Holly Gabrielle #7 Studying, running, always ahead, but one trip to Spain and there's a boy in her bed

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I'm at my limit y'all, I can't handle one more fart mention from the two of them. In all seriousness though, this is just not good content that she's putting out.
 
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Did she do anything in pai other than run and eat?
My theory why she is not much is no one wants to give her freebies in exchange for vlogs and she doesn't want to cough up and pay for the experiences.
 
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She also hasn't moved up with viewers for ages
..she isn't doing anything interesting in a more interesting setting ;(
 
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she has 440k subscribers but her views are hovering around 15k recently ....
for context her most popular uni videos at cambridge had between 1M-2.1M views....
 
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I just checked here to see how she’s doing (I don’t watch her videos anymore). I see from here she’s still starving herself and obsessive with exercise. If she’s not careful sooner or later she’ll injure herself to a point she can’t run (can’t be healthy running on no fats and nutrients), and then she’ll struggle with her self esteem etc because at the moment it seems like holly only exists to eat very little (bland) food, and run obsessively. Unfortunately i can’t see her sorting herself out without intervention.
 
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She will run and underfuel no matter what, how many times has she been injured yet continue to exert herself, she ran the marathon seriously injured! She may be book smart but she is so immature and stupid is many other ways.
 
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They only took one backpack to share and have a bag of hand luggage each. I can’t imagine taking so little especially in such a hot climate like that!
I can imagine they stink then if they run all the time in a hot climate and share so little luggage - surely they’d have to be washing and drying their outfits every day but somehow I get the vibe that they don’t. I think this Angelo guy will move on eventually. What happens to their relationship if one of them hurts their knee or foot and can’t run? Suddenly they have nothing in common then…and I can imagine things turning sour as one will be holding the other back from running.

I think Holly needs to come back and get a regular 9-5 job, get some routine, be part of a team rather than just obsessing over herself. Having a 9-5 would give her some structure to the day that isn’t just running. She could socialise with friends/colleagues and then maybe after a day of working, contributing to something meaningful and, intracting with others, she’d then be able to take a reasonable run to exercise, relax, rather than obsess over it all day.
 
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Do you think her and her family read this forum
I definitely think her and her sister do. I feel like we probably have some of Holly’s peers from Cambridge lurking too. If it were me I’d want to know all about how Cambridge’s former #1 student is now a freeloading unfluencer.
 
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I can imagine they stink then if they run all the time in a hot climate and share so little luggage - surely they’d have to be washing and drying their outfits every day but somehow I get the vibe that they don’t. I think this Angelo guy will move on eventually. What happens to their relationship if one of them hurts their knee or foot and can’t run? Suddenly they have nothing in common then…and I can imagine things turning sour as one will be holding the other back from running.

I think Holly needs to come back and get a regular 9-5 job, get some routine, be part of a team rather than just obsessing over herself. Having a 9-5 would give her some structure to the day that isn’t just running. She could socialise with friends/colleagues and then maybe after a day of working, contributing to something meaningful and, intracting with others, she’d then be able to take a reasonable run to exercise, relax, rather than obsess over it all day.
Definitely! 🤢
I agree that he will probably move on eventually. He seems quite laid back so I would be surprised if the scheduling doesn’t become boring eventually. I think the only thing they have in common is being vegan and running. I don’t think they have a connection or if they do, it’s not obvious.
Maybe. I do think that her obsession with planning may be made worse by a 9-5 and I’m not sure if she could cope with the office environment, and not always being the most intelligent person in the room. She probably can’t cope if she’s not in control and would still find a way to exercise excessively. What she really needs is therapy! It’s very rare to be able to just think your way out of an eating disorder and she is in denial.
 
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Is anyone familiar with Mary and Ben Bridges (Thismesshappy) ? Someone had mentioned in comments that they were a running couple based in Bangkok and Holly should check them out, she had responded she knew them already and had previously used there coaching services. It looks like they both follow each other on Strava.
Anyway Ben and Mary are both 40+ experienced runners and PE Teachers, they have wealth of experience in field, it looks like when racing in Thailand they both have success in placing in races. Yet they train normally, under 40 miles per week, not crazy double days or over 100km like Holly and Angelo. It is no wonder she isnt coached by him anymore as any decent coach would soon tell them some home truths. Its crazy Angelo has never ran a marathon before yet Holly is copying his training every move, just to have excessive mileage and probably to try and beat him.
 
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I definitely think her and her sister do. I feel like we probably have some of Holly’s peers from Cambridge lurking too. If it were me I’d want to know all about how Cambridge’s former #1 student is now a freeloading unfluencer.
It does seem a shame that she was top of the class at Cambridge and now does nothing with that degree (and her masters!). What's the point in all those study hours of now all she does is run and talk about farts?
 
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It's subtle but if you watch her vlogs, you will see that Angelo was the more extreme exercise addict and meeting someone like Holly with her ED history has been the perfect storm - he enables her to be extreme about exercise again without reminding her this could be a dangerous path for her, and she enables him by trying to keep up with him. He often does 2-3 very intense workouts a day and eats very clean (orthorexia-type tendencies), but he doesn't do this for competition but because it's part of a control/restriction cycle for him - that's why he has never competed in a marathon or many races until he met Holly, it's never been about that for him. In her recovery era, Holly has never been this extreme about working out multiple times a day.

If you watch her vlogs, you will see there's times when she can't run or isn't up to a run but he goes anyway without her and there's always a remark about her not being able to come along, and when she had a bad knee and was often in two minds about joining him, he was often egging her on to push her limits. (In her recent travel vlog where she talked about finding running hard and skips an evening run, and instead you see them out eating - Angelo has a sweat on because he still did do a workout lol). You'll also see that whenever they 'eat badly', he is the one pushing for a run that evening or a much longer run the next day. He can't take a day off, even when he's staying at his girlfriends for a night. And she's so attached, she can't let him go for a run and not have that quality time together so she'll follow along on a bike on a bad knee.

Basically, they both have some very deep-seated issues with food and exercise. It's 100% not just Holly, and it's clear to people in her life that he has issues with food (her parents can see this as they often witness the 2-3 workouts a day + cooking very low calorie meals firsthand). I'm pretty sure their feeling is that Holly does eat, and that's a reassurance.

She's a lovely girl and Angelo is a lovely guy but these are two very young people with issues that should not be getting so close so quick, and this will not end well.

Also Angelo is very aware of Holly's past, and she and Angelo are adamant their routines are healthy, their logic is athletes train like this, there are thin athletes (Holly particularly referencing Eilish McColgan as an example - concerning all around) and they both emphasise that they eat. Not much is going to change them except health repurcussions at this point.
 
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It's subtle but if you watch her vlogs, you will see that Angelo was the more extreme exercise addict and meeting someone like Holly with her ED history has been the perfect storm - he enables her to be extreme about exercise again without reminding her this could be a dangerous path for her, and she enables him by trying to keep up with him. He often does 2-3 very intense workouts a day and eats very clean (orthorexia-type tendencies), but he doesn't do this for competition but because it's part of a control/restriction cycle for him - that's why he has never competed in a marathon or many races until he met Holly, it's never been about that for him. In her recovery era, Holly has never been this extreme about working out multiple times a day.

If you watch her vlogs, you will see there's times when she can't run or isn't up to a run but he goes anyway without her and there's always a remark about her not being able to come along, and when she had a bad knee and was often in two minds about joining him, he was often egging her on to push her limits. (In her recent travel vlog where she talked about finding running hard and skips an evening run, and instead you see them out eating - Angelo has a sweat on because he still did do a workout lol). You'll also see that whenever they 'eat badly', he is the one pushing for a run that evening or a much longer run the next day. He can't take a day off, even when he's staying at his girlfriends for a night. And she's so attached, she can't let him go for a run and not have that quality time together so she'll follow along on a bike on a bad knee.

Basically, they both have some very deep-seated issues with food and exercise. It's 100% not just Holly, and it's clear to people in her life that he has issues with food (her parents can see this as they often witness the 2-3 workouts a day + cooking very low calorie meals firsthand). I'm pretty sure their feeling is that Holly does eat, and that's a reassurance.

She's a lovely girl and Angelo is a lovely guy but these are two very young people with issues that should not be getting so close so quick, and this will not end well.

Also Angelo is very aware of Holly's past, and she and Angelo are adamant their routines are healthy, their logic is athletes train like this, there are thin athletes (Holly particularly referencing Eilish McColgan as an example - concerning all around) and they both emphasise that they eat. Not much is going to change them except health repurcussions at this point.
I don’t really agree with you, but that’s you’re opinion!
I think he seems to go along with what Holly wants to do because she can’t sit still and not exercise. He naturally probably has more stamina and he eats a lot more than Holly. She will only eat rye bread and sweet potatoes (carb wise) whereas he seems to eat whatever he feels like eating.
Angelo may well be aware of Holly’s past, but it doesn’t mean that he has to become her carer and stop running himself or change his diet to try to prevent her ED behaviours that have never gone away.
Holly was determined to start running again, but as it has coincided with Angelo coming onto the scene he is being labelled as both responsible for her excessive exercise and supposedly his own. I don’t know enough about him or see enough of his daily routine to label him as an exercise addict with an eating disorder.
Angelo is not suddenly an extension of Holly because they are in a relationship and should be free to exercise if he wants to without being accused of trying to trigger her. Holly is an adult and is responsible for herself. If Angelo wasn’t around and Holly was running daily which I can guarantee that she would do - who would you blame other than Holly herself? 🙄
 
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