Harry & Meghan #353 No guns for hire for the ginger, ducking liar.

[Evangelina]

Anyone who thinks critically and does research on the fray to put the puzzle pieces together is always labeled a conspiracy theorist when what they’ve deciphered comes too close to the truth.

True.
Sometimes conspiracy theories are created, as a bread and circuses distraction, they occasionaly successfully distract from real conspiracies that we are living.
If we argue A vs B event as opposing sides, we will both fail to notice /react to event C.
Event C often has a much greater impact on our lives.

 

[CELESTE CROCKETT]

Ignoring Peg in this, sometimes one is adapted to such claims.
Longtime watchers, media observers and similar have seen it all.
I personally have a hard time remembering a ''normal'' pregnancy, including Kates (the speculations perspective) and hers included a murder, a cover up, a bed pan baby, and Wills isn't the father.
Not joking, heres one:
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Yep, having a mild speech problem, creates impotence (Queen's father)


So yes, also the speculations immensely helped Peg, they maintained interest in the children, without any kind of media exposure.
SM would remind MSM about them.

Sorry at the 'Beefsteak club' made me laugh

 

[Shemakesmemad]

So suddenly there are a number of people posting in here and in Reddit long, numbered lists of defenses of M and her “pregnancies”…basically claiming that the surrogate theory is bunk and that anyone who believes it is an unhinged conspiracy theorist. They have suddenly started with such frequency at the exact same time that I have raised my eyebrow in suspicion

Yep I had a similar thought myself I still think the children used in the photos have been borrowed.

 

[Plantagenet]

True.
Sometimes conspiracy theories are created, as a bread and circuses distraction, they occasionaly successfully distract from real conspiracies that we are living.
If we argue A vs B event as opposing sides, we will both fail to notice /react to event C.
Event C often has a much greater impact on our lives.

According to The Royal Grift the car chase was a distraction to keep people from looking at what is going on with Travalyst. She believes that it is one big con to make a ton of money for Harry and sell information while controlling certain aspects of your life and ability to travel to certain places. It comes off as sounding very tin hat, but there are aspects of it that I could see believing. Certainly one of the things that Harry wants with his IPP status is to have access to sensitive government information. This could be used to determine what countries travelers would be directed to. It would give information about many of the countries that lean to the side of being unstable as well as economic information about them that could lead to privileged information connected to investment opportunities.

Of course the car chase was more than just what The Royal Grift is suggesting. It is still part of the overall need that they have to keep their names in the media. It reeks of no such thing as bad PR. The same is true regarding the divorce rumors, which may be coming from them just to stir things up. Not talking about them is worse than talking about them, from their point of view. They will never shut up.

 

[Evangelina]

Sorry at the 'Beefsteak club' made me laugh

Yes, but such places had ''impact.''
In the aftermath of Queen backpeddaling from the Mountbatten name (letters patent) the origins of Andrews ''parentage'' speculation started, namely a member declaring that the child (still in utero) will wear exact wording ''the badge of bastardy.''
So basically not having the fathers name, means one is born out of wedlock.
The then PM was senior trustee.

 

[trouble-loves-me]

What are DM (not) saying here?

(I’ll always be a countess)

Ex-escort who ordered murder of the Earl of Shaftesbury keeps title

MailOnline has tracked down Jamila Ben M'Barek from her 25-year prison sentence for plotting the killing of the 10th Earl of Shaftesbury, Antony Ashley-Cooper.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I tried to comment on that, but unsurprisingly my POV didn't materialise...I asked if the DM were trolling us with that lookie likely pic of that woman resembling Rachel
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I'm going to be 70 on Tuesday and I have better skin as well.

My birthday on Tuesday too, half century for me..
Many happy returns of the day to you xx

 

[Blockster]

I was undecided about surrogacy until that article late last year in the Daily Mail written by Sarah Vine, where she talks about Megs moonbump swinging in the breeze or something, either way that piece I'm pretty sure would have been checked before going to print and silence from The Sussexes, they've sued over less I'm sure.
Can't explain why she looked weighty perhaps she went full method acting!

 

[Lenniel]

I still think the first was a genuine pregnancy, she’s not stupid she wanted to guarantee her place etc. I’d be open to discussing a surrogacy for the second.

 

[Scotch Mist]

So suddenly there are a number of people posting in here and in Reddit long, numbered lists of defenses of M and her “pregnancies”…basically claiming that the surrogate theory is bunk and that anyone who believes it is an unhinged conspiracy theorist. They have suddenly started with such frequency at the exact same time that I have raised my eyebrow in suspicion

And why should these random strangers care?
People are allowed to speculate. I honestly don't understand why anyone is so attached to celebrities (unless they are blood relatives or friends in real life). I just find it bizarre.

Anyway I rather enjoy being an unhinged conspiracy theorist now

 

[Plantagenet]

Apologies if this has already been posted - but does anyone know if this is genuine? Is that really her? I nearly opened my mouth in astonishment while watching it - surely even Smegs can't be THIS ridiculous?

It is genuine and a perfect example of her greed and need to hog the limelight. The way the young man prevented her from grabbing the trophy told me that he and the team did not like her. His body language said it all.

 

[Evangelina]

And why should these random strangers care?
People are allowed to speculate. I honestly don't understand why anyone is so attached to celebrities (unless they are blood relatives or friends in real life). I just find it bizarre.

Anyway I rather enjoy being an unhinged conspiracy theorist now

A serious amount of them are anti-monarchists, using the situation against monarchists which logically aren't fond of the Harkles action.
Basically a ''discrediting'' method.(of a Royalist)
some are unhinged fans, just like many other celebs have, and some are ''activists'' from media management firms which are using the ''repetition until mainstream'' principle.
The ''rings a bell'' effect on subconsciousness (even if its not true)
See also the united usage of ''princess meghan'' ''violent William''and similar.
They are fighting the pro-Royalty elements.
Some earn about 5$ per hour to dwell on SM.

 

[Cat Eyez]

Has anyone seen anything posted by Laura Poirot recently?
Hope she's not been silenced

I'm not on Twatter.

 

[trouble-loves-me]

Has anyone seen anything posted by Laura Poirot recently?
Hope she's not been silenced

I'm not on Twatter.

I'll have a look

Yes, she's still there

 

[rowenagal]

A random thought re the divorce rumours. I wonder if when Harold was seen by lip readers at the Coronation to have said he was "fed up" he may have meant it was about his marriage. We all assumed at the time it was about the RF. I've no sympathy for him as he made his own bed and all that.

 

[AmIbeingTreasonable]

Thanks @LadyMuck
Rumours that KC is advising Harold to make sure he has the right lawyer to negotiate the split, and has retained Robert Cohen for this. The Ho will go for full custody of the children, but as most of us know they don't exist there's no knowing how this will play out. Crazy Harold will be detrimental to the children etc.
Is this it? It looks like the Ho is sailing through life and has managed to leave Harold behind labelled with all sorts of failings like drug abuse and mental health issues. She's made sure he's been seen to get away, not committed to his family or children, and she's let everyone know that he's not in the family home.
Not kissing him at the Lakers game was part of the plan.
Harold will inherit from the QM when he turns 40 next September. Will she wait until then for a bigger cut? There's no pre-up, though right up until the wedding the RF tried to put one in place. The Ho was deeply offended and upset. It's possible HM put something in place on the QT.
The Ho believes that she will thrive after the divorce and that she has a lot to offer without him. She gave it 5 years, and the performance of her life.
Celt says it will all come out soon about the children, according to a Palace insider. She showed some photos of Harkle children stand-ins, and said that we've known for a long time that these are not their children.

BIB I remember reading that The Queen organised that MM had to sign a pre nup on the wedding day, she was taken into an ante room in the church and told, no sign, no marriage, don't remember where I read this though.

 

[willbiteback]

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Thanks @LadyMuck
Rumours that KC is advising Harold to make sure he has the right lawyer to negotiate the split, and has retained Robert Cohen for this. The Ho will go for full custody of the children, but as most of us know they don't exist there's no knowing how this will play out. Crazy Harold will be detrimental to the children etc.
Is this it? It looks like the Ho is sailing through life and has managed to leave Harold behind labelled with all sorts of failings like drug abuse and mental health issues. She's made sure he's been seen to get away, not committed to his family or children, and she's let everyone know that he's not in the family home.
Not kissing him at the Lakers game was part of the plan.
Harold will inherit from the QM when he turns 40 next September. Will she wait until then for a bigger cut? There's no pre-up, though right up until the wedding the RF tried to put one in place. The Ho was deeply offended and upset. It's possible HM put something in place on the QT.
The Ho believes that she will thrive after the divorce and that she has a lot to offer without him. She gave it 5 years, and the performance of her life.
Celt says it will all come out soon about the children, according to a Palace insider. She showed some photos of Harkle children stand-ins, and said that we've known for a long time that these are not their children.

Thanks. This could get really interesting. If it is acknowledged that there are no children, does that mean no child support would be sought or offered? No massive sums sought for the security of the children? I know TW doesn’t play be the same rulebook as most of us, but how does she think she could possibly salvage a viable career for herself if there are no children? So much of her performance depends upon her “ as a mother…” and the credibility of all of her personal experience claims.

 

[tobehonest]

Laura Poirot is making video of all she has uncovered and is still editing it so not sure when she will post

 

[nukeantz]

I could believe that MM wore a moon bump to confuse the media and dates when Baby was due. I would imagine she had great fun doing this, as people would say she looks bigger for her dates/smaller for her dates so muddying the waters But why? was she already so bitter about the hierarchy in the RF and she wanted her kids to have more attention and equal rights ?? I am coming round to the fact she so didn't understand the RF and hereditary rites that she got it all wrong deliberately , because she wanted her and Harold to have the same PR/rights/ focus / money/ as the Wales's She had wound Harold into a frenzy of " you have every right as your brother to all this, you too are Diana's son ....blahh blah " She saw RF was stuck in it's historical roots and she wanted them to branch out as the new modern royalty , which HLMTQ said 'NO" and she was right to do that.
One of the early indicator to me of this was that even that Harold and v pregnant MM ( allegedly) were hijacking the "senior royals " event and they shouldn't have been there and Charles said "senior royals only " this was knocking them back, ....she never forgave him the slight imho

she knew then she had to do something radical and voila !

just want to add, I think they used a surrogate for both children

I loved that Senior only video. They were denied and escorted around. I like to watch it when I’m sad. Gives me a smile

 

[willbiteback]

True.
Sometimes conspiracy theories are created, as a bread and circuses distraction, they occasionaly successfully distract from real conspiracies that we are living.
If we argue A vs B event as opposing sides, we will both fail to notice /react to event C.
Event C often has a much greater impact on our lives.

So true. And there’s value in having a common enemy if you want to solidify your support. This thread is great - so many smart people and creative thinkers.

 

[Tangent Tiger]

BIB I remember reading that The Queen organised that MM had to sign a pre nup on the wedding day, she was taken into an ante room in the church and told, no sign, no marriage, don't remember where I read this though.

I can't imagine the Queen being that feisty! It would have been a bit last minute as well, can you imagine if it had all been called off. As Meghan is somewhat of a wildcard this might have occurred

Any prenup would have had to have been in advance.