This is what Ioan will be scared of which will be why he will want reunification therapy first before he takes at least Ella. Ella is well taught by her mother so do as she told or else (abandonment)
Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #118 We stand with Ioan Gruffudd. We stand with Elsie & Ella.
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I love how they are all slagging off the Daily Mail on her posts yet she gave a bloody interview to them 
I wonder if this is where the plot was hatched that the girls would only see their Father at the former home.
It’s just utterly heartbreaking. I’m hopeful there will be a happy reconciliation with her daddy.
She deserves to be a child/young adult without all of the histrionics and drama her mother brings.
I find it fascinating that many people on here have dealt with a parent just like Alice, although I think she is an extreme example, and tell us time and time again that they did everything they could to appease them or comfort them.
This was pointed out to her and she said it was femail she sold it toI love how they are all slagging off the Daily Mail on her posts yet she gave a bloody interview to them
Her only source of income as well!!
Yes she says that the ‘tabs’ are with her.
This isn’t true. It was another paper who did this. I would delete this comment as he has took legal action against others who have accused him of this x
I need to look up PM—his name has arisen in MANY discussions we’ve had throughout these threads and almost every remark made about him was negative. I have no idea who he is (is he British btw?), so I need to do some research!
Ahh. That’s ok then. Glad we cleared that upThis was pointed out to her and she said it was femail she sold it to
Nice to see Bee's Instagram followers have increased 
Big E is very angry with Ioan and she’s grown up thinking it’s normal to demean and insult him. Alice instilled that in her and it seems she’s also irate that he didn’t choose her over Bianca - again like Alice.
The soda clip showed her behaving a lot like you’d expect Alice to go off (a tantrum), the emotional overreaction and yelling at him through pursed lips and all. It’s what she grew up with, her main role-model behaves the same.
Elsie seems a very different, in a different incident she was quietly filming the abuse playing out in front of her and then tried to change the subject to calm the room.
What they have in common is trying to navigate life with a drunken self absorbed mother. People talk about love bombing but Alice spews out all her bile the moment she feels rattled and we know how ugly that gets. That in itself might drive big E to want to live with Ioan but he would be getting an angry teen who learned her relationship behaviour from Alice and has no respect for him or his partner at all.
I believe Elsie is genuinely struggling with her environment, she seems very isolated and dependent on Alice for the little company she gets. She needs her dad and would probably benefit from a relationship with Bianca but is scared of the repercussions if she dares go there.
i think it’s understandable he is keen to move ahead quickly with Elsie’s custody but more cautious about Ella. Until she actually sees him as a father that deserves respect it would be very unwise to move forward with custody there. It would be chaos and everyone would suffer.
The soda clip showed her behaving a lot like you’d expect Alice to go off (a tantrum), the emotional overreaction and yelling at him through pursed lips and all. It’s what she grew up with, her main role-model behaves the same.
Elsie seems a very different, in a different incident she was quietly filming the abuse playing out in front of her and then tried to change the subject to calm the room.
What they have in common is trying to navigate life with a drunken self absorbed mother. People talk about love bombing but Alice spews out all her bile the moment she feels rattled and we know how ugly that gets. That in itself might drive big E to want to live with Ioan but he would be getting an angry teen who learned her relationship behaviour from Alice and has no respect for him or his partner at all.
I believe Elsie is genuinely struggling with her environment, she seems very isolated and dependent on Alice for the little company she gets. She needs her dad and would probably benefit from a relationship with Bianca but is scared of the repercussions if she dares go there.
i think it’s understandable he is keen to move ahead quickly with Elsie’s custody but more cautious about Ella. Until she actually sees him as a father that deserves respect it would be very unwise to move forward with custody there. It would be chaos and everyone would suffer.
She’s giving these an exclusive next …This was pointed out to her and she said it was femail she sold it to
And Ioan'sNice to see Bee's Instagram followers have increased
STOP I'm going to have to dip my braincells in battery acid to cleanse them if people keep referring to the flashing incidentThe thought of the honey monster flashing her arse at her own kids.
This said about her 8 and 12 year old.
This is very well put. We also need to remember that Ella is a pre-teen who according to her mother told her followers she is in full puberty (this was very wrong of her to do!). Her hormones are going to be all over the place and having to deal with a drunken, narcissistic, nasty, vile mother on a daily basis and potentially caring and shielding her little sister from what she can she won't know if she coming or going. All that plus normal teenage crap too and teen girls can be so horrible so she probably thinks she has no one to turn too. My heart breaks for her.
Every time I read about what she's put those girls (and Ioan) through it shocks me all over again. Evil, evil, evil. She loves nothing and nobody but herself.
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