I liked a bunch of comments and haven’t been blocked yet I was honestly expecting it thoAnyone else been blocked by Grace for liking a comment on the bbcintroducing post?
I liked a bunch of comments and haven’t been blocked yet I was honestly expecting it thoAnyone else been blocked by Grace for liking a comment on the bbcintroducing post?
bit random / off topic but i used to work as a researcher in the changes that have impacted the charity sector over the past 20 years, and they've taken a huge hit because whereas people used to retire and use their time volunteering/ helping causes, they're now taking on almost full time care for grandkids because the average family simply cannot even begin to cover the costs of childcare!You lot are scaring me now, this is actually outrageous 20k on one kid? How are people supposed to survive with that omfg
it’s absolutely not normal and is not a reflection of what everyone pays at all.It's normal now - our nursery fees for one child are £20,000 a year. But to be fair when Grace was pre-school age, daycare wasn't so much of a thing, and if it was a special bilingual one then even more so. It probably was more unusual for kids to be sent to private nurseries (as opposed to pre-school) back then.
Yeah I'm pretty sure my friends with kids haven't paid anywhere near that for nursery/childcare costs. But that doesn't negate the fact that Grace then went to a private school which you do pay a ton for.it’s absolutely not normal and is not a reflection of what everyone pays at all.
maybe in the south/london, but london isn’t the whole of the uk we pay £6 per week wrap around care which is ffaaaaaAaR from £20k a year when u add it up.
£6 a week for wrap around care? Where on Earth are you? That isn’t even 1 hour minimum wageit’s absolutely not normal and is not a reflection of what everyone pays at all.
maybe in the south/london, but london isn’t the whole of the uk we pay £6 per week wrap around care which is ffaaaaaAaR from £20k a year when u add it up.
Yes we're in the south. Not normal in the sense that everyone pays that - more that it's not uncommon. And Grace did grow up in London so it's relevant. Full time nursery anywhere in the country in 2020 will likely be more than £9,000 (assuming no government help - it sounds like you get some free hours to only pay £6 a week).it’s absolutely not normal and is not a reflection of what everyone pays at all.
maybe in the south/london, but london isn’t the whole of the uk we pay £6 per week wrap around care which is ffaaaaaAaR from £20k a year when u add it up.
just making sure people who don’t have kids aren’t misguided into thinking there is no other option than to pay £20000 a year for childcare it’s important in my view to share all perspectives most people don’t even spend £20000 a year on housing costs, a lot of people don’t even earn £20000 a year and if i had no kids and heard this i’d tit my pants to be honest.Yes we're in the south. Not normal in the sense that everyone pays that - more that it's not uncommon. And Grace did grow up in London so it's relevant. Full time nursery anywhere in the country in 2020 will likely be more than £9,000 (assuming no government help - it sounds like you get some free hours to only pay £6 a week).
(And not sure why you'd compare wrap around care to full time nursery for an under-3 anyway)
Grace can’t separate her sense of self from her businesses. She needs a personal account and a social media manager to manage the business accounts for her brands. It’s as simple as that. A social media manager wouldn’t take it as personally because it’s not their business or their brand.Grace posted a few long and rambling stories about how social media isn’t ‘viable’ unless you have thick skin. She was clearly alluding to the recent ‘hate’ (more like genuine criticism) but let’s see if i get blocked for my reply. Shouldn’t a ‘Boss Babe #girlboss QUEEN’ like Grace use her social media like other CEO’s in her industry (much like other have suggested on this thread) and not pick fights with people in her comments passive aggressively?? View attachment 291181
Yeh when I was a child (a looong time ago) both my parents always worked and my mum's whole salary basically went on childcare.Ngl I don’t have kids and don’t really get what’s going on here but I live in the north and have several friends whose childcare costs for them to actually be able to work full time are equal or nearly equal to their income each month. I thought it was common knowledge that this is why lots of Mums are kinda forced to stay at home because why would you go back to work to barely break even when you can look after your child at home (assuming here most people want to do that anyway).
Not only would Grace’s parents not struggle to pay that, but it sounds like she went to a top end childcare that cost a fortune if it was bilingual and stuff so there is a point to be made there surely, that even her childcare was probably way more involved and educational than the norm?
Grace can’t separate her sense of self from her businesses. She needs a personal account and a social media manager to manage the business accounts for her brands. It’s as simple as that. A social media manager wouldn’t take it as personally because it’s not their business or their brand.
I get where you are coming from but I don't think it's that clear cut. I agree that there are numerous comments that are mean but a lot are really real criticism and people getting angry that their previously kind, polite messages and responses were either met with negligence or immature defensive tactics. On the other hand, where people have been kind in criticizing her, her very immature mindless followers blatantly ignore facts presented to them by literally saying they don't care what the facts are or by saying hateful things to those who were kindly criticizing to begin with, with Grace supporting both kinds of responses by her followers many times (which is why we refer to them as minions). These kinds of responses are what have pushed people into anonymity (all of us here) are onto "exposure" pages because they aren't respected or listened to otherwise. Grace has surrounded herself with people who only support her and agree with her so in fact opening up a dialogue that includes all voices is her problem, not ours. I will gladly speak face to face with her if she wanted to.I do agree with Grace, some comments are a bit too far and can be mean. I am not innocent in this though with comments I made and subsequently deleted. I may not have called her something horrible but the tone of my comment was not one open to discussion but more to tell someone information and demand answers rather than kindly pointing an error out and starting up dialogue in a way that includes all voices. These comments are done in such a way it completely takes away from the critical discussion.
I just think maybe the way that majority of us are going about sharing this information as something to be exposed is not actually getting people to have that very much needed critical conversation. It is creating a divide and people are choosing sides.
Remember some people want Grace to succeed and some people are understandbly upset that seeing her succeed frustrates them (which is not healthy). I won't lie I was definitely on the upset side but that didn't bring me any closer to making a positive impact. I want Grace to succeed so that more young women and men can be inspired to follow in her footsteps and run their own companies in sustainable and ethical way.
Read as: she’s scared of being caught on doing bad thingsLol whats she on about saying shes scared of doing bad things? Shes done so many bad exploitative things idek where to start