I still don’t get the concept of non binary. It seems to be that some days they wear women’s clothes and some days they wear men’s clothes, and they think that somehow makes them special and unique?
Apparently non-binary sits under the trans umbrella which I don't really understand either.I still don’t get the concept of non binary. It seems to be that some days they wear women’s clothes and some days they wear men’s clothes, and they think that somehow makes them special and unique?
#I think a lot of the "individuals with cervixes" talk is designed to reach women who "don't identify" as women and might otherwise think it irrelevant to them. I guess that's not a problem with home tests, as they will just post it to women regardless of "gender identity"/"pronouns"
This is the thing, transgender I can actually understand in a way... I don’t believe that a man can ever truly be a woman.. but I can understand it and accept them.. non binary is just a minefield that I do not understand, and it tends to just be a personality traitI've said on former threads that if someone identifies as non binary I know I won't be able to have a reasonable conversation with them. I have a non binary acquaintance who was great fun in their former self but is now just so boring and self important and bristling with victimhood. Being around someone like that is exhausting, having to watch every word you say and not being able to relax in case you cause offence
They're very good at this aren't they? Nothing is ever their fault ...Yeah I know those kinds of people too, I definitely think it's supposed to be threatening because it does feel like it, but if you say that to them they can just say "I'm only saying your name, how is that threatening?" So sly
I’m not sure if I’ve miss understood your question, but I think what the previous poster was getting to was, trans men for example don’t see themselves as women, but they do have a cervix and would need smear tests#
Genuine question. Surely, if that is their status, they don't need smear tests?
Gender is a personalityThis is the thing, transgender I can actually understand in a way... I don’t believe that a man can ever truly be a woman.. but I can understand it and accept them.. non binary is just a minefield that I do not understand, and it tends to just be a personality trait
No, gender is ‘either the male or female division of a species’ gender and sex are not as separate as many like to make out. Ofcourse there are also gender stereotypes which is a different topicGender is a personality
Sex is not
It really is that simple
Honestly, I think this change in language has nothing to do with trans men or non binary and everything to do with trans women so they don't feel excluded. In the last thread someone posted a Reddit screenshot of someone being pulled up on the use of 'biological women' as it makes trans women feel invalidated.I think Witch meant that it’s so women who are now identifying as trans men or NB aren’t excluded... so they DO still have a cervix but don’t want to be in the woman group. But obv there is the whole other issue of trans women (bio men) who will feel ‘left out’ when they read about women having a cervix and needing a smear EYE ROLL! I wonder if any trans men feel offended when they can’t get a prostate screening. Doubtful.
What pisses me off about this is that.. they tell us (as in the general population) that they are who they say they are, that they are women (focusing on trans women here) but then they also are allowed to tell us what we are? As in they tell biological men and women that we are cis, (and the word biological isn’t allowed) and to reject that is to be transphobic.. so they’re allowed to define themselves, but we aren’t allowed to define ourselves?Honestly, I think this change in language has nothing to do with trans men or non binary and everything to do with trans women so they don't feel excluded. In the last thread someone posted a Reddit screenshot of someone being pulled up on the use of 'biological women' as it makes trans women feel invalidated.
Oh I would agree but for the purposes of gender ideology, gender is a personality trait. If you express yourself a certain way (gender personality etc) it should not mean you are the exact same as womenNo, gender is ‘either the male or female division of a species’ gender and sex are not as separate as many like to make out. Ofcourse there are also gender stereotypes which is a different topic
Oh I get you haha sorry I thought you were arguing against what I saidOh I would agree but for the purposes of gender ideology, gender is a personality trait. If you express yourself a certain way (gender personality etc) it should not mean you are the exact same as women