I think the problem is that straight men just don't get what the issue is as it doesn't have any bearing on them. They're like "what's the problem, just live and let live, they're not hurting anyone". They don't get it
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Haha, none thankfully. He doesn’t go quite as far as the TWAW stuff, but he does buy into the whole, ‘they’re so marginalised, discriminated against’ bull. He certainly would never entertain having a relationship with one though. He just thinks I need to be ‘kinder’ and more ‘empathetic’ when it comes to the trans issue.I wonder how many former girlfriends of his before you got together had penises if TWAW and all that..
So you’re pretty spot on with that observation about straight men @SqualorVictoria.
From the brand that brought you “people who bleed” and “not all people with periods are women” comes a tampon product designed to make you feel ashamed of using sanitary products and the “noise” they make.
“Silent Wrappers.” duck. OFF. TAMPAX.
I’m already seeing suggestions that the “silent wrapper” will be helpful to trans men.
Because it’s “literally life a death for some people.”
It’s stigmatising periods even more than they are. Reinforcing horrid shaming tactics that every young girl knows. Shame that carries on into womanhood. But hey, if it helps the other “people with periods” who gives a tit.
“Silent Wrappers.” duck. OFF. TAMPAX.
I’m already seeing suggestions that the “silent wrapper” will be helpful to trans men.
Because it’s “literally life a death for some people.”It’s stigmatising periods even more than they are. Reinforcing horrid shaming tactics that every young girl knows. Shame that carries on into womanhood. But hey, if it helps the other “people with periods” who gives a tit.
I hate this SO much!! Also it's so ironic that when people say they don't want to share bathrooms with bio men because we have periods and sanitary products to change these idiots will always pipe up like 'iTs JuSt PErIoDs nObODy cArEs!!!' yet obviously they think we need a silent wrapper? Why do we need a silent wrapper if nObOdY cArEs about periods?From the brand that brought you “people who bleed” and “not all people with periods are women” comes a tampon product designed to make you feel ashamed of using sanitary products and the “noise” they make.
“Silent Wrappers.” duck. OFF. TAMPAX.
I’m already seeing suggestions that the “silent wrapper” will be helpful to trans men.
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We don't need silent wrappers if we are in toilets with other women. The end.
In the past few hours since that woman made that tweet, there are now comments aplenty about the “safety” of transmen. Even the OP saying she “didn’t realise this” and a TRA saying she should probably delete her tweet then. Also plenty of handmaidens saying how great the “silent wrappers” are because they would have wanted them in school. But they don’t want better for girls now, got it.
I’d have loved silent wrappers as a teenager changing my pad in the toilets at school (or any public place really). So I can see the appeal from that point of view. In fact that was my first thought when I heard of silent wrappers, that they would be great in helping girls feel more comfortable dealing with their periods in school and other settings.
But of course the angle isn’t from the point of view of a teenage girl but that of a trans man, who makes up less than 1% of the population. People are rarely concerned with the feelings of women and girls but stick a trans prefix on them and suddenly everyone’s fighting their corner
But of course the angle isn’t from the point of view of a teenage girl but that of a trans man, who makes up less than 1% of the population. People are rarely concerned with the feelings of women and girls but stick a trans prefix on them and suddenly everyone’s fighting their corner
Why I had to leave The Guardian
If you were bullied by 338 colleagues, what would you do?
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Cross posted from the JKR thread. A long read but Suzanne's own words about why she left.
Ugh if they are that scared then they should buy washable cloth pads like I do (I get irritated by disposable ones). Yet again a product used by half the population having to be reformulated for the minority.From the brand that brought you “people who bleed” and “not all people with periods are women” comes a tampon product designed to make you feel ashamed of using sanitary products and the “noise” they make.
“Silent Wrappers.” duck. OFF. TAMPAX.
I’m already seeing suggestions that the “silent wrapper” will be helpful to trans men.
It’s stigmatising periods even more than they are. Reinforcing horrid shaming tactics that every young girl knows. Shame that carries on into womanhood. But hey, if it helps the other “people with periods” who gives a tit.
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FAO my UK comrades!
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Reform of the Gender Recognition Act - Committees - UK Parliament
<p>The Government has published its proposals for changes to the gender recognition process and set out how it plans to move forward. The Women and Equalities Committee will examine these proposals, gathering evidence on whether the Government’s proposed changes are the right ones and whether...
This is just simply a personal musing / observation that I have been thinking about so happy to be corrected.
There seems to be a certain amount of anti-semetism by left wing middle class men, exemplified by key elements of the Labour party and their ilk. Additionally, I feel like the quiet institutional capture by TRAs has been spearheaded largely by white middle class left-leaning men. There seems to be a lot of crossover from self-identified liberals shouting ”terf” and “zionist”.
I could be wrong but it feels like unless you are born Jewish, you can’t easily influence and control what is going on within their group. Likewise, it’s hard to take over feminist groups / women’s movements without being a woman. You are competing for the same resources / positions / influence against a distinct group. It’s not enough to have the “right” connection or attended the “right” school or university.
Therefore, how much of this bull (anti semetism / TRA etc) is really a subversive attempt to infiltrate and control groups that are at odds with your biology / culture / class / race / religion.
To me, there seems to be a power struggle with regards to the left on this issue if it counts as “left wing” at all anymore.
What do others think?
There seems to be a certain amount of anti-semetism by left wing middle class men, exemplified by key elements of the Labour party and their ilk. Additionally, I feel like the quiet institutional capture by TRAs has been spearheaded largely by white middle class left-leaning men. There seems to be a lot of crossover from self-identified liberals shouting ”terf” and “zionist”.
I could be wrong but it feels like unless you are born Jewish, you can’t easily influence and control what is going on within their group. Likewise, it’s hard to take over feminist groups / women’s movements without being a woman. You are competing for the same resources / positions / influence against a distinct group. It’s not enough to have the “right” connection or attended the “right” school or university.
Therefore, how much of this bull (anti semetism / TRA etc) is really a subversive attempt to infiltrate and control groups that are at odds with your biology / culture / class / race / religion.
To me, there seems to be a power struggle with regards to the left on this issue if it counts as “left wing” at all anymore.
What do others think?
I’m personally not permanently politically tied to one party or leaning over another - in my years of voting I’ve pretty much floated and voted for most of the major parties at some stage, depending on the issues of the time. It does seem to me at the minute that on Twitter the Labour “left” seems to be tearing itself apart with lots of in-fighting, lots of name calling and such. I know it is more nuanced than that but the UK “left” doesn’t seem to be a stable force at the minute. I think there’s definitely some mileage in what you say, from what I’ve seen online.
I remember the echo chamber twitter became before the last election and how convinced the left were that they would trounce the Conservatives, but in reality they didn’t. Personally I’m scared by how things are going with the gender politics and then that leads me to consider voting for the other side, when really i want to be central.
All i do know is i will be looking very carefully at gender identity policies of all the parties at the next election and make a decision based on that. Such a blooming mess.
IMO it’s gearing us up for something bigger. The technological advances, the self-identifying, erasing of the past, deepfakes, it’s all tied together... I probably sound like a completely conspiracy theorist but it’s something I’ve thought from day one and as each day passes I don’t hear anything that doesn’t convince me to believe that less. There is a reason why the west is so captured by things like this and other countries aren’t, yet. I won’t write it all out though as people will probably think I’m mad.
Fellow floating voter here.
Emma is right about the left not being stable. It doesn’t help that both the leadership of the Tories and Labour had similar well to do backgrounds and whose views broadly intersect when it comes to globalisation / freedom of movement (irrespective of what they claim) and lax governance over the financial sectors. Their similar backgrounds makes me think they will try to accommodate the TRA movement because they don’t want to miss out on another low hanging fruit social “struggle” that they can turn to their advantage. Especially for those in receipt of lobbying from medical firms offering sex reassignment surgeries and the like for a premium.
In all honesty, I dislike both sides. I think the only thing that will make them give pause over women’s rights is when they are directly affected (primarily at the ballot). I once thought that a knockout study by an institution or definitive scientific and empirical proof would be all that was needed. But this entire struggle is rooted in power and ideology and not reality.
Emma is right about the left not being stable. It doesn’t help that both the leadership of the Tories and Labour had similar well to do backgrounds and whose views broadly intersect when it comes to globalisation / freedom of movement (irrespective of what they claim) and lax governance over the financial sectors. Their similar backgrounds makes me think they will try to accommodate the TRA movement because they don’t want to miss out on another low hanging fruit social “struggle” that they can turn to their advantage. Especially for those in receipt of lobbying from medical firms offering sex reassignment surgeries and the like for a premium.
In all honesty, I dislike both sides. I think the only thing that will make them give pause over women’s rights is when they are directly affected (primarily at the ballot). I once thought that a knockout study by an institution or definitive scientific and empirical proof would be all that was needed. But this entire struggle is rooted in power and ideology and not reality.
Adding to what others have said, I don't think you're wrong that a lot of these causes / groups have been captured and spearheaded by middle class white men, who quite frankly, have little business doing so.
But then men (especially men who benefit from particular privileges in society) involving themselves where they're not wanted or needed is nothing new.
I find it especially creepy that so many of these woke-bro types have such a prominent following and support base from women. I've also learnt that if he tells you he's a feminist, be sceptical, especially in the world of social media and dating.
My husband gets it but it took a while. I really had to explain how women are being erased everywhere, even in medical settings. I was on the verge of tears as women fought so hard for equal rights. There is no need to erase one minority (women) to make another feel welcome.
Now that the bullies have been exposed they're trying to claim it was never about Suzanne in the first place
Here's a Doctor (who is more concerned with being Insta famous) in Ireland celebrating this:
Is gender identity not meaningless in a medical setting. FFS
Is gender identity not meaningless in a medical setting. FFS
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I’m getting so fed up with online forms asking for my ‘gender’ and the options being male or female. That’s sex, not gender. I don’t “identify” as female, I am female.
It will be interesting what appears on the Census next year.
Spotted on my Twitter feed: "please respect my daughter's pronouns, which are ey/em/eir". If she acknowledges she's female, why does she need special pronouns, what is wrong with "she"? And "ey/em/eir" is stupid anyway, it's just they/them/their with two letters removed
Eir is the name of a broadband provider in Ireland so this made me laugh
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