Gender Discussions #3

[holliebollie]

@2020two thank you... it’s really tough for girls at school (primary and secondary but more so the latter) with gender stereotypes, inequality, sexist bullying, inappropriate sexual behaviour from boys... and now because schools want to be seen as ‘helping’, they are actually doing half the population a disservice. Even as adults it’s still a taboo to be seen holding/using sanitary products. The old ‘tuck in the sleeve’ trick or carry your whole bag with you. To force girls who probably aren’t confident about it to sit next to someone while rustling around, bin lids going etc... is just horrendous?!?
We also heard how a clinic for trans young people didn’t have sani bins in the male loos. I started typing but lost my nerve: ‘Schools in England have only JUST begun to offer free sanitary products for female pupils, may be some time until they have bins for the boys’ toilets...’

@judgejohndeed totally! We were explicitly told it was really unhelpful to say things like that, even when it comes from a place of not wanting to offend. Phrases like, we are all one race, the human race... while meant in a non harmful way and I guess meaning we are all equal in worth, it is minimising and is a conversation stopper as people can’t be bothered to challenge it.
We did have a really great session about gender stereotypes in childhood (a passion of mine) and funnily enough, no one pointed out we had only used boy/girl all day?!? Not even one with a pronoun bracket! How very odd

 

[SqualorVictoria]

I can't believe that the dogma has become so entrenched in society that people are willing to tell mistruths so as to appear progressive or not offend. Like, if you're a woman it's very obvious. Whether you're the girliest of girls or androgynous or whatever. Who sees a "blob"? Also, who wants to be seen as a blob! I've had it up to here with this nonsense and will be fighting back on this as much as I can

 

[Mulholland Drive]

Good morning all.

Later this evening I'm off to a LBG party in my local city. It's a friend's 30th birthday and he has invited around 100 of his close friends and colleagues.

However, it would seem that one of his friends mentioned the party to one of their friends, who has taken umbridge because its just for lesbians, bis and gays.

Therefore, "it" is now on social media (I don't know which one, but I have a hunch) moaning about it, and that there should be a protest outside the club!

Have no idea how this is going to pan out, but again this is just another added complication into an already complicated & vexing existence.

And I woke up earlier this morning so full of hope

 

[Mulholland Drive]

Good morning all.

Later this evening I'm off to a LBG party in my local city. It's a friend's 30th birthday and he has invited around 100 of his close friends and colleagues.

However, it would seem that one of his friends mentioned the party to one of their friends, who has taken umbridge because its just for lesbians, bis and gays.

Therefore, "it" is now on social media (I don't know which one, but I have a hunch) moaning about it, and that there should be a protest outside the club!

Have no idea how this is going to pan out, but again this is just another added complication into an already complicated & vexing existence.

And I woke up earlier this morning so full of hope

Am not bothering with the party tonight, and not because of the protest or whatever.

It struck me that we're not supposed to be in social gatherings during lockdown, including parties. And I'm not taking any chances with my health or getting arrested by the Old Bill. So I'm staying home, which is probably just as well.

 

[emmer_moans]

Am not bothering with the party tonight, and not because of the protest or whatever.

It struck me that we're not supposed to be in social gatherings during lockdown, including parties. And I'm not taking any chances with my health or getting arrested by the Old Bill. So I'm staying home, which is probably just as well.

I did wonder about the party and safety - sucks to miss out but better safe than sorry.
Sorry to hear abut the protest too.

 

[Mulholland Drive]

I did wonder about the party and safety - sucks to miss out but better safe than sorry.
Sorry to hear abut the protest too.

I have texted my friends who are always due to go the party, reminding them about lockdown and social distancing etc.

I guess it slipped my mind when I said yes to the invite a few days ago. I am a bit of a party girl at the best of times but these last few months have been a real bummer

 

[HockyRorror]

Good morning all.

Later this evening I'm off to a LBG party in my local city. It's a friend's 30th birthday and he has invited around 100 of his close friends and colleagues.

However, it would seem that one of his friends mentioned the party to one of their friends, who has taken umbridge because its just for lesbians, bis and gays.

Therefore, "it" is now on social media (I don't know which one, but I have a hunch) moaning about it, and that there should be a protest outside the club!

Have no idea how this is going to pan out, but again this is just another added complication into an already complicated & vexing existence.

And I woke up earlier this morning so full of hope

The bleeping arrogance! As the person hosting the party, it’s their prerogative who they invite and don’t. Although I too was confused at first at the 100 person gathering during lockdown and think it’s probably best you don’t attend. Are you in the UK btw? I didn’t think any clubs were open currently.

 

[Mulholland Drive]

The bleeping arrogance! As the person hosting the party, it’s their prerogative who they invite and don’t. Although I too was confused at first at the 100 person gathering during lockdown and think it’s probably best you don’t attend. Are you in the UK btw? I didn’t think any clubs were open currently.

Yes, I'm in England, and I too thought clubs were supposed to be closed, or at least under a curfew. But now that I've looked at the invitation card as to where the venue is, it looks more like a disused warehouse just outside of the city - so obviously a bit iffy!

Anyway, I've sent my excuses by text and now I can settle down at home, have a takeaway and a couple of drinks while watching a fave film of mine - Mullholland Drive

 

[SqualorVictoria]

Yes, I'm in England, and I too thought clubs were supposed to be closed, or at least under a curfew. But now that I've looked at the invitation card as to where the venue is, it looks more like a disused warehouse just outside of the city - so obviously a bit iffy!

Anyway, I've sent my excuses by text and now I can settle down at home, have a takeaway and a couple of drinks while watching a fave film of mine - Mullholland Drive

Enjoy your night!

 

[Bitofthebubbly]

That’s great and all but I’d rather West Midlands Police focus on tackling the increase in domestic violence reports in the region through lockdown this year, rather than virtue signalling and parading their (probably) one trans employee around on social media like a show pony for woke points.

Also how can you be someone’s brother AND sister?

 

[emmer_moans]

I don’t like how official organisations like the police and government try to do instagram stories reminiscent of teenagers’ stories. All the emojis, hearts etc... not exactly professional, and I don’t just mean this example. I see my local ones will share stories of the local beat officers doing a dance in a park with locals or something, but really I want to know what they are doing about solving crime. There’s a lot of woke SM use by professional orgs in this manner.

 

[CheshireLove]

That’s great and all but I’d rather West Midlands Police focus on tackling the increase in domestic violence reports in the region through lockdown this year, rather than virtue signalling and parading their (probably) one trans employee around on social media like a show pony for woke points.

Also how can you be someone’s brother AND sister?

Because they can identify as they like; whenever, whatever, whoever. That's self ID - the "right" that the evil terfs are denying transpeople. One day a brother and the next day brave sister.

I don’t like how official organisations like the police and government try to do instagram stories reminiscent of teenagers’ stories. All the emojis, hearts etc... not exactly professional, and I don’t just mean this example. I see my local ones will share stories of the local beat officers doing a dance in a park with locals or something, but really I want to know what they are doing about solving crime. There’s a lot of woke SM use by professional orgs in this manner.

Isn't it just so cringey. All for woke points. I'd much rather they put those resources toward finding criminals but perhaps that's just too much to ask.

 

[HockyRorror]

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That’s great and all but I’d rather West Midlands Police focus on tackling the increase in domestic violence reports in the region through lockdown this year, rather than virtue signalling and parading their (probably) one trans employee around on social media like a show pony for woke points.

Also how can you be someone’s brother AND sister?

...Except PC Skye is not my friend, my brother, my sister, or my colleague and is none of those things to the majority of the population either.

“We simply ask to be allowed to live our lives and be ourselves”. Great. I don’t think the majority of people have any objection to that. Except when “living our lives” means trampling over other people’s lives. And don’t try and compare it to gay rights either as I don’t recall any slogans like “homosexuals are heterosexuals” or trying to claim marriage as our thing and insisting anything else is a cis-marriage.

EDIT: quoted the wrong post but it still stands
EDIT 2: nvm, I quoted the correct post. It’s 2am. I’m tired. Lol.

 

[Mulholland Drive]

I'm only 27, and yet it frightens me to think what will happen concerning gender issues/politics over the next 40 or 50 years!

Ever since joining this thread 3 or 4 weeks ago, and reading some of this trans rit, I have become more and more pissed off and/or resigned to the fact that its going to get a whole lot worse before it gets better (if it ever does!)

 

[MotherofDragons]

Cross posted from the JK Rowling thread but I’ve just come across this post on Instagram and am mind-blown. The term womxn is now...too inclusive?!

 

[Mulholland Drive]

It's common knowledge that with this lockdown/pandemic malarkey, everyone is talking about the Great Global Reset.

Having read about it in great depth from legitimate sources, I have to quote something from the great Yogi Berra - The future ain't what it used to be!

I'd like to think I am a normal law-abiding tax paying citizen. Yes, I am South African in a foreign land; yes I am a les but make no big deal about it; and yes, I am an educated and qualified; and yes I like to think I am sufficiently liberal and tolerant enough to accept new concepts and ideologies; and yes I am an alcoholic!

But as I inferred in my previous post, I worry about the future, I worry about the erosion of freedom of speech; I worry about children and their futures; I worry about how woke virtue signalling is becoming the new neo-fascism that no one dares to criticize.

I don't know what the future may hold, but I know who holds the future.

 

[judgejohndeed]

The ‘anti trans movement’

 

[Mulholland Drive]

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The ‘anti trans movement’

Pots and Kettles,

 

[emmer_moans]

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The ‘anti trans movement’

How do they know the survey has been ‘flooded’ by ‘anti-trans’ people? Surely submissions are confidential? How do they know they are ‘negative’?

 

[Mulholland Drive]

How do they know the survey has been ‘flooded’ by ‘anti-trans’ people? Surely submissions are confidential? How do they know they are ‘negative’?

it should be confidential in order to comply with GDPR. But sometimes agendas run roughshod of the laws.