Harry and Meghan #90 Philip didn't want a fuss so let's make the funeral all about us!

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Familial forgiveness is a strange thing. Terrible family rifts can perhaps be plastered over, but never actually healed in my personal experience. Once people say/do something unforgiveable (which I suggest is what Hazzno and the Ho have done) if it is in the interest of other family members to smooth over the cracks then perhaps they'll do that. But it's never the same.

There is a Japanese tradition of restoring broken porcelain with gold, which I think is a beautiful concept. But I'm not sure if it works with people. If I were Catherine or Wills or Camilla I'd never trust either of the fuckers again. It would probably he harder for Charles to reach that stage.
It's human nature. When we forgive someone, we feel good about ourselves, we feed our ego. There is always a question if we forgive because we are really so kindhearted or because we need to feel good about ourselves. But we never forget. Also, you may forgive if something isn't substantial, but I'm thinking that it isn't case in this matter.

I think that it's too early to talk about forgiving. There would be years of work to undo current damage and I'm afraid that it would need some extraordinary circumstances for at least W&K to forgive. Just imagine some SS looney near Cambridge children.
 
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He only did Doi a couple of years ago, I think that is his PR trying to up his profile.
Apologies to pussies everywhere but I think Alex Beresford enjoyed what's known as a "dead cat bounce", when he had a brief moment of fame thanks to Piers Morgan, then sank back into obscurity where he belongs and where he will stay. :ROFLMAO: Miow.
ETA Disclaimer...in case Feline Patrol come after me, I've got loads of cats and two dogs.
 
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Queen will have to sit alone at Prince Philip's funeral because of strict Covid rules
The law states that anyone attending a funeral must stay at least two metres apart from anyone who is not part of their household bubble

ByGordon Rayner, ASSOCIATE EDITOR13 April 2021 • 10:00pm
The Queen is not eligible to form a support bubble with another member of her family because she does not live on her own



The Queen faces the prospect of having to sit on her own during the Duke of Edinburgh’s funeral because of strict Covid rules, it has emerged.

The law states that anyone attending a funeral must stay at least two metres apart from anyone who is not part of their household, meaning all members of the Royal family will have to spread out in St George’s Chapel at Windsor Castle.

The Queen is not eligible to be in a support bubble because she does not live on her own, meaning the only person who could sit with her during the service would be a member of her Windsor Castle staff.
The Duke’s private secretary, Brigadier Archie Miller-Bakewell, is expected to be one of the 30 mourners allowed at the ceremony, and as a member of “HMS Bubble” at Windsor may be the only attendee eligible by law to sit with the Queen.

Royal sources confirmed that the Queen would be alone at the funeral service unless a member of the Windsor bubble joins her.
The Queen and other members of the Royal family will also, by law, have to wear face coverings during the ceremony, and will not be allowed to sing.

Buckingham Palace said exact details of the funeral service will be disclosed on Thursday, but a spokesman added: “We have made it very clear that the service will be Covid compliant.”

Andy Langford, clinical director of the charity Cruse Bereavement Care, of which the Queen is royal patron, said many people had found it “immensely difficult not being able to grieve the way they want to grieve” over the past year.

He said: “The Queen may be standing alone, but there is a difference between being alone and feeling isolated, and the important thing is that you can have people you can reach out to.

“It’s also about being fully informed in advance about how the ceremony will take place.

“We advise people that yes, the funeral itself is important, but the time before and the time after are really critical.”

The Government’s Covid website warns mourners that: “You may struggle not just with the bereavement, but with the impact of social distancing measures and the fact that you may not be able to say goodbye in the way that you would have wanted.”

Some funerals over the past year have been marred by members of staff at crematoria berating relatives for comforting next of kin and forcing them to move apart.

They included a funeral in Milton Keynes last October, at which a man moved his chair so he could put his arm around his mother at the funeral of his father, only for a member of staff to interrupt the service and order them to “move the chairs back”.

The incident was captured on film because the funeral was being live-streamed, and the local council later said its staff “should have taken a more considered approach”.

Other members of the Royal family who will have to sit 2m away from everyone else during the service include Prince Harry, who does not live with anyone else attending the ceremony, and his cousin Peter Phillips, who is expected to attend without his estranged wife Autumn.

Other members of the Royal family, such as the Prince of Wales and the Duchess of Cornwall, will sit together as couples, but 2m away from other mourners.

Brigadier Miller-Bakewell began working for the Duke in 2010, managing his diary and his public engagements before the Duke’s retirement in 2017.

The 66-year-old has represented the Duke at official events in the past four years. Before he joined the Royal Household, he worked at the Ministry of Defence as its director of resettlement, helping ex-military personnel settle into civilian life, following a distinguished Army career of his own.
The Government’s rules state that only one “professional” person can sing at funerals, though up to three people can sing “if it is essential to an act of worship”. It means a chorister or professional singer could be asked to sing at the ceremony, but it must “not include audience participation”, according to current rules.

The Queen is not eligible to form a support bubble with another member of her family because she does not live on her own. Around 20 people are included in the Windsor Castle bubble that the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh formed when Covid restrictions were imposed.

Although there are other qualifications for forming a support bubble, such as being a single parent, none of them apply to Her Majesty.

If the Queen intends to provide refreshments after the funeral, only five other people will be able to attend, as the rule of six applies.
Despite officially being in a two-week period of mourning, the Queen carried out a royal engagement yesterday, hosting an audience with the Earl Peel.
Tnat’s so sad. I think they said something about Philip’s personal valet being there...maybe he’s part of the household & can sit with her.
 
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Yes, I agree it is possible to forgive, but probably not to forget. Better people than me can forgive; I guess in the RF position I could possibly forgive Hazzno eventually, but no way could I forgive Smegzy. And I would never trust them again. But if you break someone's trust then that's what you should expect really.
 
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H has always had security. His army mate Dean Stott who are their mouthpieces. Very interesting

 
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Re Catherine acting as peacemaker - why. should. she..? Smeggy singled her out as a target of her vitriol in the interview. She trashed the family that Catherine is a key part of. Why do people assume she’s ready to lead the way in ‘healing the rift’? In her shoes I’d be incandescent. She’s entitled to be angry.
 
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Re Catherine acting as peacemaker - why. should. she..? Smeggy singled her out as a target of her vitriol in the interview. She trashed the family that Catherine is a key part of. Why do people assume she’s ready to lead the way in ‘healing the rift’? In her shoes I’d be incandescent. She’s entitled to be angry.
If I was Kate, I would be furious at Meghan and would not want to build any bridges with her. As far as Harry is concerned, I think it would be difficult for her to try and act as an intermediary between him and Wills. If I was her, I would stay in the background and get on with my life.
 
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Prince Philip's passing has me thinking about what Meghan will do when her father dies. Assuming they remain estranged I think it would be disingenuous for her to go but I can see her wanting to play the role of the grieving daughter.
 
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Prince Philip's passing has me thinking about what Meghan will do when her father dies. Assuming they remain estranged I think it would be disingenuous for her to go but I can see her wanting to play the role of the grieving daughter.
One would like to think that this has made her review her relationship with her father but I very much doubt it.
 
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channel jumping and watched 10 mins of Grace Kelly's life from Hollywood to Monaco. TQ & PP had apparently declined the wedding and I quote the interviewee claims 'no no I'm not going, far too many celebrities, far too many Hollywood types'
But later became friends. Also Grace had lessons with a French tutor and learnt the royal way to try to fit in.
 
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Prince Philip's passing has me thinking about what Meghan will do when her father dies. Assuming they remain estranged I think it would be disingenuous for her to go but I can see her wanting to play the role of the grieving daughter.
If theres a camera, or some dosh- she'll be there.
 
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If I were in the RF I’d be keeping interaction with Harry the Traitor minimal and formal, and making sure that every bit of conversation was filmed, either by inviting a friendly Royal reporter to all meetings or by one of the younger royals documenting it ‘for a project’. That way any accusations that come out of Montecito can be immediately refuted and proved a lie.

Or I’d insist on him being swept for recording devices. He can’t be trusted at all.
 
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Prince Philip's passing has me thinking about what Meghan will do when her father dies. Assuming they remain estranged I think it would be disingenuous for her to go but I can see her wanting to play the role of the grieving daughter.
Probably show up in designer black with a long black veil draped over one of those wide brimmed hats she favours, like Valentino's mystery mourner, then give a teary-eyed tell-all interview to Oprah about 'my truth about my father'.
 
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Prince Philip's passing has me thinking about what Meghan will do when her father dies. Assuming they remain estranged I think it would be disingenuous for her to go but I can see her wanting to play the role of the grieving daughter.
She'd turn up like Wallis in The Crown, full black veil.
 
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If I was Kate, I would be furious at Meghan and would not want to build any bridges with her. As far as Harry is concerned, I think it would be difficult for her to try and act as an intermediary between him and Wills. If I was her, I would stay in the background and get on with my life.
There's so many photos pre-Meghan of Harry and Kate interacting and you can tell there was a lot of affection between them. I think that's why it was Kate that Meghan stuck the knife into - even on a platonic level she didn't want to compete with another woman for Harry's affection.

I have no idea how Kate will act. More than likely civil but guarded I would think, she must be hurt by their behaviour, in particular that Harry just let her sit there and trash Kate.
 
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There was a fab post at the end of the last thread that pretty much nailed all the errors the duo have made. I suspect the PR will become more desperate over the next few days as it dawns on them both finally that it's not really any longer within the RFs power to bring them back into the fold on any professional level, only as a member of the family. They have very few supporters over here and none that actually matter.
Can someone repost the post you’re talking about here if they get a chance 🤞 I missed it!
 
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