No wonder they weren’t keen to provide the data in courtI know it’s pretty bad form to quote yourself but I’m coming back with receipts, because I just saw this on Twitter - according to data from the Tavistock, all but one of the children studied (admittedly a small group, but that’s to be expected) moved onto cross sex hormones after commencing puberty blockers. Puberty blockers aren’t a harmless pause button but the first step towards cross sex hormones in 98% of cases.
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The Tavistock argued that puberty blockers and cross sex hormones are not linked but that’s bull.
Tavistock puberty blocker study published after nine years
The study by the Tavistock gender clinic shows all but one child was also later given cross-sex hormones.www.bbc.co.uk
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Feel free to use that derogatory bigoted term but don't assume all identify with it or that it needs to be used in order to 'differentiate'.
Sorry, but im confused. Does this not mean then that these children who were experiencing dysphoria, the reason genuinely was that they were trans? Therefore went on to transition.I know it’s pretty bad form to quote yourself but I’m coming back with receipts, because I just saw this on Twitter - according to data from the Tavistock, all but one of the children studied (admittedly a small group, but that’s to be expected) moved onto cross sex hormones after commencing puberty blockers. Puberty blockers aren’t a harmless pause button but the first step towards cross sex hormones in 98% of cases.
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The Tavistock argued that puberty blockers and cross sex hormones are not linked but that’s bull.
Tavistock puberty blocker study published after nine years
The study by the Tavistock gender clinic shows all but one child was also later given cross-sex hormones.
How is cis derogatory?
There already is a word for someone that's not trans and that is woman. (Or man)
Cis reduces women to subcategories of our own sex and is totally and utterly unnecessary.
Cis reduces women to subcategories of our own sex and is totally and utterly unnecessary.
I hate the term cis. Yet it is forced upon me.
If any other oppressed group expressed a dislike of a term it would be dropped and deemed hate speech to use it. Yet cis-woman is still shoved down our throats
If any other oppressed group expressed a dislike of a term it would be dropped and deemed hate speech to use it. Yet cis-woman is still shoved down our throats
It’s on “othering” term. It’s purile, linguistic dance designed to erode the ownership of identity of “women/woman” solely for adult, human females to now become an umbrella term for anyone who wants to claim it. I don’t want transwomen sharing my identity because it has ramifications on necessary, legal protections afforded to me as a woman because of physical and historical disadvantages.
Why are trans identities more important than non-trans ones?
Would be great if someone was brave enough to bring that in to the UK also
Really?? It becomes derogatory when groups label other groups outside of their own with unecessary labels. Its been shoved in face of heterosexual females and created by people who are not heterosexual females. We've been fighting male patriachry for centuries and their dominant hold and now more domineering condescending crap from other groups.
Adding to what others have said, I don’t like the term ‘cisgender’ because it supposedly means being ‘comfortable with your gender identity’. I wouldn’t say I’m ‘comfortable’ with my gender. I don’t feel I really have a ‘gender’. I just know I am a woman. I know I am female and my life is shaped around that experience, not because of a ‘gender identity’. It’s so rude to be called something that imposes an identity on me that I don’t have have or agree with. I am a woman. That’s it. I don’t ‘identify’ as anything.
I also think it's used as a slur to make women feel small
It does rather feel that way to me.
I’ve never heard “cis men” used with anywhere near the same prevalence as “cis women”
Anyone who is on the fence and doesn't see the problem with gender ideology should have a read of this:
metrovoicenews.com
Convicted pedophile released, ‘no longer deemed threat’ because he says he’s a woman - Metro Voice News
The Des Moines Register reports a pedophile “convicted of sex crimes as a man, felon no longer deemed threat because of gender change.”
metrovoicenews.com
Agreed, but not just heterosexual.
This will probably be marked as hate speech or something but blah, I'm going to spout my opinion while I'm still allowed. I've just found this thread and will be sitting down to read most of it shortly.
I'm not transphobic. Each to their own, be happy live your lives. But when it effects other people's lives that is when things go too far.
I feel that men have always had their patriarchal power over women. As soon as women became (almost) equal to men in terms of power, they go and take our 'womanhood' too. It feels like another way of asserting their power over us.
They have grown up in this world with male privilege and it shows. They will never ever totally understand what it is to be a woman. Why pretend? Why not form a whole new gender? What's wrong with being trans?
I'm sick of companies and charities being 'woke' and conforming to this new ideology which appears to want to eradicate naturally born vaginas. I'm sick of entering a woman's toilet with my daughters to have men in there. I'm sick that at a breastfeeding support group trans men are allowed with their dolls to get feeding support. The groups exist to help the baby and the mother with feeding. Women were leaving the groups with their baby to get formula to feed their baby because they didn't get adequate support or feel like they could receive help due to feeling vulnerable. The group failed because they felt the need to confirm to this new movement to keep a group of entitled people happy.
IF these trans people really did know what it felt to be a woman they would NOT go to spaces or services which they do NOT need to attend. There's zero reason why a trans person should need to attend a breastfeeding support class. They don't have the bleeding nipples or the screaming baby or a baby that needs help with nutrition... What is next? I'm guessing birthing suites will have beds taken so they can pretend to give birth while a real woman in labour is brushed aside because the NHS want to send a message that they accept anyone can give birth.....except real pregnant women obviously.
Anyway sorry that was so long.
I'm not transphobic. Each to their own, be happy live your lives. But when it effects other people's lives that is when things go too far.
I feel that men have always had their patriarchal power over women. As soon as women became (almost) equal to men in terms of power, they go and take our 'womanhood' too. It feels like another way of asserting their power over us.
They have grown up in this world with male privilege and it shows. They will never ever totally understand what it is to be a woman. Why pretend? Why not form a whole new gender? What's wrong with being trans?
I'm sick of companies and charities being 'woke' and conforming to this new ideology which appears to want to eradicate naturally born vaginas. I'm sick of entering a woman's toilet with my daughters to have men in there. I'm sick that at a breastfeeding support group trans men are allowed with their dolls to get feeding support. The groups exist to help the baby and the mother with feeding. Women were leaving the groups with their baby to get formula to feed their baby because they didn't get adequate support or feel like they could receive help due to feeling vulnerable. The group failed because they felt the need to confirm to this new movement to keep a group of entitled people happy.
IF these trans people really did know what it felt to be a woman they would NOT go to spaces or services which they do NOT need to attend. There's zero reason why a trans person should need to attend a breastfeeding support class. They don't have the bleeding nipples or the screaming baby or a baby that needs help with nutrition... What is next? I'm guessing birthing suites will have beds taken so they can pretend to give birth while a real woman in labour is brushed aside because the NHS want to send a message that they accept anyone can give birth.....except real pregnant women obviously.
Anyway sorry that was so long.
I think there’s a fundamental shift in the trans movement from medical dysphoria to a gender free-for-all, which tends to boil down to how someone presents themselves to others and sexual preferences/kinks.
The biggest problem with this, of course, is legislative imposition. You are legally requiring people to be complicit with what is effectively cosplay AND compromising women’s rights - necessary rights to protect from the physical and societal disadvantages faced - in the process by opening the gates to the wolves the legislation was designed for in order to keep them out. It’s literal misogyny.
The biggest problem with this, of course, is legislative imposition. You are legally requiring people to be complicit with what is effectively cosplay AND compromising women’s rights - necessary rights to protect from the physical and societal disadvantages faced - in the process by opening the gates to the wolves the legislation was designed for in order to keep them out. It’s literal misogyny.
Cis is 100% about control and patriarchy. It’s another hoop for us to jump through. And one that says we’re doing things wrong if we don’t adhere to certain standards. I hate it.
Also this idea that we’re all comfortable in our bodies is such bull. Women are shamed no matter how we look and 1/3 of us have been sexually abused or assaulted. Again it’s such a male bull notion of imaginary female privilege.
Also this idea that we’re all comfortable in our bodies is such bull. Women are shamed no matter how we look and 1/3 of us have been sexually abused or assaulted. Again it’s such a male bull notion of imaginary female privilege.
I hate we are labelled as ignorant and hateful because we are a subcategory of our birth sex, have to be accepting about having our identities and rights stripped from us. Erm surely it's more ignorant to barge in with male privilege, identify as a woman yet not fully take on the role of a woman. I bet none are happy to take a pay cut at work to align with the gender pay difference.
I've seen online various comments from women who have husband's in transition. The trans partner still works, comes home and expects to be waited on by the naturally born woman. Usually spending their spare time playing with clothes and makeup instead of chores. I feel some take certain aspects of being a women yet ignore the less appealing parts.
I've seen online various comments from women who have husband's in transition. The trans partner still works, comes home and expects to be waited on by the naturally born woman. Usually spending their spare time playing with clothes and makeup instead of chores. I feel some take certain aspects of being a women yet ignore the less appealing parts.
Oh absolutely. As Glosswitch said, we still know which half of the population is expected to wipe the arses and wash the floors!
But at least we don’t have to suffer the horror of being *gasp* misgendered
. We can’t possibly imagine the trauma and inhumanity of such a hateful act .
But at least we don’t have to suffer the horror of being *gasp* misgendered
. We can’t possibly imagine the trauma and inhumanity of such a hateful act .
Does anyone else read this thread and in their head say "yes!!!' "you go girl!!!" at people's posts? I love having this safe space to hear all your thoughts 
I personally don't like cis because I don't need an extra word - I am what I was born, a female human. I don't see why people who are what they were born need extra wording - to me it makes sense for those who have changed e.g transwoman. Also... How often do we hear "cis man"
as always, women are the bottom of the pecking order. We even come second to "women" with penises.
I personally don't like cis because I don't need an extra word - I am what I was born, a female human. I don't see why people who are what they were born need extra wording - to me it makes sense for those who have changed e.g transwoman. Also... How often do we hear "cis man"
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