Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #108 Alice Evans - penniless and down to her last $20,000 Bulgari Watch

[claudiarocks]

Bianca liked those two posts
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it must be very tempting to reply, the user in the following one likely meant Alice
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anyway, more cute stuff
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for me personally I don’t like that people are asking her to comment on IG and the kids just get an icky feeling about it
She handled it great but not nice I don’t think

 

[tropeonarope]

Just want to say that my support for Ioan doesn’t depend on him having contact with the children.

He was abused. Then Alice has waged a campaign of full-blown parental alienation, which is further abuse.

As others have said perhaps the best and safest thing he could do for himself and for them was to step back.

I’m still on his side. His relationship to his children is none of my business.

 

[welp]

well, if Ioan abused and treated her terribly like she claims selling the watch should be fairly easy emotionally

 

[Snotbuster]

Why would she put her hand there if she wasn’t?
Hmm

But of course...there could be no other sensible reason aside from not knowing where else to put the damn thing. I usually have a floating hand that needs occupation when I'm being photographed because awkwardness. However, under the law of tabloids, since she is a woman under 60 years old, if her hand is anywhere near her abdomen, she must be pregnant.

 

[Jvuddie]

That comment did piss me off but I’m gonna assume you’ve read all the threads and wiki … cause AE is a cnut

I've following this thread for ages and recognise a lot of great ppl here from the amber johnny trial thread .

Haven't commented yet as while I absolutely detest Alice - detest isn't the word actually, I pity her. She is tragic. And needs a lot of mental health help - I'm also not a huge Bianca fan and don't want to get my head bitten off (it's not that she seems awful like Alice, it just a personality thing, her insta is so saccharine it makes me inwardly puke a bit and i also didn't think giving her,a complete unknown, a film to suddenly star in at the height of all this kicking off was the best pr move for them at the time).

Saying all that - irrespective of my personal thoughts - she and ioan are absolutely victims of this psycho at this point and, even if I might not be anyone involved biggest fan I can absoluty see that and I am also aware I only have Mad Alice's side of the story at the moment.
So hopefully you don't mind me hanging about here! I'm still anti - alice, don't worry!

 

[KikiFromNy]

Spoiler: merail & rant. long.

I had to step away y/day as this evil bitch is doing my head in on so many levels. Her GFM has triggered me a lot.

There is a point to this. I am reliant on UC (benefits) as my small private pension doesn't come close to covering my rent (sheltered housing flat)& I'm not eligible for state pension for a few more years which will be minimal anyway so I'll then need to apply for different benefits to cover the rent because of certain long term circumstances in my life (not going into it) let's just say the well known phrase "no good deed goes unpunished" is sadly true. It cost me everything, incl' my sanity as I had a MH breakdown, was suicidal & in a black hole for a long time. Don't get me wrong, I'm very grateful for the £££ as I would still be *homeless otherwise. (*separate event years later) But like many others I'm reliant on a cold Gov't machine that doesn't see us as human beings. We are at their mercy & this was demonstrated to me last year mid Dec when they made a cock up, couldn't be bothered to either ring me & double check or ask me on my UC journal or God forbid check their damn records, they just cut my £ off with no warning. I had just £5 to my name. I was stressed out of my mind, their only response was to give me the number of the nearest food bank while they looked into it which took until the start of the NY when they re-paid me. A dear friend (bless her) had to lend me £££ just so I could survive December.

I have cut back on so much, my only 'luxury' (vice) are cigs of which I make my own as it's 3 x cheaper, I don't get food shopping every week, can't afford it, every food shop is spent checking receipts & adding up what items I can or can't afford & like everyone else in the UK there's huge increases in the cost of food, electricity, gas & petrol. I'm all electric & stopped driving years ago but my electric bill has tripled & every month I am juggling & struggling as there is always some extra unexpected expense & I'm sick of living like this. I worked hard to clear the remaining personal bits from a storage unit (needed when I was made homeless) so this month I would have an extra £78 which to me is a LOT of £. That's been swallowed up by my electricity charges with some more added on top. I've switched all my bills to DD, done so much to try & help myself but I'm still struggling & juggling every fucking month.

And no I don't want to stop smoking. I've smoked for over 40 years, its my only 'luxury' & due to Diabetes t2 I have an enormous amount of weight to lose & that is difficult & stressful enough. The weight piled on after a lot of health issues. I can't work due to other health issues, incl' fatigue.
I live a fair distance from any shops so if I need an an ATM, the PO, etc I have to pay out for a cab. I get home delivery for food but often can't afford the £30 minimum so I go without & make do. I rarely go out. I'm not a materialistic person but like most people there are things I would like to get but I can't afford to. I would like to be able to afford to use a collect & deliver laundry service but that's out the question. We're not allowed washing machines & have to use the small laundry & we get one or two time slots per week (if other residents don't nick them - don't get me started on that!) & a machine for anyone to use which of course is very popular!
I'm on the first floor so to do my laundry it means either a walk to the lift carrying it all or 6 trips down & up a flight of stairs. Down - put in washing hour cycle. Back up to flat. Down-remove & transfer to drier. Back up. Down to collect then back up & more often than not I am too tired & in too much pain with my back to do it so it builds up. I can't walk far (or stand) without bad back pain due to the return of kidney stones & I'm currently waiting for my 3rd Op in 3 years. I only had the last lot removed end of Sept. I'm not looking for sympathy, there's loads more people a lot worse off than me & many have kids to feed & I have single friends like me who are also struggling. I had to borrow more £ from a friend last month & God knows when I can pay her back & while she says it's not a problem it makes me feel so goddamn worthless & ashamed. I never thought in a million years this is how the last chapter of my life would be. I had waited so long just to finally get a life of my own.
But the point of this merail comes back to Alice.

A lazy entitled greedy lying malicious mother fucking Narc bitch setting up a GFM as a way to shame Ioan, to piss on his MC appearance, to make him look like the worst father going & it's working & it makes me want to SCREAM. She's spent years living a life of privilege, sitting on her arse in a $2 million house with a pool, nanny, food services, cosmetic procedures (like her revolting lip fillers) constant take outs, Ella in a top school, a car & God knows how many bottles of booze a week, designer clothes, jewellery & ALL of it paid for by Ioan & all she can do is fake poverty as a way of getting back at him. HOW FUCKING DARE SHE? What kind of world even allows an abuser with a fucking TRO to get away with shit like this?

She has two beautiful girls who she wouldn't even have but for Ioan. Yet she's causing them & Ioan so much trauma just because of her pathetic ego, the Narcissistic injury of losing control of her victim who she abused for YEARS & is still being allowed to abuse. She's a fucking disgrace.
The depths of my loathing, contempt & disgust for this vile bitch runs very fucking deep. I wouldn't cross the road to piss on her if she was on fire.

I can relate to @tropeonarope when she said about even feeling anger to those offering her a kind word because I am the same.
She doesn't deserve people feeling sorry for her or feeling sympathy or offering well meaning advice.
This is Alice FFS & we've all seen what she thinks of well meaning advice!
But she's still getting it, still getting support, still getting people taking her word as gospel & spewing bile at Ioan because of her LIES.
She deserves NOTHING. Or at least nothing that is good. And I say that as a compassionate empathetic person by nature but I have none for Alice.

This is someone whose recent reply to a poor woman with terminal cancer was to immediately turn it back to herself & how women who have been blind sided are more likely to develop cancer & how ill she feels & she must see a Doctor.
THIS is who people are feeling sorry for.
THIS is who people want to help & feel sympathy for.
THIS is who people feel sad for.
What part of what they see don't they understand? She has shown who she is over & over & over again. I just don't get it.
This is not a woman who wants advice. She sees nothing wrong with her behaviour.
This is not a woman who will wake up one morning, have an epiphany about what an absolute vile cunt she is, feel genuine remorse & want to make amends. She knows exactly what she is doing but she doesn't care! Alice only cares about Alice.
This is not a woman who will embrace serious psychiatric help, open herself up to genuine painful soul searching & self reflection & then put in the daily work let alone years of work needed just to try & manage her NPD. Anyone who thinks she would is fucking dreaming.
She could manage a display of effort if she thought it would get her something she wanted but it wouldn't be genuine. The only genuine things about her are her rage, hate, maliciousness, her lying & thirst for revenge.
Her alcoholism is a separate matter & doesn't change her basic nature which is bad to the bone.
She's a hollow shell of a human being. She doesn't even know what love really feels like because she's incapable of it.
People are just possessions to her to be used then discarded if they don't continue to support her which for Alice means blow smoke up her arse, tell her how wonderful she is & what an amazing mother she is, etc.

If her GFM is allowed to remain & if she is allowed to have the $$$ from it then I truly despair. I am sick of seeing her get away with her continued abuse of Ioan & her PA of the girls which is also abuse. I am sick of her never facing any real consequences for her behaviour.
She is truly a waste of oxygen as she brings nothing good or positive to this world. I've said it before, she's a human wrecking ball who leaves pain in her wake & she knows it but she doesn't care. She thrives on it. Those people still feeling sorry for her are enablers, abuse apologists.
Shame on them & most of all shame on Alice but that's something else she doesn't feel. I hope one day she rots in the hell of her own making.

"When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time." - Maya Angelou.

This has me in tears. I have had to be on benefits for years for injuries that have nothing to do with fibro, depression or cancer.

I live in New York State which is the best state at housing help, food help and medical assistance. I wish you were here.

I am surrounded by friends and family and am extremely lucky that even though my cash flow is low - I am blessed with everything I need.

I hate the "smoking" or "junk food" judging. People don't realize that when we get to this point our nerves are shattered and we need some comfort.

And this is why her GFM is also particularly infuriating to me.

Alice has no idea what real deprivation is. NONE.

At this point, I want to see her homeless and begging on the street. Especially after reading this.

Though none of us know each other in real life, I you and appreciate your posts so very much. All my prayers this gets better.

 

[mrsdewinter]

Iam new to this thread after seeing Alice meltdown on Instagram... I don't know too much about the whole situation.. Except I don't get the bianca love here?? I mean yeah Alice is looking like a total narc but bianca is still the other woman.. And something in me can never ever love the other woman!

Has ioan tried to see his kids in the last Yr? Has he even been in the same city? Some fathers do just give up on the kids after divorce.. Its actually quite common.. Especially if there is another woman involved. I tni k it's definitely possible hedoesnt really want any custody at all.
I mean what does Alice actually want out of this? Surely ioan not seeing the kids is best case for her? Why does she want to shame him into seeing them? I feel like she would explode if he did actually see them!

Also is it possible that bianca might have a baby herself? Would Alice spontaneously combust if that happened?

I'm not a huge Ioan fan (though obviously on his side in this whole saga) and I too sometimes find the Bianca adoration here a little intense, but she wasn't really 'the other woman'. They didn't get together until after he left Alice, and I don't think anybody has any evidence to the contrary.

Unfortunately for Ioan, leaving Alice was always going to mean a messy, nasty divorce and custody battle, but Alice is a very malevolent woman and their marriage clearly wasn't that happy, so he was absolutely right to leave. It's a shame that the girls have to suffer.

 

[AsYouLikeIt]

re: texts: Elsie is 8 years old and she struggles in school. The likehood that beyond a "hello daddy" she texts him are rather slim (not because she couldnt but because of effort). Calling or voice mail would be more logical but then it would be revealed that its Alice behind it.

Ella is different, but we already know from Alice that Ioan accussed her of writing abusive messages, and the IG hack indicated as much.

I get the feeling Ella is angry with both her parents, despite what Alice says. I bet she is giving Alice (much deserved) Hell at home. Alice will never admit to that though.

 

[plinky2]

what he did to you...leaving you with a generous 300k/year im child support offer for a settlement
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but its only the financial stuff she rants about? RIGHT?

Let’s look at how he pushed her

- I don’t love you anymore
- I am moving out
- Please stop tweeting private info
- I’m having our child as agreed today (she changed the times, demanded he bring her back)
- E can’t come to the phone as she’s wet out of the pool (she threatened to call the police)
- He made their kids say please and thank you
- He doesn’t like the kids speaking rudely to him
- He asked her to use the Wizard to communicate

 

[BigBonedBuzzard]

I'm not really a huge fan of Bianca (for other reasons I've mentioned before) but I find "never support the other woman" a bit too finite. Ioan was being abused by the first woman, so I won't blame him to find hapiness elsewhere. It's not like he had a happy marriage and a sidepeace for 10 years. And Bianca owes or owed Alice nothing.

 

[RatOVan]

I absolutely hate that she's pushing the narrative that she is doing this for all women who didn't make a fuss aka go bloody nuts, no Alice you are not championing women's cause you are actually damaging it, the women I most admire are those whose marriages have broken down but for the sake of their children they have a good reasonable relationship with their fathers, those women are amazing. It's fine to hate the person but for your kids be reasonable.
She's told so many lies she doesn't know what is truth and what isn't and what she's said. It's a total cluster fuck of her own making there's no need to blame anyone else she's done this all to herself.

 

[Howdy]

Do none of her fans ever stop to think how unusual it is for a man to leave his wife and choose to never talk directly to her again (other than the Wizard app thing) even with kids involved? That isn't actually the easiest thing to do in 'normal circumstances'. Does that not ring any alarm bells, why he would do that? It isn't normal and that's because he was running away out of fear. He left with the clothes on his back and was too scarred and scared to speak to her after that. I know we all know this but it's infuriating her fawners don't question anything.

 

[SusanC]

From the article:

His girlfriend looked effortlessly glamorous in a green strapped gown with side cut-outs that showcased her ample assets.

She let her vibrant outfit do all the talking as she simply accessorised the stunning look with a silver bangle and a dainty pendant necklace.

The actress accentuated her natural good looks with a touch of glittering eyeshadow and a slick of mascara.

Bianca styled her chocolate locks in glamorous waves and posed with her arm wrapped around Ioan as they appeared to be as loved-up as ever.

The DM is calling it a " domestic violence restraining order (DVRO)" outright and saying Ioan had it extended, rather than bothering with TRO vs PRO. That, combined with their sudden use of "Miss Evans" makes me think a lawyer's letter has gone to them as well as Alice.

 

[welp]

tell me you are a Narc without telling me you are a Narc

 

[BingoFlamingo]

It’s ok not to love Bianca btw. I think she’s a good influence on him and they are clearly happy and for now that’s all good.

 

[Zippysays]

In the first year of the lockdown I had to sell my late father's wedding ring, and some of my late mother's jewelry. It was a last resort, I had no money, It was a heartbreaking thing to do. I'd love to still have these items, I can't even say anymore about this, it is too upsetting. That Alice says how shit Ioan is and all that follows, you would think she would trade in the watch and god knows what else as not only to eradicate the dead relationship, but to gain something from it, though fleetingly. How fuckin dare she request money from other people, when she has things she can sell, or (my opinion only!) use up monies she has squirreled away. She has taken money from people who in my opinion, are vulnerable. In my profession it's not in my interests to attack anybody, but my god - in another world if ever I saw Alice...What a horrible, greedy, lying Cunt.

 

[tropeonarope]

All of a sudden sockbro speaks & writes French Who’d have guessed it?

 

[Diamonds60]

 

[NarcRage]

Ioan can console himself with the fact that no matter how bad the divorce is ...it's still 1000 times better than staying married to her.
He would rather be dead than spend another day with her. Says a lot about her, if we were ever in any doubt.

 

[ReturningthePearls]

For the record, the last person who told me “You’re just jealous” had just gotten her period. Like this is pathetic grade-school nonsense, does she ACTUALLY think ANYONE is jealous of her Muppet Show of a life?