BIB: If I start referring to them as Hansel & Gretel, here's why. Brilliant M33L4!!!How immature and entitled do you need to be to be this angry two years on? There isn’t a timing on grief, this isn’t what she’s displaying. She’s a spoiled brat having a tantrum because her meal ticket checked out.
CockSibling is hanging in there for any piece of the pie. A grotesque and gruesome Hansel and Gretel!
Honestly someone should have done something back then. The woman was clearly deranged. Not that I believe she would ever commit suicide (and Ioan knew that). But she should have been forced to see a psychiatrist somehow.Okay. If no one else has - I will because I was there.
There are certain political "cliques" that people run in on Twitter. Regular people, journalists, the funniest of the funny on the left.
Alice strove to be a part of that clique daily.
One tweeter is called The Hoarse Whisperer. Lots of followers. Another was a young black man named mith. Very political but also seemed very troubled and flirty. He didn't follow many people but lots followed mith. And his hot body pics. I was close with mith. mith was close with HW.
At some point, Alice had blocked HW. He must have come across that and blocked her back. No biggie. But Alice realized one night, HW had blocked her and she lost her damn mind.
mith tweeted yeah I told HW you're upset but he said you blocked him first and he could care less. BOOM.
Alice went nuts. mith was betraying her with their private conversations. HW was ruining her happy Twitter life! She was going to destroy him! She thought her and mith loved each other! Just batshit crazy stuff.
After about six hours of this, Alice is admittedly drunk and threatening s**cide. One of the big feminist accounts that was close with mith told her she was out of line.
Supposedly, Alice's people were trying to call Ioan in Australia. It was batshit crazy. And this wee one trying to throw fuel on the fireHonestly,this was the first night I ever heard of her. Many of the tweets still live in existence on Twitter by going to Hoarse Whisperer's account and searching Alice Evans.
I think I covered it. This should go in the Wiki but I don't know how!
Here's something I teach my children that Alice and supporters don't seem to understand. It's okay to feel angry. It's ok to BE angry. It is ok to channel that feeling into a productive and nonharming way to create change. It is NOT OK to use anger to bully, belittle, or intimidate. It is NOT OK to use that feeling to become abusive or destructive towards self or others. It is not okay to think you're some woman's rights activist by sending 100s of abusive emails, texts, and calls to a person, their family, their significant other. It's not okay to think you're a feminist by supporting that. You're just enabling an abusive person in their narcissistic delusion.Divorce takes people straight on an airplane to Planet Crazy. There’s nothing positive about the experience of being cheated on then divorced. It is a gut punch. The woman rarely emerges from this situation happy and healthy and financially comfortable.
No one voluntarily wants to board that flight, and take on that flight. Well, no one except the lawyers.
Her anger is her honesty. People are uncomfortable with other people emoting negative reactions. Don’t cry, calm down, hold your tongue, wait and see.
This is so true. I dedicated my life to my family and when you are no longer needed in the same way it’s a hard adjustment to make. Me and Mr Klopp are trying to find a new way of living as just a couple again and I’ve started meeting up with old friends. Nothing in life is a given and I get that Alice thought she would be married forever so this must have been a massive shock for her but she has to move on. I thought my family would be together forever but our son died in an road accident on Christmas Eve 2017 ripping all our hearts out. The self pity and bile Alice has makes me furious, yes her husband has left her but she still has so much to live for and if she hadn’t gone nuclear it could have all been sorted now. Ioan could have had the girls half the time giving her the chance to explore new things, reconnect with people, get back into acting (I will be fair to Alice she isn’t the first or last to make the terrible mistake of putting a man in the centre of her world then resenting him for exiting the allocated position.
Someone can only be idolised on the pedestal by you, you have a choice whether you elevate them to this level and whether it’s healthy or sustainable. I know from experience that there are 2 main reasons why people do this, its control and insecurity - you love them so smotheringly and intently that they will never want to leave you, but it’s a false sense of security. Humans will never belong to one another and have free will, if someone doesn’t want to be idolised or loved by you anymore, they can leave you. It is even more likely they will leave you if you smother and control them.
It’s a lot to live up to be the title of ‘centre of someone’s universe’ even kids. What a responsibility to place on someone’s head. I’ve had a hard time letting my kids go and be independent as I feel the pull towards them constantly but they don’t feel it towards me anymore, that realisation is a heartbreak in itself but my desire for them to be happy and free (even if it means without me) so I have had to find other things to enjoy in life to fill those gaps
How do you know he cheated? Alice isn’t a reliable narrator of anything. She lies and it’s in her own words. Anger as honesty is a childish response as an adult. We all feel anger but learn how to cope with it. If we all acted like Alice civilisation would have ceased months ago.Divorce takes people straight on an airplane to Planet Crazy. There’s nothing positive about the experience of being cheated on then divorced. It is a gut punch. The woman rarely emerges from this situation happy and healthy and financially comfortable.
No one voluntarily wants to board that flight, and take on that flight. Well, no one except the lawyers.
Her anger is her honesty. People are uncomfortable with other people emoting negative reactions. Don’t cry, calm down, hold your tongue, wait and see.
Great postHere's something I teach my children that Alice and supporters don't seem to understand. It's okay to feel angry. It's ok to BE angry. It is ok to channel that feeling into a productive and nonharming way to create change. It is NOT OK to use anger to bully, belittle, or intimidate. It is NOT OK to use that feeling to become abusive or destructive towards self or others. It is not okay to think you're some woman's rights activist by sending 100s of abusive emails, texts, and calls to a person, their family, their significant other. It's not okay to think you're a feminist by supporting that. You're just enabling an abusive person in their narcissistic delusion.
It's okay to feel angry. It's not okay to use that to justify abuse and bullying. My 3 year old gets that, which frankly makes me question the intellectual and emotional capabilities of A and followers.
Have you ever seen the movie "The War of the Roses"? It's all about anger in divorce. Here's part of the summary from Wikipedia:Divorce takes people straight on an airplane to Planet Crazy. There’s nothing positive about the experience of being cheated on then divorced. It is a gut punch. The woman rarely emerges from this situation happy and healthy and financially comfortable.
No one voluntarily wants to board that flight, and take on that flight. Well, no one except the lawyers.
Her anger is her honesty. People are uncomfortable with other people emoting negative reactions. Don’t cry, calm down, hold your tongue, wait and see.
Bloody hell I did back flips when my last one left lmao that’s why I’m selling up now .. I’m gonna downsize so they can’t come back ha haI will be fair to Alice she isn’t the first or last to make the terrible mistake of putting a man in the centre of her world then resenting him for exiting the allocated position.
Someone can only be idolised on the pedestal by you, you have a choice whether you elevate them to this level and whether it’s healthy or sustainable. I know from experience that there are 2 main reasons why people do this, its control and insecurity - you love them so smotheringly and intently that they will never want to leave you, but it’s a false sense of security. Humans will never belong to one another and have free will, if someone doesn’t want to be idolised or loved by you anymore, they can leave you. It is even more likely they will leave you if you smother and control them.
It’s a lot to live up to be the title of ‘centre of someone’s universe’ even kids. What a responsibility to place on someone’s head. I’ve had a hard time letting my kids go and be independent as I feel the pull towards them constantly but they don’t feel it towards me anymore, that realisation is a heartbreak in itself but my desire for them to be happy and free (even if it means without me) so I have had to find other things to enjoy in life to fill those gaps
I’m still new to these threads and am currently playing catch up. But this response was so beautifully crafted, well thought out, and designed to prompt thought. There was no ounce of criticism for the difference of opinion. What a lovely person you are RTP.First of all, thanks for your opinion.
How did he betray her, exactly? By exiting a marriage with a person who, based on TRO evidence, has severe impulsivity-based emotional regulation problems?
He “expected her to be quiet and roll over”?
Friend, he expected her to be civil.
Because civility is the gateway to a healthy, clean separation. If by silencing her you mean his repeated warnings being sent to her to cease her public harassment—of course. He is a man with a reputation, good character, and, most importantly, imo: feelings. He hasn’t publicly shunned her, and she owes him that courtesy.
Anger is a potential and common response to divorce. Anger needs an outlet—but that outlet should not ever, ever be abuse. Alice’s lack of capability to regulate her emotional responses should not be Ioan’s burden to front. Alice needs to learn boundaries, proper emotional channeling, empathy (which you can’t really learn), and mindfulness in upsetting situations.
Simply asking us, “Have you ever been cheated on?” doesn’t mean anything. A LOT of people in here have been cheated on. A lot of people in here have been berated, beaten, gaslit, and harassed, a LOT of beautiful people in this space have been dragged through hell…yet not a single soul in this space has reacted with abuse.
Also: silent women aren’t necessarily oppressed women. Your feminist perspective is skewed and troubling.
Lastly, I’ll say this, as I’ve said many times in this forum: age-consensual relationships are allowed. They’re permitted. They’re alright. Bianca’s beauty and youth, what you witness from the outside, are not her sole charms. You cannot claim that Ioan only chose her for such shallow reasons based on a worn-out trope. It isn’t fair.
Please don’t drag Bianca down with ageism, and please don’t assume that men in their 50’s aren’t capable of witnessing a beautiful soul as the beautiful soul it is. She truly is an awesome person. I know this from experience.
I’m hoping you’ll take my words and sit with them for a moment.
Read all 113 pages of the TRO (see Wiki). Do you respond like that? If so, you need to give your head a wobble.Divorce takes people straight on an airplane to Planet Crazy. There’s nothing positive about the experience of being cheated on then divorced. It is a gut punch. The woman rarely emerges from this situation happy and healthy and financially comfortable.
No one voluntarily wants to board that flight, and take on that flight. Well, no one except the lawyers.
Her anger is her honesty. People are uncomfortable with other people emoting negative reactions. Don’t cry, calm down, hold your tongue, wait and see.
As much as a fruitcake as she is, Ioan left her for a woman half her age.You know I think Ioan would have stayed on friendly terms with her if she wasn’t a complete fruitcake. He probably would have been fond of her, they had a long history together. Instead she has now made him the enemy.
Sometimes I read things folks post here and I have to sit back... Absolutely golden. I'm completely stealing this and quoting it word for word to the older kids in the packYour anger is a reaction that belongs to you and you are responsible for how you choose to control it. If you choose not to control it, there will be a consequence
??? I genuinely don't understand what Bianca's age has to do with anything.As much as a fruitcake as she is, Ioan left her for a woman half her age.
I think I will miss mine terribly! It’s just been us for so long, I am already sharing them with their partners and I am also excited for them but not sure what I will do. I can’t afford to stay in my house once they leave so I need to planBloody hell I did back flips when my last one left lmao that’s why I’m selling up now .. I’m gonna downsize so they can’t come back ha ha
don’t get me wrong I love them to pieces … I’ve had em that long now they’re like part of the family
It has nothing to do with anything other than the humiliation of the stereotypical being “traded in” for a younger woman.??? I genuinely don't understand what Bianca's age has to do with anything.
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