The pic on the DM is BRUTAL! She looks like a loonatic
Also when Carl Gustav stripped his non Victoria (white) grandchildren of their HRHs their parents were publicly gracious and said it would allow them to have more options in life. Instead of complaining about how it wasn't fair. It was partly done to stop criticism of Madeleine's children being brought up in Miami. She also goes by Madeleine O Neill privately.Thank you for the sparkly new thread!
I've been thinking (dangerous, I know) about the whinging Princess Haz did on the podcast about his life, how the family are stuck, insinuating cruelty? abuse? from his father, etcetcetc, and the Swedish royals, in particular, those of the generation to Princess Haz, came to mind.
Carl Gustaf XVI has three children: Victoria, Carl Philip and Madeleine.
Agnatic primogeniture was law when Victoria (b. 1977) then Carl Philip (b. 1979) were born. Six months after Carl Philip's birth, Parliament voted through an amendment to the constitution, making primogeniture absolute and backdating the amendment, so Victoria became Crown Princess.
It is said Carl Gustaf was furious, and Carl Philip has been given appointments which traditionally were attached to the heir.
Victoria developed an eating disorder when she was a teenager and while in recovery, met Daniel (her now-husband) at his gym. Daniel is said to have aided her recovery. There was disapproval about this relationship, not least of which came from the king. A country-born gym owner/trainer? My pearls! Victoria and Daniel dated for eight years (rumours of a brief breakup a couple of years in) before finally being given approval to marry, which they did in 2010 (their wedding is a beautiful thing to watch). They have since had two children, Estelle (Victoria's heir) and Oscar.
Carl Philip dated a friend of his sister's for about a decade, before leaving her and getting together with a one-time reality star, Sofia, who had a nude photoshoot when she was a teenager in Asia (her parents travelled with her), kissed a porn star on television, made jokes about disabled people, wrote on a blog about how she and her then-boyfriend tried to convince the other to out of bed to see to the boyfriend's young child and so on. Sofia's image has had an overhaul since their marriage. They have three sweet little boys.
Madeleine was seen as a party princess, had many gossip columns devoted to her, following her every move and insinuating all sorts, and a broken engagement. She is married to Chris, a British-American businessman, and lives in Florida with their three children privately. Chris turned down a title upon marriage. It is said they were aware they wouldn't be needed with the oncoming generation, and Chris makes good money, so they were happy to do their own thing. She uses a public instagram, acknowledging birthdays of her children and the Swedish RF, important dates in the Swedish calendar, and works with Queen Silvia for the charity Childhood.
[I am aware I've left bits and pieces out, but trying to not write a thesis. Have also tried to be as accurate as I can, having been 'royal watching' the SRF since before 2010. If you're interested further, look them up. Victoria & Daniel are ]
Three royal children. The heir, who felt tremendous pressure and it is said was always made aware that she is only the CP because of parliamentary law, struggled with an eating disorder, found true love who stuck by her for years even while being given the cold shoulder by the court, has two adorable children and works tirelessly for her country, alongside Daniel. The then-spare, married someone who raised eyebrows in many quarters, now a tight little unit, working for the Family, and supporting their charities. The youngest, rose above what tabloids wrote of her, found love, moved across the world, and continues to support her family, both personally and professionally, and causes she cares deeply for.
Compare to Princess Haz.
He was petted by family members because he wasn't the heir, helped through school, helped into training at Sandhurst, military duties, worked with Sentebale, WellChild. When he indulged in drugs, drinking and the rest, it was covered up. He was looked after. He was given professional help. When he acted like a wanker, people would say "oh, it's our Haz", look at that cheeky grin. He had a way with older people, with children, with the military, which professionally was being put to good use. He was included in things with William and Catherine to ensure he wasn't out on a limb on his own. I see a family, who both privately and professionally did their best to help. Yes, Diana died at a tragically young age, but William lost his mother that day too.
I would dearly like to see Princess Haz in a room with the Swedes. They would be able to teach him a thing or two about duty, family, what it means to be royal and generally not being a wanker.
I hope this all comes out.There have been rumours about his rough treatment of women...
He's disgusting.Thanks to @Notworthy for the new thread and @spangly for the great title.
This quote from Jan Moir in the DM made me laugh.
“I’ve had enough of him and his banquet of bespoke celebrity problems, including a chief beef about lack of privacy which he has talked about on global TV with James Corden, then with Oprah Winfrey and now in a 90-minute podcast in which he seemed to agree with his interlocutors that yes, limbless orphans in Lesotho had it bad, but at least they had their freedom, unlike his good self”
Also when Carl Gustav stripped his non Victoria (white) grandchildren of their HRHs their parents were publicly gracious and said it would allow them to have more options in life. Instead of complaining about how it wasn't fair. It was partly done to stop criticism of Madeleine's children being brought up in Miami. She also goes by Madeleine O Neill privately.
Compare that to the Duke and Duchess of Montecito.
Can you imagine the screaming and general utter lunacy if (hoping when) the titles are removed from Haz and HFW? Regardless of how the Swedes felt personally, they continue to support the family and do their duty when and as appropriate. These twerps would be on American national television weeping about the inherent racism and every other 'ism' they can think of that would receive woke pity. [A thought I had just as I was about to press post: What if some of what Haz was insinuating about Charles is partly trying to set Charles up for later, as it looks to fall to PoW to remove their titles? ] I think Twitter would explode from the rage of their squad. I would be pouring the champagne and toasting the long lives of the Royal FamilyThe King of Sweden also removed the HRH and Prince/Princess titles and funding from Carl Philip and Madeleine’s children. Because everyone is adults, they all just got on with it.
It struck me that WB said her friends were wrong about her (when she claimed to not want to be a princess...AFTER the lavish wedding and discovering that it is not what HW wants, HW gets. He was warned by every single person in his life. Everyone could see through her but this moron.
I thought it was Will and Kate who encouraged him to seek help - years before Smeggy even set one gnarled hoof in the UK.Just following on from a comment on the other thread where someone said they feel Meghan will accuse Harry of abuse down the line. I feel like the groundwork is already being laid for such an accusation, him saying yesterday Meghan told him to get therapy as he was “angry”. Who knows, maybe she encouraged him to say that so in a few years she can be like “I had to ask him to get help for his anger problems”..
She is a completely unhinged gone girl. She has the whole thing planned out
He is an arse crawling lickspittle not a scrap of decency or patriotism.Thanks for new thread
On Jeremy Vine show this morning the majority were on his side. I had to turn over
Given what a hard partier he was back in the day, some deadening of the brain is very possible, indeed, likelyWait what??!
Oprah interview: we would back in a heartbeat...
Podcats now: he had to run away to break the horrible royal upbringing he had, for his kids and M..
Is he braindead?!
I think we can close the thread now. Perfect summaryJust dropping in to post an important comment.
bleeping twit waffle.
That is all.