Grackle #3 Barely dated and married off. Zoe Sugg must be devastated

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Her sponsorships have increased though. A couple years ago she rarely did them. I would guess that a large amount of her income is from sponsorships.
I think it's also to make up for the lack of views (and subs) and because she's obviously trying to make to most out of it now with her new life coming up, racking in that cash now the cash cow is still somewhat alive
 
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Criminal defence is interesting but I also remember how uncomfortable I was being in the same room as someone accused of rape.... you are often put in positions where you are defending someone who has clearly committed the crime. I dont see how that aligns with his religious beliefs/morals he would have from his practicing his religion.
I'm far from an expert but what about defending innocent people who are accused of crimes, that's also part of the job right? And on the flip side is prosecution much better if you're going after an innocent person?

This isn't necessarily an attack on your comment or even disagreeing with you, but it makes me wonder if any legal profession is compatible with religion.
 
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You could say any pretty much any job is incompatible with religion to some extent to be fair though. Depends on how religious you are as well 🤷‍♀️.
 
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You could say any pretty much any job is incompatible with religion to some extent to be fair though. Depends on how religious you are as well 🤷‍♀️.
Is it though? Can you explain? I am not religious, but brought up in a religious household and went to church or sunday school until I turned 18. I have never heard such a thing. Please don't think this as attacking you, I am just honestly so interested to hear you talk about this and your reason behind this! I shared before that my family is very religious, my dad's side of the family half of them is Jehovah, even they all work hard and regular jobs, so I'm really curious :giggle:
 
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I'm far from an expert but what about defending innocent people who are accused of crimes, that's also part of the job right? And on the flip side is prosecution much better if you're going after an innocent person?

This isn't necessarily an attack on your comment or even disagreeing with you, but it makes me wonder if any legal profession is compatible with religion.
That's part of the job too... for me personally defending a guilty person would outweigh any good I attempt to achieve in helping the innocent/framed. Because that guilty person he defends may (and often do) go reoffend and harm others - how do you not feel partially responsible for that?

I find it odd that he's gone from being an intern at Clifford Chance (who specialise predominantly in litigious and non litigious corporate work) to criminal defence. They are polar opposites. He also studied at Durham & Nottingham (top law schools) who push the corporate lawyer route down your throat. So honestly I'm just curious how he ended up opting for criminal defence an area that doesn't quite align with his religious beliefs, educational background & not as financially lucrative.

The legal sphere is vast he could have chosen something better paid like banking, mergers & acquisitions, real estate etc ... areas that don't pose the above predicament.

You could say any pretty much any job is incompatible with religion to some extent to be fair though. Depends on how religious you are as well 🤷‍♀️.
I agree with you to a certain extent. Workplace environment may not be compatible for people who practice their religion and people are often forced to compromise.

This is very different to actively making a choice to specialise in an area of law like criminal defence... I guess what I'm saying is there is a scale to that incompatibility and as I mention in my above post he has options that aren't as incompatible with his morals.
 
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Not to be annoying but I cba about her fella at least he's doing something somewhat interesting with his life instead of half arsed vlogs and reviews of stuff that Grace is putting out.

My mum is a judge and it's a f*cking difficult job being involved in law BECAUSE of the daily mind f*ck of facing your personal morals vs your job. But you try and do your best because there's plenty of corruption and horrendous stuff you have to deal with all of the time.
At least it's something challenging...

She's so very dull what do they have in common at all?! She has the emotional and intellectual range of a bloody teaspoon.
 
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Do UK Youtubers get paid less than in the USA? In the USA people of her side are pulling in a few hundred thousand a year so I'm wondering if those numbers of her business aren't accurate or what?
 
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His job doesnt align with defending someone who from all the evidence proves they committed a crime.
What people miss in this is that a lawyer won’t actually argue someone didn’t do it if they say they have. They are obligated to be truthful. Doesn’t mean they can’t have doubts in their client’s stories or come up with defences (like not criminally responsible etc) but they actually have to believe what they’re arguing.
 
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What people miss in this is that a lawyer won’t actually argue someone didn’t do it if they say they have. They are obligated to be truthful. Doesn’t mean they can’t have doubts in their client’s stories or come up with defences (like not criminally responsible etc) but they actually have to believe what they’re arguing.
very true, what they do hve to do though it get the best possibleoutcome. I know people who have had to defend, for expaeo[hiles and it is not at all arguing they are not guilty but just going through legal issues to get them the least possible jail term. I personally would never be able to do this, I would want them to get the worst possible
 
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That's part of the job too... for me personally defending a guilty person would outweigh any good I attempt to achieve in helping the innocent/framed. Because that guilty person he defends may (and often do) go reoffend and harm others - how do you not feel partially responsible for that?

I find it odd that he's gone from being an intern at Clifford Chance (who specialise predominantly in litigious and non litigious corporate work) to criminal defence. They are polar opposites. He also studied at Durham & Nottingham (top law schools) who push the corporate lawyer route down your throat. So honestly I'm just curious how he ended up opting for criminal defence an area that doesn't quite align with his religious beliefs, educational background & not as financially lucrative.

The legal sphere is vast he could have chosen something better paid like banking, mergers & acquisitions, real estate etc ... areas that don't pose the above predicament.



I agree with you to a certain extent. Workplace environment may not be compatible for people who practice their religion and people are often forced to compromise.

This is very different to actively making a choice to specialise in an area of law like criminal defence... I guess what I'm saying is there is a scale to that incompatibility and as I mention in my above post he has options that aren't as incompatible with his morals.
Or he just took a job like most people have to and just does it to pay the bills. My friend did the same job, defended all sorts of scum bags. They do have the right to a fair trials but also would try and find ways to help get them off even though he despised them as that was his job
 
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Not to be annoying but I cba about her fella at least he's doing something somewhat interesting with his life instead of half arsed vlogs and reviews of stuff that Grace is putting out.

My mum is a judge and it's a f*cking difficult job being involved in law BECAUSE of the daily mind f*ck of facing your personal morals vs your job. But you try and do your best because there's plenty of corruption and horrendous stuff you have to deal with all of the time.
At least it's something challenging...

She's so very dull what do they have in common at all?! She has the emotional and intellectual range of a bloody teaspoon.
wondering what they have in common too other than church
perhaps he wants a sturdy homebound woman to come home to after a stressful day at work
how do they have fun? does he discuss work with her? what are her takes on crime?
 
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wondering what they have in common too other than church
perhaps he wants a sturdy homebound woman to come home to after a stressful day at work
how do they have fun? does he discuss work with her? what are her takes on crime?
He could be a break for her because she's so childish, seeing he's devout as well he probably just wants a good housewife who cleans up, cooks etc. Which Grace seems to have no problem sliding into that role. I doubt they mention anything about his career when they're together so she's blissfully ignorant. Tbh I don't think Graces has any opinions on anything
 
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I wonder if Grace is somewhat sad that she can't show the guy in videos. So many possibilities.
 
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I wonder if Grace is somewhat sad that she can't show the guy in videos. So many possibilities.
I’m not sure how he would fit into video’s with Grace seeing as she spends most of her vlogs with the camera on her face. She must be SO vain under that mild mannered cutsie personality. There’s been so many times when she’s out doing a half-arsed Vlog that if she’d have just turned the camera around and shown us what she’s seeing would’ve made a much more interesting view…..but no we are just constantly forced to look at her face close up for the millionth time.
 
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I really like she’s just going to become a housewife. Fine if that’s what she truly wants but I doubt it is.
 
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Grace isn’t as silly as she comes across, is she? 😂 getting engaged to a future barrister with a rich family as soon as she could.
Criminal barristers actually aren't paid well at all ! After years of studying they often start out on less than £20k for quite a few years... obviously once they're super established they can earn a lot more but it takes 15-20 years to get to that point whereas a solicitor at a US law firm or magic circle will be on £100k + within a couple of years...

She's so very dull what do they have in common at all?! She has the emotional and intellectual range of a bloody teaspoon.
Literally my thoughts entirely - makes me think the only thing they have in common is christianity.
He seems to be quite intellectual and obviously attempting to pursue a career as a criminal barrister to try and make a difference or whatever, meanwhile "Only eating COSTCO food for 24 hours *best day ever*" lmaooo imagine the dinner conversations, what do they even talk about??
feels like a weird arranged marriage vibe
 
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It’s so interesting reading everyone’s thoughts on here! I’ve been a silent follower for a while. I used to love Grace during the lockdowns and found her a breath of fresh air compared to the normal influencer slog. But found I became less interested in her videos as I think she became less interested in making them. But I have such a different opinion than a lot on here. I think it’s all an act. Don’t get me wrong she’s clearly young at heart and a bit childish etc. But I actually think she is far more intelligent than we realise and outside of YouTube has a whole life we know nothing about. I think lots of YouTubers start with showing a little of their life till eventually you know everything about them. Grace is almost like the opposite, I could tell you very little about her other than the tid bits of informations that she lets us know about and even then you don’t always get an update further along. I think she does way more ‘community’ stuff whether church related or not than we will ever know! I must admit she’s irritating these days but I find her probably a little easier to handle than the influencers promoting absolutely unattainable lives for most!
 
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His work profile says his main academic interests were human rights law, international criminal law, and public international law. So it seems that's what he's interested in. I like that he cares more about that than making money in corporate law etc. He was only at Clifford Chance for a week early in his college years so I wouldn't take that as any indication of his interests. He may just be working where he can for now but eventually wants to work for victims.
 
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It’s so interesting reading everyone’s thoughts on here! I’ve been a silent follower for a while. I used to love Grace during the lockdowns and found her a breath of fresh air compared to the normal influencer slog. But found I became less interested in her videos as I think she became less interested in making them. But I have such a different opinion than a lot on here. I think it’s all an act. Don’t get me wrong she’s clearly young at heart and a bit childish etc. But I actually think she is far more intelligent than we realise and outside of YouTube has a whole life we know nothing about. I think lots of YouTubers start with showing a little of their life till eventually you know everything about them. Grace is almost like the opposite, I could tell you very little about her other than the tid bits of informations that she lets us know about and even then you don’t always get an update further along. I think she does way more ‘community’ stuff whether church related or not than we will ever know! I must admit she’s irritating these days but I find her probably a little easier to handle than the influencers promoting absolutely unattainable lives for most!
Tbf the money she wastes on shite, particularly food, is pretty unattainable for most. I appreciate your difference of opinion, it's certainly an interesting take. I'd like the think there is more to her but I genuinely think she's like this 100% of the time. I do think she has a secret mardy hole side though.
 
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It’s so interesting reading everyone’s thoughts on here! I’ve been a silent follower for a while. I used to love Grace during the lockdowns and found her a breath of fresh air compared to the normal influencer slog. But found I became less interested in her videos as I think she became less interested in making them. But I have such a different opinion than a lot on here. I think it’s all an act. Don’t get me wrong she’s clearly young at heart and a bit childish etc. But I actually think she is far more intelligent than we realise and outside of YouTube has a whole life we know nothing about. I think lots of YouTubers start with showing a little of their life till eventually you know everything about them. Grace is almost like the opposite, I could tell you very little about her other than the tid bits of informations that she lets us know about and even then you don’t always get an update further along. I think she does way more ‘community’ stuff whether church related or not than we will ever know! I must admit she’s irritating these days but I find her probably a little easier to handle than the influencers promoting absolutely unattainable lives for most!
What I respect the most about Grace is she has never (to my knowledge) tried to use her platform to promote Christianity or talk about her Christian beliefs very much. She is extremely devout and I imagine that God plays a big part in her life every day and she rarely mentions her faith at all. She volunteers at church a lot and goes to mass every Sunday (even if away from her locality). I just respect that she keeps that away from the camera and isn't trying to convert anyone (like many Christians do).
 
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