Giles Coren - offensive, diminutive, entitled

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The obit was posted on the website yesterday afternoon, after Private Eye pointed out that there was none, and a full three weeks after her death. It got her age wrong. I DESPAIR I REALLY DO!!
 
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RIP Dawn. The obituary is disingenuous in the way it glosses over the crappy way that the Guardian treated her but it does make her sound heroic. I love the earlier suggestion (I think on Twitter) that she is posthumously messing with Giles and cancelling him from the afterlife (let’s hope so).
 
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Dawn's wiki said she was born in '86. & FWIW, her good friend Juliet Jacques wrote an obit of her and said she was 34. Apparently Dawn's Guardian obit was written by people who knew and were friends with her & aren't Grauniad staff. How that paper has behaved about this whole thing is very odd. She was a brilliant reporter, covering elements of the housing crisis that just aren't well understood. Don't know why they couldn't honour that promptly, despite their role in sacking her.

On topic - Giles - ashamed to say that I used to enjoy his writing but everything he does these days seems to be posinous and bitter. & he's clearly got some deep-seated issues.
 
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Giles called Renen Redzepi (of Noma) a “mouse-faced bleep” after he criticised him in 2010.


If being a dick head or having a thin skin was an Olympic sport Giles would be on a podium in Tokyo with a gold medal around his neck.
 
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He’s such a bizarre person. I mean, he’s only a food critic. That’s it. He’s not solving world poverty, or splitting atoms. He just puts down words and pushes them around a bit, but without the talent or incision of his Pa. He’s irrelevant really yet the way he goes on you’d think he was the victim of some awful crimes against humanity.
He’s a raging alcoholic right? There’s no other explanation for his bizarre Twitter rants, other than being an outright plonker.
 
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Giles is such an inferior critic compared to the late A.A. Gill. Love or loathe him he was incredibly talented with words. I recommend his book Pour Me very highly.
 
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Dawn's wiki said she was born in '86. & FWIW, her good friend Juliet Jacques wrote an obit of her and said she was 34.
So you mean to say she *was* actually 34 and all this time I've been annoyed over nothing?! How unlike me 🥴🥴
 
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He’s such a bizarre person. I mean, he’s only a food critic. That’s it. He’s not solving world poverty, or splitting atoms. He just puts down words and pushes them around a bit, but without the talent or incision of his Pa. He’s irrelevant really yet the way he goes on you’d think he was the victim of some awful crimes against humanity.
He’s a raging alcoholic right? There’s no other explanation for his bizarre Twitter rants, other than being an outright plonker.
Absolutely this. He is only a food critic, and only even has THAT job because of who his father was.
 
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Does whether Dawn was 33 or 34 really matter so much? Either way it’s bloody young to die, and horrific that Giles Coren mocked her death.
 
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It matters when writing an obit, yes. But agreed, this is a thread about Coren, not Foster.
 
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Poor little Giles is the underachiever in his family. His Father was brilliant, his mother is/was apparently a consultant eye specialist at Moorfields Hospital. Even his sister has her own TV show and is a world class poker player. Giles, well Giles eats his dinner and writes about it and, er, that’s it. The only thing he truly excels at in his own right is being obnoxious.
 
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More evidence that Giles is telling porkies about his height. Former model Nicola Formby, the late wife of A. A. Gill, is 5 ft 10, which makes her just one inch taller than Giles who says he is 5 ft 9.

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And yet appears to be exactly the same height as his co-host Monica Galetti, who is 5 ft 6.

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Giles is such an inferior critic compared to the late A.A. Gill. Love or loathe him he was incredibly talented with words. I recommend his book Pour Me very highly.
agree, used to love his columns (although disagreed with a lot of his views!!). A.A. Gill would have been a lot of fun to have dinner with. Giles? no thank you
 
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Dawn's wiki said she was born in '86. & FWIW, her good friend Juliet Jacques wrote an obit of her and said she was 34. Apparently Dawn's Guardian obit was written by people who knew and were friends with her & aren't Grauniad staff. How that paper has behaved about this whole thing is very odd. She was a brilliant reporter, covering elements of the housing crisis that just aren't well understood. Don't know why they couldn't honour that promptly, despite their role in sacking her.

On topic - Giles - ashamed to say that I used to enjoy his writing but everything he does these days seems to be posinous and bitter. & he's clearly got some deep-seated issues.
Bloody disgusting that as Dawn said she was sacked by the Grauniad for criticising Tom Watson of all people.

He was very vocal about Murdoch 's influence over the media and politicians. Sanctimonious hypocrite.

On topic: Giles Coren is a horrible scrote.
 
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After all the unseemly accusations of nepotism, it’s great to see the Times has found a new restaurant reviewer while angry, little Giles Coren is ‘away’. It’s … Esther Walker.

However, it seems The Times haven’t turned on the pre-mods like they did with Giles’ articles as there seems to be quite a few negative comments.

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Esther admitting she has to play referee between her husband and her children in public to the point of needing to throw money to smooth it over, jfc.

No sympathy for a woman who happily ‘confessed’ (in a paid newspaper column) a big part of her attraction to her husband was his huge London home. As the saying goes, marry for money, earn every penny.
 

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He’s deeply unpleasant.
I find his marriage fascinating. It’s doesn’t seem as though he has a public head person and at home he is submissive/quiet/devoted spouse and father.

He seems complex, very hard work and entirely joyless to live with. And also it comes across as though he wears this odious behaviour as a badge of pride. A sign of intelligence and superiority that sets him above the plebs that sully his existence in this world.

Is the money really enough? There must be more to it surely?

I left a financially stable marriage as home life became horrendous and my kids were suffering. I’m really struggling getting back into work, having been a SAHM for so long. I don’t regret leaving ever. Surely Esther has no financial issues if she leaves. What pleasure can she get out of being with him? Isn’t she embarrassed by him?

What do you think is the attraction?
 
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Esther admitting she has to play referee between her husband and her children in public to the point of needing to throw money to smooth it over, jfc.

No sympathy for a woman who happily ‘confessed’ (in a paid newspaper column) a big part of her attraction to her husband was his huge London home. As the saying goes, marry for money, earn every penny.
It seems like he has a very volatile temper...I’d guess their house is often an unpleasant place to be with Giles raging at the kids and wife about minor issues.

He’s deeply unpleasant.
I find his marriage fascinating. It’s doesn’t seem as though he has a public head person and at home he is submissive/quiet/devoted spouse and father.

He seems complex, very hard work and entirely joyless to live with. And also it comes across as though he wears this odious behaviour as a badge of pride. A sign of intelligence and superiority that sets him above the plebs that sully his existence in this world.

Is the money really enough? There must be more to it surely?

I left a financially stable marriage as home life became horrendous and my kids were suffering. I’m really struggling getting back into work, having been a SAHM for so long. I don’t regret leaving ever. Surely Esther has no financial issues if she leaves. What pleasure can she get out of being with him? Isn’t she embarrassed by him?

What do you think is the attraction?
I think part of the initial attraction would also be Giles’ journalism career (and that of his father) - Esther was a failed writer but her connections now have writing for The Times.
 
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I think part of the initial attraction would also be Giles’ journalism career (and that of his father) - Esther was a failed writer but her connections now have writing for The Times.
Yes I didn’t think of that. You’d think that draw would have faded now though.
 
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There’s that line in the film I, Tonya by Tonya’s mother that in every relationship there is a flower and a gardener.

Let’s go with that idea. I would say in my own marriage I think we swap those roles depending on the circumstances and situation.. it ebbs and flows, and perhaps that’s true of many relationships?

However. I also think there are extreme flowers and extreme gardeners and these types are attracted to each other like magnets. Neither could be with anyone other than an extreme of the other type and they both stay true to type in all situations and over the years. And I think that’s Giles and Esther.
 
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