Gender Discussions #5

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i'm pissed off. i know so many gay men on twitter who posted whenever black people were murdered in america (as they bloody should!) and post whenever lgbtq people were killed (as they should!) but have stayed completely silent on the topic of sarah everard. not even a rest in peace.
Same. It’s infuriating. Especially since they believe “trans women are women” so by that logic, surely they should absolutely care since women’s issues=trans issues from their point of view. The gay and lgbt allies I know haven’t even bothered to say anything to somehow make it about trans women. Just silence whilst numerous women around them speak up. Speaks volumes, imo. Especially when they claim to be so called feminists.
 
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I think my final peaking moment was seeing an FGM survivor on twitter being repeatedly told that she can't use the word 'Female' because she wasn't cut because of her sex, she was cut because of her gender.
wtfffff so she would have been cut in the same way if she had male genitalia? in what way does this make ANY sense?!
 
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I think Caitlin Moran (who I can't stand) deleting her tweet about having a womb because she got stick for using the word womb 'you're excluding trans women who don't have a womb' was a low point. There was discussion on her thread about it but I stayed out of it because there's posters I like and interact with on other threads but it's depressing that a woman can't even talk about *her* experience without being scolded and without having to issue a grovelling apology
 
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exactly, if anything they were/are overly sexualised as women. I just don't understand any of this, but I guess it is pointless trying to reason with it tbh
I saw this somewhere...an article or a YT video...and it pointed out that white Disney heroines are rarely sexualised but poc ones often are. I think some more recent Disney films are better on this (Princess & frog/ moana) but definitely tiger lily, pocahontas, jasmine, esmerelda all have a sexualness about them. I'm not saying Disney heroines ought not to have any sexuality/ sensuality to them but its ducked up that who is or isn't portrayed a certain way is based on historic racial tropes like that.
 
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But it's also telling Eddie thinks this and shows the worth he places on 'older women'. But what would you expect from a AGP fetishist who uses words like 'girl mode' and 'boob envy'
Exactly - the worth he places on women is centred around fuckability. That’s it. That’s all women have to offer. When that’s gone, they’re indistinguishable from blokes. Unbelievable.

I think Caitlin Moran (who I can't stand) deleting her tweet about having a womb because she got stick for using the word womb 'you're excluding trans women who don't have a womb' was a low point. There was discussion on her thread about it but I stayed out of it because there's posters I like and interact with on other threads but it's depressing that a woman can't even talk about *her* experience without being scolded and without having to issue a grovelling apology
CM always kowtows to the trans crowd. It’s embarrassing.
 
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I think my final peaking moment was seeing an FGM survivor on twitter being repeatedly told that she can't use the word 'Female' because she wasn't cut because of her sex, she was cut because of her gender.
Read this thread, TRAs defacing the activist work to protest the violence women face especially in big cities in France, and they defaced it because it didn't include them. I've lived in anglophone countries and i'd wager the sexism/sexual assault/assault in france is perhaps worse/more brushed aside. This was in Paris which is for the most part the only place where TRA activism has had growth here.
 
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I think Caitlin Moran (who I can't stand) deleting her tweet about having a womb because she got stick for using the word womb 'you're excluding trans women who don't have a womb' was a low point. There was discussion on her thread about it but I stayed out of it because there's posters I like and interact with on other threads but it's depressing that a woman can't even talk about *her* experience without being scolded and without having to issue a grovelling apology
yeah really, don't like her either, but this is absurd. Would trans people tweet including non trans women in their experience? doesn't seem like they do. It is also the aggressive "calling out" which I dislike, there are nice ways to correct people (if you want to) but it is all just so angry
 
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yeah really, don't like her either, but this is absurd. Would trans people tweet including non trans women in their experience? doesn't seem like they do. It is also the aggressive "calling out" which I dislike, there are nice ways to correct people (if you want to) but it is all just so angry
not to mention, men advocate more for trans women then trans men. But the woke bros don't care about them
 
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The trans rights movement is an MRA movement

Eddie's quote was something like 'visually there's not much difference between older men and older women so it does get easier'
 
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Eddie's quote was something like 'visually there's not much difference between older men and older women so it does get easier'
This really proves that a lot of them genuinely think putting on make up and a dress aka what they think 'looks' like a woman is what it takes to 'be' a woman. So basically against everything we've said for a long time. ~ Visually ~ even if that were true it doesn't matter, you are still a man.
 
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The trans rights movement is an MRA movement

Eddie's quote was something like 'visually there's not much difference between older men and older women so it does get easier'
because clearly only the visual aspect is what makes you a woman or man... jesus
 
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Someone actually replied to me on twitter saying “trans people are murdered in MUCH HIGHER numbers!” 🤯
There have thankfully been no murders of trans people in the past two years. Celebrate that. Don’t lie about it because boohoo you’re missing out on some oppression.
 
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I normally just lurk here reading this thread but I saw something on tiktok earlier that I had to let you guys hear:

So it was a video of a trans woman (probably no older than 25) talking about how she'd had a call from her GP surgery asking if she wanted to be put on the register for cervical screening. She (thankfully) asked them why they'd put her on the register when she doesn't have a cervix and they said it's because people get offended if they're not offered:mad: Thank god she was in agreement that it was utterly ridiculous and taking away valuable resources from real women! What a waste of the NHS's time and money!

I'm going to try and find the video to share it here but honestly what a bleeping joke pandering to these people!
 
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I think my final peaking moment was seeing an FGM survivor on twitter being repeatedly told that she can't use the word 'Female' because she wasn't cut because of her sex, she was cut because of her gender.
Was it Hibo Wardere? She is amazing. She shares her horrific experiences, wanting nothing more than to educate people about FGM. Her stories are painful to read.

She gets so much abuse from men who say “what about male circumcision? That’s bad too!” and she simply says “you go ahead and campaign then 🤷‍♀️

I’ll share one of her Twitter threads but don’t read if you think you’ll find it triggering.

 
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Was it Hibo Wardere? She is amazing. She shares her horrific experiences, wanting nothing more than to educate people about FGM. Her stories are painful to read.

She gets so much abuse from men who say “what about male circumcision? That’s bad too!” and she simply says “you go ahead and campaign then 🤷‍♀️

I’ll share one of her Twitter threads but don’t read if you think you’ll find it triggering.

I hate the comparison with male circumcision and female FGM, anyone who knows anything about either woukld never compare the two. How awful for her to go though such a horrifiic experience and then have to justifiy herself to morons
 
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I normally just lurk here reading this thread but I saw something on tiktok earlier that I had to let you guys hear:

So it was a video of a trans woman (probably no older than 25) talking about how she'd had a call from her GP surgery asking if she wanted to be put on the register for cervical screening. She (thankfully) asked them why they'd put her on the register when she doesn't have a cervix and they said it's because people get offended if they're not offered:mad: Thank god she was in agreement that it was utterly ridiculous and taking away valuable resources from real women! What a waste of the NHS's time and money!

I'm going to try and find the video to share it here but honestly what a bleeping joke pandering to these people!
I saw that video on Tiktok! The transwoman said it was a massive waste of NHS time even making the phone call, let alone inviting a (post op) transwoman to come for cervical screening. Apparently the reply was “we have to ask, because transwomen don’t like to be left out”.

And then, THEN, in the comments, a woman reminded the transwoman that she needed to be mindful of criticising other transwomen... 🤦‍♀️
 
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