Fair enough tbh, I guess it depends on perspective though, like for me at nursery my parents were on benefits living in a council house so it sounds like a wild amount to me, plus its the cost of a year at uni and the fact that 9k back then is more like 15k in 2020. But I’ve not had kids yet or anything so it just sounds wild to me I guessI just want to quickly say to CEO of Woke - the nursery thing isn't such a big deal. I, horrifyingly, will pay over £11k a year for 'wraparound' care for my child at 1. This is because I need to go back to work so I can contribute to my share of the mortgage, and also my work are inflexible about hours. It is my only option - or quit and pay back maternity. I won't have a penny to run together that year! My husband and I do not make a lot of amount of money and we live in a nice, but not fancy, area.
Childcare should be far more subsidised!!!
I honestly don't know why she doesn't move to a private account for family & friends and then have a more business-y public profile, especially since she's constantly banging on about how bad social media is and how she feels like she doesn't want to continue with it.Grace, if you're reading here I'll give you a PR tip for free
Log. Off. Of. Instagram.
Literally just hand your social media over to a social media manager and STOP POSTING COMMENTS ON INSTAGRAM.
Why does she keep claiming she went from zero to hero? Putting all her privilege aside, like literally as an influencer she already had a market set out for her. Since she became an influencer years ago, she's essentially been doing marketing everyday no matter what she posts. The comments defending her are insane and ignorant and they literally scream being proud of ignorance. Does she or anyone who actually listens to her think these tips will actually apply to anyone who isn't an influencer? So embarrassing. Not shocking that BBC is sharing this considering the Tory direction their news side is takingI could not finish watching this video, someone else can give the summary. I couldn't get past the first 20 seconds. She has the audacity to say she was asked to give tips on "how to build a business with no money" ... "TRUST ME I know that". Could they really not have found a business owner who actually built their business up from nothing instead of an Oxford educated rich girl from Kensington?
Exactly. The things you said are why I'm convinced all influencers come from privilege despite their unending attempt at a revolution to show otherwise.I'm no business person but I have a serious issue with this idea that she had no marketing budget and therefore grew her brands with no money. How did she grow her massive audience which she then used 'for free' to grow the brands? How much did she spend on all the content she had to make before she got any free stuff sent to her, her fitness content when she was Grace Fit UK did not look cheap to me. Let's stop pretending that there are no costs involved in growing channels to the audience sizes that she has. Yeah, she might not have had an allocated marketing budget. But getting that audience was not free.
She really thinks she's so smart. She doesn't have to say "she did that herself" for people to assume that. It's so heavily implied that she's only giving tips like this because she did things this way to succeed bc otherwise why would she be here? Would the BBC interview me for what it's like to release a platinum selling album? FFFSshsp. Fine, Grace if you didn't do that yourself who the fuck are you to give advice like that? Tell the BBC to bring in someone else whose actually done it then. Like seriously who do you think you are Grace?WoiiiiView attachment 290431View attachment 290432
Wot a sad cunt saying she had no family help, nahh those 100s of thousands they spent on your education didn’t help at all
I can’t believe Ive tricked her into responding to old ceo of woke
I understand your point of view and where you are coming from, and imho I think this shows how much more humble you are of yourself and the things you put out online compared to Grace. I would agree with you entirely if we were speaking of another person that isn't Grace, but I can't agree with you entirely just based off my personal opinion of Grace and her companies.I do agree with Grace, some comments are a bit too far and can be mean. I am not innocent in this though with comments I made and subsequently deleted. I may not have called her something horrible but the tone of my comment was not one open to discussion but more to tell someone information and demand answers rather than kindly pointing an error out and starting up dialogue in a way that includes all voices. These comments are done in such a way it completely takes away from the critical discussion.
I was able to have a great discussion with a girl tagged in a wearetala post. She reminded me that a lot of the audience might be dipping their toes into the idea of shopping sustainably. There is definitely great value in how Wearetala markets sustainablity as cool and not something to invoke fear. Going from shopping at ASOS, PLT, Boohoo etc. and doing so possibly because your fave influencer is the face of a collection to then trying to understand how that is enabling fast fashion with has major effects on the environment can be quite devastating for a young consumer.
I am just as frustrated as alot of you are, when at my level of knowledge of ethics and sustainability, the facts and evidence are not shared/stated correctly. This is definitely because in their staff, there is lack of these expertise to know the nitty gritty of how things are stated correctly, how one shouldn't put accreditations actually related to suppliers as accreditations as their own, etc. This is definitely a weakness in their company. I do hope that they hire someone that is well-versed and knowledgeable in this regard to help them so that their market can include those with a better understanding of the laws, requirements etc.
I just think maybe the way that majority of us are going about sharing this information as something to be exposed is not actually getting people to have that very much needed critical conversation. It is creating a divide and people are choosing sides.
Remember some people want Grace to succeed and some people are understandbly upset that seeing her succeed frustrates them (which is not healthy). I won't lie I was definitely on the upset side but that didn't bring me any closer to making a positive impact. I want Grace to succeed so that more young women and men can be inspired to follow in her footsteps and run their own companies in sustainable and ethical way.
I think it was also a bilingual nursery wasn’t it, where they were “immersed” in English and French. Which is definitely not the usual experience for 3 year olds.That is a very standard amount to pay for nursery in the south, they are hugely expensive so I wouldn’t really stay on that, all of her private schools after that though and holidays and where she grew up is more relevant
I feel so poor lol I had no idea this was normal, it seems so much to me. Tbf we grew up more broke than the average family so I probably have a quite a skewed perspective on it hahaThat is a very standard amount to pay for nursery in the south, they are hugely expensive so I wouldn’t really stay on that, all of her private schools after that though and holidays and where she grew up is more relevant
I get what you’re saying but trust, if you genuinely try to open dialogue with grace she just dismisses it as hate, or deletes / ignores it.I do agree with Grace, some comments are a bit too far and can be mean. I am not innocent in this though with comments I made and subsequently deleted. I may not have called her something horrible but the tone of my comment was not one open to discussion but more to tell someone information and demand answers rather than kindly pointing an error out and starting up dialogue in a way that includes all voices. These comments are done in such a way it completely takes away from the critical discussion.
I was able to have a great discussion with a girl tagged in a wearetala post. She reminded me that a lot of the audience might be dipping their toes into the idea of shopping sustainably. There is definitely great value in how Wearetala markets sustainablity as cool and not something to invoke fear. Going from shopping at ASOS, PLT, Boohoo etc. and doing so possibly because your fave influencer is the face of a collection to then trying to understand how that is enabling fast fashion with has major effects on the environment can be quite devastating for a young consumer.
I am just as frustrated as alot of you are, when at my level of knowledge of ethics and sustainability, the facts and evidence are not shared/stated correctly. This is definitely because in their staff, there is lack of these expertise to know the nitty gritty of how things are stated correctly, how one shouldn't put accreditations actually related to suppliers as accreditations as their own, etc. This is definitely a weakness in their company. I do hope that they hire someone that is well-versed and knowledgeable in this regard to help them so that their market can include those with a better understanding of the laws, requirements etc.
I just think maybe the way that majority of us are going about sharing this information as something to be exposed is not actually getting people to have that very much needed critical conversation. It is creating a divide and people are choosing sides.
Remember some people want Grace to succeed and some people are understandbly upset that seeing her succeed frustrates them (which is not healthy). I won't lie I was definitely on the upset side but that didn't bring me any closer to making a positive impact. I want Grace to succeed so that more young women and men can be inspired to follow in her footsteps and run their own companies in sustainable and ethical way.
It's normal now - our nursery fees for one child are £20,000 a year. But to be fair when Grace was pre-school age, daycare wasn't so much of a thing, and if it was a special bilingual one then even more so. It probably was more unusual for kids to be sent to private nurseries (as opposed to pre-school) back then.I feel so poor lol I had no idea this was normal, it seems so much to me. Tbf we grew up more broke than the average family so I probably have a quite a skewed perspective on it haha
That is day light robbery!! The worst thing is I know quite a few nurses and older school teachers and they are not the brightest so god help the future generationIt's normal now - our nursery fees for one child are £20,000 a year. But to be fair when Grace was pre-school age, daycare wasn't so much of a thing, and if it was a special bilingual one then even more so. It probably was more unusual for kids to be sent to private nurseries (as opposed to pre-school) back then.
You lot are scaring me now, this is actually outrageous 20k on one kid? How are people supposed to survive with that omfgIt's normal now - our nursery fees for one child are £20,000 a year. But to be fair when Grace was pre-school age, daycare wasn't so much of a thing, and if it was a special bilingual one then even more so. It probably was more unusual for kids to be sent to private nurseries (as opposed to pre-school) back then.
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