
As we've all said about a million times, she will have to get somewhere cheaper, a two bed, and work. I'm pretty sure Judge J will point that out to her. She thought she was going to get enough from Ioan in spousal and child support to not have to work....yet she knew this wouldn't be the case, because of the prenup, and she spent like they had millions. I bet she never once looked at a bill, or checked what they actually had in an account.
I reckon Ioan was always trying to rein in her spending habits, thing is she continued to live like she did before they split.
Ioan downsized, so can she.
Again we've all said it, when couples divorce your lifestyle (every aspect of it) changes, she will have to get a job and she will have to move into somewhere smaller, get rid of Gloria too.
Her self entitlement is unbelievable 🤬
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I'm trying to figure out if the pleading poverty, homelessness and starvation is a tactic to shame Ioan into funding her lifestyle 100% or a way to provoke a reaction of removing the children to an environment where they will have shelter and food which she can then spend the rest of her life ranting about.

He clearly can't give her 20k per month as per her expected amount.
That post has played right into Ioans hands. It will show the Dr D, the GAL etc, that she isn't stable in terms of EVERYTHING! a home, a job, mentally etc etc. Plus it breaks the rule Judge J applied about not speaking to the kids about the situation.
If it is the truth and she's run out of money, or can't pay another 6 months rent upfront, for the current place or a new home, she has no one to blame but herself.
Those on her insta feeling sorry for her, need to read what she spends a month, but those commentors are as thick as tit and still belive after 3 years of proof, that she's the wronged party 🤦🏼‍♀️
 
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What I don’t understand is how Alice has said some pretty bad things about Piers and yet she is welcomed to his house. If a friend did this to my husband they wouldn’t be welcomed tbh.

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What I don’t understand is how Alice has said some pretty bad things about Piers and yet she is welcomed to his house. If a friend did this to my husband they wouldn’t be welcomed tbh.

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I completely agree with you.
I get that Piers shouldn't be telling his wife who she can see or not but surely as his wife you wouldn't want to associate with her.
 
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I think Celia is more likely keeping in touch with the girls than Alice. She's just an unpleasant side effect of this.
 
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Ioan has it too. It's understandable that he isnt doing such a job because he gets on well enough this way and when you earn 200k per year on a bad year 2k per month extra is just in this case not particulary worthy the investment of your whole days time.
Ioan is in a very different position from Alice. The money in the blocked account is his and he gets good residuals and the chance of a high paying job. She has none of those things and yet she still spends twice as much on rent as him and has a maid. In fact, as he shares the rent and bills with BW, she has far higher outgoings than he does - his rent is $1,750 vs her $6,500. He also has not been begging for money with a GFM or saying on SM that he will be starving and homeless soon. AE is not in a position to be sniffy about any job.

And she needn't worry about being looked down on as a celeb doing civilian work, as the vast majority of people have no idea who she is. :sneaky:
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Don't worry - we have the Thanksgiving Special to look forward to. What will it be his year?
The knob's fallen off my oven?
Peel your own potato?
There's Halloween first. Will she forget to order a costume in time again and then blame the mail? Maybe she will go trick or treating herself to get some food for the larder?
 
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Alice and Ioan were never going to be rich unless he lucked out with a huge block buster franchise. As an actor he is well paid but that income is unstable. By the time they married he should have had enough to keep the comfortable even through dry periods. What is obvious is that he couldn’t stop her spending and largesse. Had they invested, saved and economised there would have been enough to support them through a divorce.

Ioan‘s problem was that not only was Alice deadweight but she was a negative asset in the marriage. She didn’t earn and she didn’t parent. He had to work twice as hard whilst employing people to take care of the children, house and even Alice.

Her career earning must have been pathetic. At best she would be on about 2-3k per week and only working a few weeks every year. Her earnings from selling stories is probably better than her acting earnings.

NB. I side eye the supposed lavishness of her life with Oucassi. His wealth is family money and he was hustling for control around the time he was with her. Weren’t they living in his mothers apartment? I think he was connected and was wealthy but I’m dubious about how much trickled to Alice.
 
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I find her tendency to exaggerate (Alice caps) EVERYTHING, one of her most irritating characteristics. It’s not her worst trait by any means but it really infuriates me. She‘s either joyously, deliriously happy (and so are her daughters), or she’s in the depths of despair, sobbing, destitute, “suicidal” etc etc etc, but none of it appears genuine.

I can’t imagine how exhausting and annoying she must be in real life. Her thirst for attention is pathetic.

Reading her crap on here makes me want to slap her 😀
I find more infuriating that most times she claims that her kids have the exact same emotions.
 
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Alice and Ioan were never going to be rich unless he lucked out with a huge block buster franchise. As an actor he is well paid but that income is unstable. By the time they married he should have had enough to keep the comfortable even through dry periods. What is obvious is that he couldn’t stop her spending and largesse. Had they invested, saved and economised there would have been enough to support them through a divorce.

Ioan‘s problem was that not only was Alice deadweight but she was a negative asset in the marriage. She didn’t earn and she didn’t parent. He had to work twice as hard whilst employing people to take care of the children, house and even Alice.

Her career earning must have been pathetic. At best she would be on about 2-3k per week and only working a few weeks every year. Her earnings from selling stories is probably better than her acting earnings.

NB. I side eye the supposed lavishness of her life with Oucassi. His wealth is family money and he was hustling for control around the time he was with her. Weren’t they living in his mothers apartment? I think he was connected and was wealthy but I’m dubious about how much trickled to Alice.
At one point didn't she claim "the mortgage was almost paid off - I could cry!" - in fact virtually nothing of that mortgage was paid off. He paid 1.5million for the house, 750k was his cash he put in. The rest was mortgage. The mortgage was virtually the same when the house was sold.
Another Alice lie.
They were always living beyond their means - mostly because of Alice.
 
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I find more infuriating that most times she claims that her kids have the exact same emotions.
They are not allowed to think or feel differently from her. I came across a tiktok video on the Golden Child which says that they are at high risk of becoming narcs themselves. (Can't find it now)
 
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Nah I doubt it. That would only serve to alienate his kids further. I don’t doubt that they will get married down the line. But I imagine he’d want his girls to be ok first.
I wonder what kind of visa she is on, and how long for?
 
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What I don’t understand is how Alice has said some pretty bad things about Piers and yet she is welcomed to his house. If a friend did this to my husband they wouldn’t be welcomed tbh.

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Thing is, they dont follow her or read her. What (and Im speaking for myself here too) we all I think sometimes forget is how invested we are - yes, from gossiping point of view, but we are - and as the result we know probably much more than her friends even. We here share information of first hand and second hand narc abuse and behaviour experience. Like it was pointed out before, people who never experienced it usually dont quite believe such batshittery exists. Because there are a lot of us (and Tattle never sleeps as everybody spread around the globe) screenshots of her online crap get captured before she dirty deletes etc etc
For an average person, who are usually interested in their own life, would be pretty hard to come across these comments unless notice them accidentally
Im sure a lot of her acquaintances see her as perhaps eccentric, a bit loud but otherwise ok woman who took the divorce pretty badly.
not that I have very high opinion of Pierce or his wife, but Im pretty sure they are not even interested in details (Pierce seems to be only interested in himself anyway) and dont know about 80% of what she is up to. And I repeat I doubt they are aware of those comments or dont care either way.
 
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Thing is, they dont follow her or read her. What (and Im speaking for myself here too) we all I think sometimes forget is how invested we are - yes, from gossiping point of view, but we are - and as the result we know probably much more than her friends even. We here share information of first hand and second hand narc abuse and behaviour experience. Like it was pointed out before, people who never experienced it usually dont quite believe such batshittery exists. Because there are a lot of us (and Tattle never sleeps as everybody spread around the globe) screenshots of her online crap get captured before she dirty deletes etc etc
For an average person, who are usually interested in their own life, would be pretty hard to come across these comments unless notice them accidentally
Im sure a lot of her acquaintances see her as perhaps eccentric, a bit loud but otherwise ok woman who took the divorce pretty badly.
not that I have very high opinion of Pierce or his wife, but Im pretty sure they are not even interested in details (Pierce seems to be only interested in himself anyway) and dont know about 80% of what she is up to. And I repeat I doubt they are aware of those comments or dont care either way.
take Selma Blair for example. She was happily supporting Alice on her IG until somebody actively send her all the things Alice said about Bianca's MS.

many dont know the "real" Alice, they just know the lovebombing Alice.


Ioan is in a very different position from Alice. The money in the blocked account is his and he gets good residuals and the chance of a high paying job. She has none of those things and yet she still spends twice as much on rent as him and has a maid. In fact, as he shares the rent and bills with BW, she has far higher outgoings than he does - his rent is $1,750 vs her $6,500. He also has not been begging for money with a GFM or saying on SM that he will be starving and homeless soon. AE is not in a position to be sniffy about any job.

And she needn't worry about being looked down on as a celeb doing civilian work, as the vast majority of people have no idea who she is. :sneaky:
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There's Halloween first. Will she forget to order a costume in time again and then blame the mail? Maybe she will go trick or treating herself to get some food for the larder?
this was precisely my point
 
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The best paying job Alice could possibly get is selling her specialist skills to masochistic men who pay her to be verbally abused.

Other than that, it's Home Depot.
I know someone who did this as a job and it was very well paid. Flexible hours too. Just saying! 😏
 
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My partner died on the Monday, I was at work on Friday, didn't have a bleeping choice. I know someone that is 6 months after her partner passing. She is in no way over it but is going to have to go back to work. 3 YEARS I just can't even fathom HOW she has done nothing to improve her situation and support her girls. And thinks that she has had the most horrendous thing in the world happen to her. Unbelievable.
I’m so sorry for your loss, and also for your friend. My ex-husband virtually left me overnight on a Friday night, I woke up to find that he had gone and I was back at work on Tuesday morning having taken one day off (as a holiday day I might add) to see a solicitor. I can’t believe Alice hasn’t moved on one iota from 3 years ago. She doesn’t and hasn’t ever lived in the ‘real’ world, but boy oh boy is she hurtling towards a reality check soon.

ETA my ex and I had been having problems for a while and he in the end made the decision but the way he did it was awful. He’s very controlling and he did that in order to make a show of his actions. I guess my point in mentioning it is to say that people go through breakups all the time, but we heal and move on. 13 years later and we’ve managed to stay civil (a Herculean task at times because of the type of person he is) for the sake of our child. It can be done!
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I'm trying to figure out if the pleading poverty, homelessness and starvation is a tactic to shame Ioan into funding her lifestyle 100% or a way to provoke a reaction of removing the children to an environment where they will have shelter and food which she can then spend the rest of her life ranting about.

He clearly can't give her 20k per month as per her expected amount.
My thoughts are that she wasn’t getting enough attention from her sock accounts so ‘had’ to go real life to feed her need for this and her addiction to SM. Additionally B posting the birthday tribute, and them both attending a premiere I’m sure has had an impact on her, and her need to ‘fight back’ was too strong. I bet she’s also hoping that the woe is me poverty comments get back to Yo. However even if they have, I’m sure that Yo is way past giving a toss about her.
 
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