Yes they are crimes, but if you aren’t old enough for the law to deem you criminally responsible, that’s why I said flirting. Because I don’t know the age of criminal responsibility in California but I know she’s right on or near the line.
Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans#172 Alice Evans Always and Forever Con-ning
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Bianca is rising above (and like me she has so much to rise over that she’s on the ducking moon)
Anyone else notice how filthy this duvet cover is?
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Not quite.
California law presumes that youth under the age of 14 are not capable of committing a crime unless “at the time of committing the act charged against them, they knew its wrongfulness.” (Penal Code § 26; In re Gladys R.)
Pretty sure she knew what she was doing was wrong. 14 is not 4 years old and she has displayed a pattern of this kind of behaviour. Sorry. I give her no pass for the recent things she has done. And I say this as someone whose mother parentified me. Finally, at 13, I told her to stop. I didn’t want to know about the very adult things she was telling me and I refused to listen any further. Yes, it’s difficult. Yes, it’s unfair to the child. But people are not automatons and you CAN reach a point where you say enough is enough and refuse to go along with it any further.
Ohhh the first Bad Boys film is on Channel 4 tonight.
that's the thing tho: she probably doesnt know that hacking, thefting, blackmailing and false abuse accusations are wrong. Remember that she is Alice's pet project.
You are obviously right in general and I too give her no pass anymore (because at the end of the day even the most manipulated person must have a limit where they say "stop, im not doing this"), but I too have a problem to criminalize her. The problem is though when she is a few years older the law wont care about her upbringing.
It's 14 in California, although there is a qualifier 'California law presumes that youth under the age of 14 are not capable of committing a crime unless “at the time of committing the act charged against them, they knew its wrongfulness.”'
Life of Grime and Other Tales of TRO'S and WOES
She is VERY internet savvy. I don’t buy for a second that she doesn’t know that what she did to Ioan’s instagram account was wrong. Or stealing money from him. Ioan was a presence in the kid’s life for most of it and I find it hard to believe he wouldn’t have tried to instill some positive values in her. I mean … not stealing from others is pretty basic. You’re taught that in kindergarten - don’t take other’s things without permission. It’s such basic stuff that if she hasn’t even learned that is wrong … she’s a hopeless case.
Obtaining data records for phones, social media, email accounts isn't reserved for just high-profile criminal or civil cases. It's far more common than Alice might expect and there are plenty of e-discovery services to mine the data. Dumbass. She thinks she's the Puppet Master. But she's just a sad sack of meat making bunny-ears by the light of her iPhone.So they think just because its deleted, it gone forever
How many people are sharing that one brain cell now? It's gotta be about 10 at least!
I'm pretty sure that Ella carried out each and everyone of those offences with Alice's blessing.
The law will deem she's had a privileged upbringing.
I think this shows she is intelligent and insightful, but it also gives some insight into the sort of abuse and pressure these kids are under every single day to be Alice's puppets or lose her forever. Which may sound preferable to us but she is their mother and the prospect of losing her, especially now when they feel like they have lost their father, would be terrifying to them. I posted about trauma bonds between abused children and their abusive parent last year. I don't know how many people bothered to read the link, but given Ella's participation in her mothers campaign of abusing Ioan has seemingly stepped up, I hope more people who keep criticising her take the time to read this and get another perspective for why she might be acting the way she is. The reality is this isn't a black and white situation. We keep getting shocked by Alice's behaviour but keep forgetting that Ella in particular is living in this hell day in day out without even the respite of school anymore. She may very well be a narc in the making thanks to Alice, but her and Elsie are sadly Alice's biggest victims too.
Breaking the Trauma Bond Forged by Narcissistic Parents
Untangling the trauma bond that ties you to a narcissistic parent may be much harder than expected.
Well basically yes, but she has learned from Alice when somebody does you wrong anything is allowed. It's the mindset that made Alice think that her constant harrassement of Ioan was okay, because "he made me do it"
She's not the puppet master; she's not even the sock puppet master as we can see right through her immediately.
Yeah, none of that flies in my opinion, Ella knew all of it is wrong. She's 2 years away from getting a driving license, not in kindergarten.
It is bleeping filthy. Layered filth. Sedimentary filth.
Edited to add: Any actual court filings appear? Don't see any new filings. No? Nothing but the filthy duvet cover/LAPD handout? K.
Sorry he’s paying for my July wedding. No bonus for you this time.
I thought it was actually the floor until it was pointed out it’s a duvet. Yuck.
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