how is that hating you? Just clarifying that no one is saying in the filings she punted the dog across the room. There is a world of difference from a violent kick to pushing the dog away. Is she in the right? Absolutely not. But no one accused her of kicking Bear So let’s not escalate it.Sure, feel free to hate me
I am well aware she’s a child. She is a biddable victim. Stop lecturing. My point is that she looks too much like an adult to pull off what Alice wants. She will turn to the smaller child for the optics.Try to remember youre talking about a child - and one who has suffered years of abuse.
Just make sure you can’t be identified in any way - Malice is malicious and loves doxxing. Vague details are the way to go.I know Ioan and his family ‘irl’ and have since I was a kid (he’s older than me, met him in his late teens.) Last saw the family at a funeral in 2018. They never took to Alice for various reasons, unsure if I can say why on here.
You can explain the reasoning for behaviour without excusing it. She's nearly 14. Sorry - I don't agree with you. As for years of abuse, her father was in their lives as a regular presence until fairly recently. She didn't grow up being abused her entire life.Try to remember youre talking about a child - and one who has suffered years of abuse.
I'm sure it's ok to say, but don't mention names, locations or actual dates! It can't be any worse than what we're reading in these documents anyway.I know Ioan and his family ‘irl’ and have since I was a kid (he’s older than me, met him in his late teens.) Last saw the family at a funeral in 2018. They never took to Alice for various reasons, unsure if I can say why on here.
I would imagine the poor dog was targeted because it’s known how much he is thought of, and nothing is guaranteed to rile up and get a rise out of a caring owner than their pet being sworn at and foothandled, however gently. I mean many, many bonus points to them for not appearing to let it get to them.It says pushed away with her foot. Not violently kicking. I hate anyone writing off a literal CHILD who has been abused and controlled Far beyond what I’m sure we know.
Time is of the essence regarding Elsie. He needs to spend time with her without Ella along.All the focus seems to be on Ella. Elsie is also being coached to bring her father down. She is too young to carry out a plan so far but give it time and A will be shoving her centre stage.
A would have told them to disrespect/dislike/destroy anything that B and I have or cherish. The disparaging of the apartment, the curt dismissal of the dog, the wanton vandalism. Same modus operandi.I would imagine the poor dog was targeted because it’s known how much he is thought of, and nothing is guaranteed to rile up and get a rise out of a caring owner than their pet being sworn at and foothandled, however gently. I mean many, many bonus points to them for not appearing to let it get to them.
Yes, but how? It’s a conundrumTime is of the essence regarding Elsie. He needs to spend time with her without Ella along.
Not iMessage or WhatsApp’s or Snapchat’s no.
Aren't the girls on Ioan's phone plan? He can get a list of incoming/outgoing calls. Could he also get a rundown of text messages? That could prove insightful but I don't know whether that kind of information is stored by the service provider.
I'm not sure you can confidently say that Alice hasn't been emotionally abusing the children their whole lives though. Maybe not as extremely as in the last two years (especially as Gloria isn't present any more) but my guess is that the foundations were laid long ago for this. Ella may also have issues we have no idea about. Though we know a lot, we definitely don't know nearly everything.You can explain the reasoning for behaviour without excusing it. She's nearly 14. Sorry - I don't agree with you. As for years of abuse, her father was in their lives as a regular presence until fairly recently. She didn't grow up being abused her entire life.
There are plenty of examples kids the same age who are HIGHLY stressed who don't necessarily go along with what is being demanded of them. And kids from great homes/backgrounds who commit unspeakable crimes. I don't think being 14 is a pass.
I think we can all guess!I know Ioan and his family ‘irl’ and have since I was a kid (he’s older than me, met him in his late teens.) Last saw the family at a funeral in 2018. They never took to Alice for various reasons, unsure if I can say why on here.
Those twitter accounts were tweeting before they'd even filed a police report!!They left the apartment giggling.
Adrenaline can suppress the body's immediate response to pain. I'm not saying that's what happened, but it's possible that Ella was so amped up she didn't feel any pain.The fact that the qualified psychologist present says that Ella showed no sign of injury or distress but instead was laughing and giggling as she ran and attempted to evade Ioanlike it was one big gamewill hopefully carry a lot of weight with the judge.
But what would the consequences for Ella be had she not done what Alice demanded? Would Alice have sent her to bed with no food, taken her devices away, hit her? Threatened to send her to a care home? She's already been brainwashed by Alice to believe her dad didn't love her and has abandoned her. She only has her mother and her sister left, as Alice has kept them away from Ioan's family (and her side that she's in contact with aren't great).You can explain the reasoning for behaviour without excusing it. She's nearly 14. Sorry - I don't agree with you. As for years of abuse, her father was in their lives as a regular presence until fairly recently. She didn't grow up being abused her entire life.
There are plenty of examples of kids the same age who are HIGHLY stressed who don't necessarily go along with what is being demanded of them. And kids from great homes/backgrounds who commit unspeakable crimes. I don't think being 14 is a pass.
If you’re her step mum I’m totally here for it.I know Ioan and his family ‘irl’ and have since I was a kid (he’s older than me, met him in his late teens.) Last saw the family at a funeral in 2018. They never took to Alice for various reasons, unsure if I can say why on here.
Absolutely agree. People need to stop stating that piece of misinformation, kicked, as if fact on here. Bianca was trying to use the dog as a way to connect because the dog was there and happy. Ella was having no part of anything to do with Bianca and used her foot to push the dog away. Ioan nor Bianca used the term "shove" or "kick" the dog. It was never about the dog. It was because it was Bianca trying to connect through the dog. Was it nice? Was it appropriate? Hell, no. But she did not abuse or kick the dog.how is that hating you? Just clarifying that no one is saying in the filings she punted the dog across the room. There is a world of difference from a violent kick to pushing the dog away. Is she in the right? Absolutely not. But no one accused her of kicking Bear So let’s not escalate it.
And for his daughters. Their lying bitch of a “mother” has destroyed their peace, happiness, and their ability in the future to form close, loving, and safe relationships. Well done Abuser for destroying the childhood and lives of those girls. You do not deserve them, or to be referred to as their mother. You are Ella and Elsie’s Abuser, not their mother.Alice has done a total number on both those girls. This was all premeditated by that bitch. My heart breaks for him.
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