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I wouldn't date a transman but if I said that publicly I would get slaughtered.

My husband and I had an argument yesterday as I was being "aggressive" about this. I am angry about the erasure of women. Anyway, I quite crudely asked if he would duck a transwoman because if not, apparently you are transphobic. He didn't know what to say.
 
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I am a huge Taylor fan and am SO disappointed she is supporting this extreme movement (The Equality Act that she is fighting for is dangerous and will allow all we have discussed in the USA).




This upsets me a lot as a bio woman.
I've been doing my research the past few days and much of this movement upsets me and it is disappointing that Taylor is supporting it. Has she even researched the erasure of women that is happening because of it?

- An Endometriosis charity announced they should no longer use "gendered language." No longer saying women in regards to endo. WTF. Notice this isn't happening to men?? They're not saying the prostate cancer community should drop gendered language. In fact, a cancer charity in the UK when talking about pap smears said it will not say "women" with a cervix, instead "everybody." Yet, for their prostate cancer campaigns, they still referred to it as a "male/men" cancer.

- At doctor's offices on posters for the "female reproductive system" they now blank out the word "female" so it just says "reproductive system." They are not doing this to men's posters.

- The Scottish government is trying to pass a self-id law. When someone currently wants to transition, they need a medical/psyc examination.
With this new bill, there would be no evaluation. They could just go online and fill in a form to change their gender/sex on their ID. They want to lower the age from 18-16.

- Civil service in the UK says they are now avoiding using the word "women" when referring to "menstruating." It is now acceptable to refer to women as "menstruaters" instead of gender. We are not referring to men as "ejaculators."


- Women are scared to speak out because we are labeled transphobic or a TERF. We are wanting to protect our laws and rights that we fought for. They are literally being erased to appease a group of people who want to be recognized as "women" but don't support our rights.... How does that make any sense? Now they also say it isn't just women that get pregnant, men can too. In fact, I read that now nurses are calling "breastfeeding" "chestfeeding" as breast is not inclusive. WTF.

I read this earlier (maybe a repeat for some): There is a word for a situation where women talking about female bodies is considered impermissibly antisocial, where describing the consequences of sexism for women is systematically impeded, where resources for women are redistributed to male users while resources for men are left in male hands, and where “male” and “female” are rigidly associated with masculinity and femininity. That word is not “progressive”, “liberal” or any of the other terms usually associated with trans activism. The word is misogyny. Trans rights should not come at the cost of women’s fragile gains.

I apologise for my rant but, I really struggle to accept Taylor supporting this extreme movement. Would she actually be OKAY with any of the above?? Why is she SO supportive of the radical trans movement? To gain new fans? To be "woke"? Much of what I listed above, I have said already on here but I want to group it all together to show how radical this movement is in the erasure of women.
I honestly believe that most people just believe they are being inclusive. I certainly used to think that. And how would anyone look for other information now when it’s so clear that anyone who believes that women are discriminated against due to their biological sex (and might want to ensure that the law still recognises and protects against that discrimination) is a transphobe?
 
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I honestly believe that most people just believe they are being inclusive. I certainly used to think that. And how would anyone look for other information now when it’s so clear that anyone who believes that women are discriminated against due to their biological sex (and might want to ensure that the law still recognises and protects against that discrimination) is a transphobe?
With the likes of celebrities, I believe they are just trying to stay relevant to their audience because saying otherwise would have a damaging affect on their career/reputation. A bad reputation is hard to recover from.
 
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I wouldn't date a transman but if I said that publicly I would get slaughtered.

My husband and I had an argument yesterday as I was being "aggressive" about this. I am angry about the erasure of women. Anyway, I quite crudely asked if he would duck a transwoman because if not, apparently you are transphobic. He didn't know what to say.
Because he meant no.

That’s not cool about Glinner and the photos. He’s gone right down in my estimation.
 
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I’ve always been very liberal about the trans thing but when I saw the abuse against lesbians for not wanting to date pre-op transexual women I just thought “hang on a sec” and did a bit of research. I thought at times Glinner could be a bit OTT/abusive but I thought he was mostly talking perfect sense. On a side note just seen this, obvs they’ll use this as a stick to beat him with:
bleeping hell, he did WHAT?

Now it’s been pretty clear to me that he’s been struggling mentally. His marriage seems to have broken up. But sending fool pics? Just even shows that even the most supportive looking male allies aren’t exempt from exhibiting the usual disgusting male behaviour.

Edit: has the thread been deleted? I can’t find it and wanted to see him getting his a handed to him.
 
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I’ve always been very liberal about the trans thing but when I saw the abuse against lesbians for not wanting to date pre-op transexual women I just thought “hang on a sec” and did a bit of research. I thought at times Glinner could be a bit OTT/abusive but I thought he was mostly talking perfect sense. On a side note just seen this, obvs they’ll use this as a stick to beat him with:
So disappointing. Makes you feel you can’t truly trust any man.
 
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I’ve always been very liberal about the trans thing but when I saw the abuse against lesbians for not wanting to date pre-op transexual women I just thought “hang on a sec” and did a bit of research. I thought at times Glinner could be a bit OTT/abusive but I thought he was mostly talking perfect sense. On a side note just seen this, obvs they’ll use this as a stick to beat him with:
I respect a man like that, who recognizes that what he did was wrong and learns from it. To me it shows growth and understanding of us
 
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Sorry, no. He would have been perfectly aware that it was wrong long before he hit “send”.
See I'm torn on this - on one hand it truly is disgusting behaviour and he most likely knew it was wrong. On the other hand I don't see many men that have done this acknowledging that it was wrong and apologizing. I'm probably being too nice.

I wouldn't date a transman but if I said that publicly I would get slaughtered.

My husband and I had an argument yesterday as I was being "aggressive" about this. I am angry about the erasure of women. Anyway, I quite crudely asked if he would duck a transwoman because if not, apparently you are transphobic. He didn't know what to say.
I agree with this completely. I asked my OH what he thought of all this and he said he didn't have an opinion probably because it doesn't affect him/or doesn't care that much about it. They will only care when it affects them.
 
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woooww they'll really make up anything
Frightening how powerful the trans activist are.

I’ve always been very liberal about the trans thing but when I saw the abuse against lesbians for not wanting to date pre-op transexual women I just thought “hang on a sec” and did a bit of research. I thought at times Glinner could be a bit OTT/abusive but I thought he was mostly talking perfect sense. On a side note just seen this, obvs they’ll use this as a stick to beat him with:
fool pics are fake news xx
 

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So on reddit a transperson asked me why I'm Gender critical, I tried to explain myself as calmly and respectfully as possible: why isn't men's health literature changing to call men pen people for example... crickets.
 
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Such a relief that the screenshots are fake. My faith in men was hanging by its last thread!
 
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sooo apparently after taking hormones you're brain chemistry changes and you develop a hormonal cycle and that's why period aren't just about blood ladies didn't you know???
 
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