She seems remarkably full of energy, bounce and vigour… wonder how the Fibro/ME is treating her today? Or *could it be a selective malady only brought on by the fact that she hasn’t got her own way*?I thought she wore them so she was ready to do a runner!
But I was wrong, running is too much like hard work
Yes they like my Cloud Cuckoo land meme the other day.Anyone spotted @unobtrusive lurker recently?!
Just wondering - haven’t seen them in awhile
Welcome! Lovely to have you here.This lady is nuts! I've not commented on these threads before but I've been following them. How does she really think this is going to go for her?
I feel so sorry for her kids.
I get that, I just can't see which part of her breeching the Restraining Order can be used against her in Civil Court (defamation maybe, but Ioan will never sue her for this, besides it does not prevent the possibility of getting sued, you are just not automatically presumed liable). I believe this is more common in traffic law in order to not pay for the damages you caused.pleading 'guilty' or 'no contest' -- 'no contest' cannot be sued in certain circumstance... read below:
Well, any guilty plea/finding of guilt will work against her in the (civil) divorce but I agree that it's unlikely to work in any other way separate from the RO itself. Agree that she really has to plead not guilty. I don't think she will be found not guilty, but there is at least a chance that way. With guilty/no contest, it's game over. But ... she will have to pay a lawyer to represent her to a negotiated plea or a trial..... and that wouldn't come out of Ioan's pocket.I get that, I just can't see which part of her breeching the Restraining Order can be used against her in Civil Court (defamation maybe, but Ioan will never sue her for this). I believe this is more common in traffic law in order to not pay for the damages you caused.
I can see @NarcRage's point though that "guilty" has not many advantages (depending on the bargain the judge offers though), but I definitely dont think that in a case like this no contest makes much sense.
(In Alice's specific case neither makes sense tbh, she has to plead not guilty due to her divorce)
Though no contest sounds like a typical Alice thing that she would spin to her followers as her actually not being guilty lol
I enjoy Scott Reisch on Youtube. He's a criminal defence attorney and one of his fave sayings is there are two kinds of people: those who are humble and those who are about to be humbled...I’m fairly sure that any lawyer or PR person will give you two looks to choose when going into court.
1. Passive but confident - head up and eyes straight ahead. OR
2. Passive but humble - head down and eyes on the ground.
If you are a asbo yob then you adopt the laughing and posing for camera looks. Only then.
She got humbled. Good.I enjoy Scott Reisch on Youtube. He's a criminal defence attorney and one of his fave sayings is there are two kinds of people: those who are humble and those who are about to be humbled...
just for clarifications sake: if she goes for no contest it will have the same implications on the divorce (custody, support etc.) as a guilty plea/finding of guilt, right?Well, any guilty plea/finding of guilt will work against her in the (civil) divorce but I agree that it's unlikely to work in any other way separate from the RO itself. Agree that she really has to plead not guilty. I don't think she will be found not guilty, but there is at least a chance that way. With guilty/no contest, it's game over. But ... she will have to pay a lawyer to represent her to a negotiated plea or a trial..... and that wouldn't come out of Ioan's pocket.
tbh Ella has the stature of an adultRe the car, there was a driver and someone in the passenger seat (an adult female). She was dropped off by her legals. Someone upthread said they went off to park the car so that Alice didn’t have a big walk. I think that is right.
She said thank you to the pap. He said god luck or something. She said thanks, this was when she was fumbling for the door. She was discombobulated at the car. She was trying to get into an occupied seat.
I don’t think she called that pap. She looked proper rattled when he mentioned jail.
I meant to say that it’s not usually fair to make nasty comments in how other people look. But I think that an exception can be made with the Abuser. I didn’t mean to say that it’s not fair that I am a short, plump, middle aged lady. It’s a privilege to still be around and healthy. I am grateful for thatI know, and agree with you. I don’t comment on how someone looks, as I’m a middle aged plump lady myself, and it’s not fair. However, with the Abuser she is so nasty herself to others it’s hard not to make comments and agree with others. So don’t feel bad @KikiFromNy.
probably, Ioan had those tweets in his latest filingsI hope the breaches she has been done for are from earlier rants where she was saying fuck the PRO so that is directly brought into evidence.
She pleaded NOT GUILTY is she serious. Oh man. This saga really never ends, does it.just for clarifications sake: if she goes for no contest it will have the same implications on the divorce (custody, support etc.) as a guilty plea/finding of guilt, right?
edit: nvm
tbh Ella has the stature of an adult
I also dont think she called the pap, they tend to be around courthouses when celebs are scheduled to appear
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She has plead not guilty lol
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aye, they try to get this done before july
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