Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #207 The con was ruff, then she tried to drop the Gruff

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Jesus, why is always looking so loony lol (though the one where she has the gob opened looks actually decent)
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She actually has a really nice smile when she's showing her teeth/when her mouth is open, and it seems genuine. She looks lovely in the photo on the right.

I think a lot of the photos of her from the con look "off" because she's not smiling genuinely or she's trying to pose/pout in them.

I also don't think her botox brow lift is doing her any favours, as it's too harsh and unrealistic. At least I hope it's botox, and nothing permanent.
 
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but I thought there were no names available yesterday so she had to keep GRUFF under duress?
I did a quick search and that one and I think officialaliceevans was available or aliceevansofficial. There were a few, including someone's good suggestion in the last thread about alice.evans ... also likely available if she used a period and her middle name or initial.
 
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For the non 'talent' I need to emphasise that the 50k school fees for one kid for an actor needs to guarantee earn 150 to service . Then the second kid makes 300 to service - that's gross minus agent / manager / lawyer- fed / state taxes - average actor keeps 33 cents on the dollar - add on rent / mortgage / food / publicist / extra medical / curricular - that's minimum 500 k per year ioan was facing to have to produce . If he even scoped what that would look like - with the 2O% usa production based in Los Angeles - he'd be looking at having to leave his family 11/12 months a year to service . Pulling ella out of fancy schoool was his line in the sand . It was Alice saying I don't want you home . duck off and earn the cash . Ioan chose to lower his costs so he could chose - how far/ how long /how much .
Yep, Ioan's gross adjusted income (after commissions, but before taxes) the past years was:

2018: 266k
2019: 1m
2020: 482k
2021: 487k
2022: 52k
2023: 163k (I assume it will reach 200k)

no way that he could have afforded this school, especially with how much Alice has overlitigated the divorce (I quote: "Ioan wanted a quick divorce, I wasnt having it!") - it's telling that he didnt wanted to enroll her first place either
 
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Re: the new schools near her apt.

I suspect its her being sneaky to try to manipulate things so she can stay in BH. Hoping Ioan not wanting the optics or the upset of the girls changing schools yet again means she gets to stay in BH and play Hollywood Wives with Ioan footing the bill. I'm not sure if it will work, but she's that selfish and manipulative to try it.
Ioan cannot afford to pay Alice’s bills and rent, plus he has no obligation to provide her with a lifestyle neither can afford. If Alice wants to stay in BH’s fine, let her get a job and support herself.
 
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I am cannot afford to pay Alice’s bills and rent, plus he has no obligation to provide her with a lifestyle neither can afford. If Alice wants to stay in BH’s fine, let her get a job and support herself.
it's more she can weaponise it. "We must leave our lovely apartment in BH now because DADDY ISNT SUPPORTING US AT ALL. So HEARTBREAKING that my BAYBEEZ have to leave their LOVELY school again. yada yada yada" - Luckiley, the criminal charges scared her off enough to keep her gob shot in public (on her Socials; her socks, Tone, Loopy and dimwits minions are in the end just hot air and will not end up in newspapers), so it all is less effective publicly, but so long the kids have not the mental capacities to understand her tactics it will at least work still well for her alienation tactics.

In fact I'm sure this played a part in her insisting in enrolling Ella to Brentwood too (we know this was the case because the texts from spring 2021 made it obvious that Ioan wasnt thrilled to enroll her). It was a huge financial commitment that either would have forced Ioan to not divorce her or to become the bad guy when he inevitably pulled the plug.
 
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I know we make a joke about how Alice always seems to end up on the floor tits akimbo.

But in the edibles story Welp posted in the last thread, Alice says this:

"Anyway, long story short I put the tv on and put the kids to bed, my husband was on a plane on his way back from the East Coast and wouldn't be back until around 10pm. Close to 9pm I realize I’m watching The Rachel Maddow show with an alarming sense of attention - focusing on her mouth and the way the words come out of it. I convince myself I can ‘see’ the words forming in the air and being ‘puffed’ out of her mouth as she says them.

Next thing I know my 7 year old daughter is at my bedroom door in her nightie asking what all the noise is about and what I am doing on the floor. I realized I am in fact on the floor, tucked in with my duvet and pillow right next to the bed, but not actually on it. I laugh some more. My 7 year old laughs too, and asks me why I’m behaving so strangely."

TITS AKIMBOOOOOO!
Every time I read this story I feel disturbed. I have young children and I can't imagine getting out of mind on any substance (legal or illegal) when I al solely in charge of them.
 
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Jesus, why is always looking so loony lol (though the one where she has the gob opened looks actually decent)
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She would look quite pretty if she didn't open her gob like this! She has nice skin and pretty eyes but if she made an effort wirh the hair and kept her gob shut and smiled nicely it woyld be so much better..the clothes are another thing! Xx
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She would look quite pretty if she didn't open her gob like this! She has nice skin and pretty eyes but if she made an effort wirh the hair and kept her gob shut and smiled nicely it woyld be so much better..the clothes are another thing! Xx
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Good god..the bloody spelling! I promise I am not drunk!
 
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So...last year we had a discussion who Dafydd is since Alice was particulary enraged about him welcoming Bianca, especially after Alice asked him to help her winning Ioan back (I always thought it might be a uncle since Alice always talked a lot on twitter about his plumber uncle, but I doubt this now, they seem similar age)... @SusanC suggested back then that he could be a lawyer that....well, specializes in exactly what Ioan's custody case is about, especially if he does decide to move back to the UK.


Dafydd is a child care practitioner with extensive expertise in all areas of both private and public law.

The emphasis of his practice is in the field of children private law which covers a wide ambit from external and internal relocation to acrimonious private law children matters involving implacable hostility and parental alienation. His cases routinely feature expert psychiatric and/or psychological opinion and sometimes require a nuanced and sensitive approach. He has further expertise in cases involving substance misuse (both drug and alcohol) and mental health issues.

He is frequently briefed in cases of domestic violence and where emotional and psychological harm is present. He undertakes injunctive relief work, both Non – molestation and Occupation Order applications, pursuant to the Family Law Act 1996

He also specialises in the fields of jurisdiction and abduction in the High Court as well as public law. In the field of Public Law he usually represents either parents or Guardians. His cases involve complex medical issues (including NAHI & FFI) or cases involving allegations of serious sexual abuse.

But we werent sure since there are many Dafydd Griffiths and didnt further discuss it.

Well, now check the video of the bloke in the water (tagged as him too) that asks Ioan if he took a video of Bianca's fall...I think it's him lol.

It's interesting to say the least.
 
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So...last year we had a discussion who Dafydd is since Alice was particulary enraged about him welcoming Bianca, especially after Alice asked him to help her winning Ioan back (I always thought it might be a uncle since Alice always talked a lot on twitter about his plumber uncle, but I doubt this now, they seem similar age)... @SusanC suggested back then that he could be a lawyer that....well, specializes in exactly what Ioan's custody case is about, especially if he does decide to move back to the UK.


Dafydd is a child care practitioner with extensive expertise in all areas of both private and public law.

The emphasis of his practice is in the field of children private law which covers a wide ambit from external and internal relocation to acrimonious private law children matters involving implacable hostility and parental alienation. His cases routinely feature expert psychiatric and/or psychological opinion and sometimes require a nuanced and sensitive approach. He has further expertise in cases involving substance misuse (both drug and alcohol) and mental health issues.

He is frequently briefed in cases of domestic violence and where emotional and psychological harm is present. He undertakes injunctive relief work, both Non – molestation and Occupation Order applications, pursuant to the Family Law Act 1996

He also specialises in the fields of jurisdiction and abduction in the High Court as well as public law. In the field of Public Law he usually represents either parents or Guardians. His cases involve complex medical issues (including NAHI & FFI) or cases involving allegations of serious sexual abuse.

But we werent sure since there are many Dafydd Griffiths and didnt further discuss it.

Well, now check the video of the bloke in the water (tagged as him too) that asks Ioan if he took a video of Bianca's fall...I think it's him lol.

It's interesting to say the least.
Yes, having him in your corner would be amazing during these circumstances.

Those girls would have had such fun on that boat. I wonder if Ioan’s mum and dad are there too.
 
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QUOTE="seneca, post: 16466213, member: 373704"
For the non 'talent' I need to emphasise that the 50k school fees for one kid for an actor needs to guarantee earn 150 to service . Then the second kid makes 300 to service - that's gross minus agent / manager / lawyer- fed / state taxes - average actor keeps 33 cents on the dollar - add on rent / mortgage / food / publicist / extra medical / curricular - that's minimum 500 k per year ioan was facing to have to produce . If he even scoped what that would look like - with the 2O% usa production based in Los Angeles - he'd be looking at having to leave his family 11/12 months a year to service . Pulling ella out of fancy schoool was his line in the sand . It was Alice saying I don't want you home . duck off and earn the cash . Ioan chose to lower his costs so he could chose - how far/ how long /how much .
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I do believe the school fiasco was less about Ella and more about keeping Ioan tied to her financially. Think about it. Though the whole process she knew they couldn't afford it. The whole time! Talking about it, doing the tour, all of it. The icing on the cake was being able to use this ruse, which greatly upset Ella, to shame her dad publicly. I totally knew she wasn't serious when she started talking about getting a job. Oh, and then the line about going even if it was for just one year. Who does that? Makes their kid start a new school for one year, for no good reason? Of course, she's now doing the same with Elsie, changing schools knowing her lease will be up long before the semester is over. So bleeping cynical! Ioan either pays for a BH place for Alice or his daughter is screwed over...
 
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So...last year we had a discussion who Dafydd is since Alice was particulary enraged about him welcoming Bianca, especially after Alice asked him to help her winning Ioan back
How do we know Alice asked him to help win Ioan back? Did she post about it on Twitter?

Funny how she thinks she can ask another person to help make Ioan come back to her. She really doesn't think Ioan has any agency.

And why would a longtime friend help her instead of being in his friend's corner?
 
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So...last year we had a discussion who Dafydd is since Alice was particulary enraged about him welcoming Bianca, especially after Alice asked him to help her winning Ioan back (I always thought it might be a uncle since Alice always talked a lot on twitter about his plumber uncle, but I doubt this now, they seem similar age)... @SusanC suggested back then that he could be a lawyer that....well, specializes in exactly what Ioan's custody case is about, especially if he does decide to move back to the UK.


Dafydd is a child care practitioner with extensive expertise in all areas of both private and public law.

The emphasis of his practice is in the field of children private law which covers a wide ambit from external and internal relocation to acrimonious private law children matters involving implacable hostility and parental alienation. His cases routinely feature expert psychiatric and/or psychological opinion and sometimes require a nuanced and sensitive approach. He has further expertise in cases involving substance misuse (both drug and alcohol) and mental health issues.

He is frequently briefed in cases of domestic violence and where emotional and psychological harm is present. He undertakes injunctive relief work, both Non – molestation and Occupation Order applications, pursuant to the Family Law Act 1996

He also specialises in the fields of jurisdiction and abduction in the High Court as well as public law. In the field of Public Law he usually represents either parents or Guardians. His cases involve complex medical issues (including NAHI & FFI) or cases involving allegations of serious sexual abuse.

But we werent sure since there are many Dafydd Griffiths and didnt further discuss it.

Well, now check the video of the bloke in the water (tagged as him too) that asks Ioan if he took a video of Bianca's fall...I think it's him lol.

It's interesting to say the least.
Are you sure you can’t find my dad?? 😂
 
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QUOTE="seneca, post: 16466213, member: 373704"
For the non 'talent' I need to emphasise that the 50k school fees for one kid for an actor needs to guarantee earn 150 to service . Then the second kid makes 300 to service - that's gross minus agent / manager / lawyer- fed / state taxes - average actor keeps 33 cents on the dollar - add on rent / mortgage / food / publicist / extra medical / curricular - that's minimum 500 k per year ioan was facing to have to produce . If he even scoped what that would look like - with the 2O% usa production based in Los Angeles - he'd be looking at having to leave his family 11/12 months a year to service . Pulling ella out of fancy schoool was his line in the sand . It was Alice saying I don't want you home . duck off and earn the cash . Ioan chose to lower his costs so he could chose - how far/ how long /how much .
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I do believe the school fiasco was less about Ella and more about keeping Ioan tied to her financially. Think about it. Though the whole process she knew they couldn't afford it. The whole time! Talking about it, doing the tour, all of it. The icing on the cake was being able to use this ruse, which greatly upset Ella, to shame her dad publicly. I totally knew she wasn't serious when she started talking about getting a job. Oh, and then the line about going even if it was for just one year. Who does that? Makes their kid start a new school for one year, for no good reason? Of course, she's now doing the same with Elsie, changing schools knowing her lease will be up long before the semester is over. So bleeping cynical! Ioan either pays for a BH place for Alice or his daughter is screwed over...
Yep. It was obvious from those original messages from Alice to Ioan what she was up to and I noted at the time that line of even if it was just one year. What an odd thing to write! Why put you kid into an elite school only to drag them out after a year? Conclusion - Someone who was trying to financially tie their partner so they couldn’t afford to leave and rent somewhere else because if they did their child was going to be hurt and angry. Which is what happened of course.

I also don’t understand taking the little one out of her school either. Unless a child is being bullied or you have moved miles away. Why do that to your own child who will have made bonds there over their early years and it’s stability for them. It’s just another thing ‘you can thank your Father for that’ to throw at the kids so they think he is to blame for every change they have had to go through and Mother is the saviour!

There was a comment in the DM about how Alice has had to give up soo much. I thought what actually has she had to give up other than the old house? She’s still has Gloria, still on SM 24/7, still got a car and lives in BH. What has she had to give up? 🤷🏻‍♀️

Moo
 
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How do we know Alice asked him to help win Ioan back? Did she post about it on Twitter?

Funny how she thinks she can ask another person to help make Ioan come back to her. She really doesn't think Ioan has any agency.

And why would a longtime friend help her instead of being in his friend's corner?
yeah, she mentioned it around the time of Bianca reveal when somebody showed her that Bianca is following his brother Alun, Dafydd was in the screenshot too, and she immediately went full betrayal on him "knowing all along about Bianca" since she asked him for help etc and how cruel it is. Later that day she mentioned having contacted one of the betrayers too and that they said they had actually helped her and feel unfairly treated by her (something along those lines), no idea if this was him too but I assume so.

must be in my pdf. I might fetch it later if you cant find it
 
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Yep. It was obvious from those original messages from Alice to Ioan what she was up to and I noted at the time that line of even if it was just one year. What an odd thing to write! Why put you kid into an elite school only to drag them out after a year? Conclusion - Someone who was trying to financially tie their partner so they couldn’t afford to leave and rent somewhere else because if they did their child was going to be hurt and angry. Which is what happened of course.

I also don’t understand taking the little one out of her school either. Unless a child is being bullied or you have moved miles away. Why do that to your own child who will have made bonds there over their early years and it’s stability for them. It’s just another thing ‘you can thank your Father for that’ to throw at the kids so they think he is to blame for every change they have had to go through and Mother is the saviour!

There was a comment in the DM about how Alice has had to give up soo much. I thought what actually has she had to give up other than the old house? She’s still has Gloria, still on SM 24/7, still got a car and lives in BH. What has she had to give up? 🤷🏻‍♀️

Moo
This whole stunt just screams trauma bonding.
 
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So...last year we had a discussion who Dafydd is since Alice was particulary enraged about him welcoming Bianca, especially after Alice asked him to help her winning Ioan back (I always thought it might be a uncle since Alice always talked a lot on twitter about his plumber uncle, but I doubt this now, they seem similar age)... @SusanC suggested back then that he could be a lawyer that....well, specializes in exactly what Ioan's custody case is about, especially if he does decide to move back to the UK.


Dafydd is a child care practitioner with extensive expertise in all areas of both private and public law.

The emphasis of his practice is in the field of children private law which covers a wide ambit from external and internal relocation to acrimonious private law children matters involving implacable hostility and parental alienation. His cases routinely feature expert psychiatric and/or psychological opinion and sometimes require a nuanced and sensitive approach. He has further expertise in cases involving substance misuse (both drug and alcohol) and mental health issues.

He is frequently briefed in cases of domestic violence and where emotional and psychological harm is present. He undertakes injunctive relief work, both Non – molestation and Occupation Order applications, pursuant to the Family Law Act 1996

He also specialises in the fields of jurisdiction and abduction in the High Court as well as public law. In the field of Public Law he usually represents either parents or Guardians. His cases involve complex medical issues (including NAHI & FFI) or cases involving allegations of serious sexual abuse.

But we werent sure since there are many Dafydd Griffiths and didnt further discuss it.

Well, now check the video of the bloke in the water (tagged as him too) that asks Ioan if he took a video of Bianca's fall...I think it's him lol.

It's interesting to say the least.
I often wondered where the chaperone idea came from. It was interesting but clearly needed. I hope he’s getting all the advice he can get. Just a shame there doesn’t seem to be any enforcement of the DVRO that’s she’s breached a million times.
 
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