Sir SimpleTone and Sir LuPaper, Knights of the Order of the Goitre.
Sir SimpleTone and Sir LuPaper, Knights of the Order of the Goitre.That’s Sir SimpleTone of the Bristol bedsit if you don’t mind.
Also, in honour of BD it feels like we all need to change our avatars to IoanIn honor of Bifurcation Day (Big BD), I request that the Eagles "Already Gone" be added to the playlist. It seems very appropriate.
Ask and it shall be doneAlso, in honour of BD it feels like we all need to change our avatars to Ioan
Yes thank you so so much, greatly appreciated and if we need crowd funding for these docs count me inAlso wanted to add my thanks to @brie l and @sweetnessfollows for purchasing and sharing the court documents.
Haha yes I’m definitely changing my avatar that day.Also, in honour of BD it feels like we all need to change our avatars to Ioan
I think also on the surface it can look like middle aged woman has a handsome husband who has left her for a younger (by some margin) woman now she’s less attractive/child reared - classic infidelity/midlife crisis which is seen up and down the world. In a patriarchal society I can completely see why (in particular women, eg Mumsnet) people jump to the conclusion that Ioan is partially to blame for whatever is happening - in truth, he wasn’t separated long before getting with B (although I’d argue he knew the writing was on the wall for a while re: his marriage to Alice) and there are a lot of scorned women who have found themselves in similar situations.Unless you are steeped in the detail it’s easy to just say they are both to blame, stop making it public. It’s only when you deep dive you realise what is going on.
Yo isnt daft he's been clued in to their games on twitter. Yo and B would not be so daft as to have active socks that can be traced to their IP unlike daft feckin MAlice . She has no braincells at all daft bintThe MC account is deleted but the DD sock is still going.
IG: Since May 26 there have been a number of anonymous social media accounts set up on Twitter naming Bianca and myself "child abusers," and making incredibly slanderous and defamatory claims. Alice has slipped up a number of times on these accounts, making clear the "anonymous" accounts are her accounts. Ella and/or Alice have also been using Ella's own Twitter account. I sought and obtained the DVRO against Alice in part because she was using her social media accounts to continue to harass, threaten, and disturb the peace of both me and Bianca. Most of the accounts were public and I saw that Ella accessed many of them.
This is interesting. IG was able to recognise when Ella was using Alice's socks? I could mostly too.
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Honestly if you dig into the Betty story she’s not as much of a victim as you think, either. TV dramatisations have been very sympathetic to such a cold-blooded murderer.I think also on the surface it can look like middle aged woman has a handsome husband who has left her for a younger (by some margin) woman now she’s less attractive/child reared - classic infidelity/midlife crisis which is seen up and down the world. In a patriarchal society I can completely see why (in particular women, eg Mumsnet) people jump to the conclusion that Ioan is partially to blame for whatever is happening - in truth, he wasn’t separated long before getting with B (although I’d argue he knew the writing was on the wall for a while re: his marriage to Alice) and there are a lot of scorned women who have found themselves in similar situations.
The reality of the situation is far far different, and only takes a little bit of digging/reading to discover what the fundamental issue is at play here - it’s not Ioan, it’s not really Bianca - Alice was a mess long before Ioan even left, her behaviour volatile before and after the split, and more so since she discovered Ioan’s relationship. I always feel a bit uncomfortable (but understand it) with the comparisons to Betty B because her husband a) had an affair (legitimate) and b) was an absolute arsehole to her too - she genuinely sacrificed so much of her life to her family. The issue is Alice, pure and simple, and she’d been an issue for a long time before the split.
I think a lot of us probably jumped to similar conclusions in March 2021- I had a bit of sympathy for Alice initially, at least although I felt she was clearly unstable. Because neither of them are A list actors, people will pass over a headline and draw their own conclusions, and it’s usually when they discover Ioan has DVRO against Alice that they connect the dots. Incidentally in a lot of my article reading I don’t that often see the DVRO mentioned explicitly .
Both Ioan and Bianca were being tagged into the tweets, she was desperate to get their attention.Yo isnt daft he's been clued in to their games on twitter. Yo and B would not be so daft as to have active socks that can be traced to their IP unlike daft feckin MAlice . She has no braincells at all daft bint
Inside the article they even have a sentence: Deren Hund Bubba Bear sei getreten worden. (Their dog Bubba Bear had been kicked.)That sounds like dog-kicks. Is that referring to the childrens actions or is it a metaphor?
Wow, it has lips like Alice!
oh I definitely don’t think she’s a victim whatsoever, she was a cold blooded killer and was absolutely horrific to her children in pursuit of bringing down her ex husband.Honestly if you dig into the Betty story she’s not as much of a victim as you think, either. TV dramatisations have been very sympathetic to such a cold-blooded murderer.
Likely they want her "tapes".So what has Iris been subpoenaed for on 20 May 23? Where is she called to give evidence?
I think that Marie realised that she'd been tricked.She will claim the lawyer tricked her into it
In relation to what case or charge though? A judge has to order a subpoena don’t they, so there’s a case due to be heard (as at 20 May when it was served) could Marie have filed it?Likely they want her "tapes".
She's been recruited against her will to be part of Alice's documentary crew?
My children are adopted. I have never ever ever told them their biological parents didn’t love them. They made mistakes, yes. They made very bad decisions. We talk about those. But never have they heard from me or their dad that they weren’t loved.Finally caught up.
Thank you so much lovely Tattlers for obtaining and sharing the reports with all of us here.
As soon as I read mAlice had suggested the overnight, it all starts to become so much clearer
My daughters were older when my 1st marriage ended and all I recall saying about their father was "Dad loves you both so much, this has nothing to do with you 2, you have done nothing wrong, your Dad and I will always love you" and shutting myself in the shower and bawling my eyes out when it all got too much for me.
It was hard.
But infinitely easier than the route mAlice has chosen to take.
Why mAlice would chose to do this to her children (and herself) is just way beyond my understanding.
Poor Ioan and B - they have the patience of Saints and I wish them and the girls a happy and peaceful future.
But how that can happen with mAlice in the equation, I simply do not know
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