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The Hayley Cropper character used to puzzle me. She was a woman, playing a woman who was a man.
Made it more palatable for audiences. Now nobody cares about our eyes 😭
 
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Hopefully soon, the decent people who are hoodwinked by this movement will understand you can't be born into the wrong body and you can't be a genuine transperson.

I feel nothing but sympathy for those who are struggling with their mental health in that they feel uncomfortable in their bodies and conforming to gender stereotypes but they, and society, need to accept a male is a male and a female is a female. There's nothing wrong or nasty in that. Facts are facts.

You can't judge the genuine-ness of someone. Just because someone is mentally ill or has a sexual fetish but doesn't mean anyone else any harm still doesn't mean they are the opposite sex and deserve to be treated as such.

Once you just draw that line in the sand the rest is easy.
 
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They played the long game. Starting with Hayley Cropper (TRA's drank in the same pub as the Corrie writers to get the character written in), then in schools. If you grow up being fed lies, you will not only believe them, you will willingly promote them. These kids now unwittingly, promote the trans and woke agenda through the companies and organisations they work for. The fact that all government and local government institutions not only welcomed these flakes, but actively invited them in, shows just how much of a long game they played.
Yesterday I found myself thinking that one of the main reasons trans ideology got SO entrenched into society SO easily is that it was ushered in by the younger generation (younger than me at least in my mid 40s) as they moved up the ranks in their workplaces.

I mean look at the complete and utter insanity being spewed by the BMA, post-Cass report and again post Supreme Court ruling. 20 years ago (as recently as ten years ago even) this could never have happened, because the old school stuffy Boomers in senior roles back then would never have given it the time of day. But then they started to retire…

The BMA got captured because young brainwashed TRAs are now steering the ship. And of course this is being replicated in organisations across the public and private sector.

The next battle will be rolling this all back and it’s going to take a long time.
 
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Seen a post elsewhere bemoaning 'Voice for Wales' turning up at the Trans march in Cardiff, counter protesting in favour of biological women.

Yet if it was a gender critical march, you can bet the TRA and their handmaidens would have no issues turning up to do the same.

Why is it certain groups think they should not have to put up with counter protests, yet they are happy to counter protest at others' protests.

Double standards.
 
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The Hayley Cropper character used to puzzle me. She was a woman, playing a woman who was a man.
Made it more palatable for audiences. Now nobody cares about our eyes 😭
It was calculated and deliberate. Hayley Cropper would never have been accepted as a character if they’d cast a TIM.

But I genuinely believe it went deeper than wanting this new character in Corrie to be a success with the audience. It was about brainwashing the general public, especially - dare I say - the working classes who would generally give such leftie/progressive ideas pretty short shrift.

(I’m from a working class background and my mum watches all the soaps religiously, so I’m not trying to be disparaging).
 
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The Hayley Cropper character used to puzzle me. She was a woman, playing a woman who was a man.
Made it more palatable for audiences. Now nobody cares about our eyes 😭
And Julie Hesmondhalgh who played Hayley , has since apologised for taking a transwoman's role and vowed that she would never have done it had she realised how offensive it was, and she would never, ever do it again!

Julie, love - if they'd had a real TiM in that role it would never have got off the ground. It would have been beyond laughable that heterosexual Roy, despite his sexual inexperience, would mistake a bloke for a woman. The character is shy - not thick. That's why you were offered the role - they needed a WOMAN in the part. If you'd turned it down, they would have offered it to ANOTHER WOMAN. And they would have kept offering it to WOMEN until one accepted it.

ETA to correct the auto🥕, which had changed "transwoman" to "trans woman". IT'S A PREFIX* - NOT AN ADJECTIVE. THEY ARE NOT A TYPE OF WOMAN.

*And prefixes more often than not indicate that a word has changed into its opposite eg happy +un = unhappy. They are the opposite of women.
 
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I've mentioned before that I work in a midwife team and our clinic has unisex (public) toilets, consisting of one room with two lockable cubicles containing a toilet and sink each. So our pregnant women, who have to provide a urine sample (into a tiny tube, clearly designed for men 🙄) and who may have to remove clothing to do so, especially when heavily pregnant, potentially have to share a small space with a man who is a stranger to them.
I can recommend the Collipee urine collection system. We used them in our obs/gynae dept for a study and they are a game changer! They have a funnel that the patient wees into and the device only collect the first flow then a valve shuts off and the rest of the stream goes down the toilet. There's no need to stop urinating during sample collection.

They are unfortunately expensive than the usual collection pots - we managed to get the manufacturer to supply them to us for free, but are much so easier to use for patients. The study collected feedback on patients' opinions of the device and feedback was almost all positive.

Sorry - not really GC but thought it was a design that has been made with female patients in mind for once!
 
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It's like they've literally never met a woman.

All the older women in my family have always had short hair, I've never seen one of them in makeup and they all dress practically because they're working class women doing jobs like cleaning and care work that require them to move around.

Not one of them has ever been mistaken for a fella. I genuinely never saw my lovely mum wear makeup or have hair past her ears a single time in my entire 4 decades of life.

They tell on themselves when they talk about "performing femininity". Because they think that's what indicates someone is female, we must all be operating with their deranged standards.
They can't make their minds up, apparently they "don't owe you feminity" either. I'm tattooed with a pixie cut & 50% of the time can't be bothered with make up. Times I've been mistaken for a man? 0.

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The face will suffice thanks
But..... it's not a fetish.... what woman (real) would ever show someone their bits to prove their sex?! Again.... 0.
 
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female who apparently fails to perform femininity(?!) here. If I’ve never been questioned in the bathroom before, why the duck would I be now?! Am I going to have to start carrying emergency piss lipstick around with me just in case I need to use a public loo?
From the way its being talked about it seems like GNC women are constantly being questioned. I've never seen it happen personally and all the reports of it are surprisingly first hand aka "I was questioned" rather than "I saw someone else be questioned".

Not saying it doesn't happen but I think its being massively over blown.

Funny how all the transwomen claim their presence has never been questioned
 
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Funny how all the transwomen claim their presence has never been questioned
Hmm yes all these blokes in rara skirts and boob tubes who never get a second glance because of their ladylike demeanor. But women with short hair are being regularly shouted at and ejected from toilet spaces (or have to be escorted and protected by Dawn Butler for their own safety) 'Tis one of the world's greatest mysteries.

I just wish it were easier to distinguish between men and women *sigh*
 
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This is shocking from Lush. How dare they try to recruit other people’s young children into the trans cult.
Does anyone know why Lush do this please? Are they trying to copy The Body Shop in its early days when Anita Roddick took up the cause of not testing on animals. Originally, its selling point was being ethical, affordable and good quality. Dewberry anyone?
Or does Lush have someone at the top with a trans bias?
 
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Fair play to the Scottish FA for getting out ahead of things. The English FA have a lot to answer for for banning those girls who questioned if they were playing men


"From next season, only players who were female at birth will be allowed to play in women's football over the age of 13 in Scotland."

"The Supreme Court ruling has prompted another review of regulations in English football, just weeks after the Football Association (FA) updated gender eligibility rules.

The FA will be able to prevent transgender women from playing in women's matches if there are concerns about the safety of opponents and the fairness of the competition.

The FA will only intervene on a case-by-case basis, hoping to resolve issues through dialogue.

The FA rules still say that players over the age of 16 who were male at birth have to show their blood testosterone is below a particular level to play in women's matches."

"There aren't believed to be any transgender women in women's professional football in England or Scotland.

The FA says there are only around 20 trans women playing this season in the grassroots game."
 
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Does anyone know why Lush do this please? Are they trying to copy The Body Shop in its early days when Anita Roddick took up the cause of not testing on animals. Originally, its selling point was being ethical, affordable and good quality. Dewberry anyone?
Or does Lush have someone at the top with a trans bias?
Lush has shops in the Middle East, in Saudi Arabia, Dubai, Sharja - what's the betting they are not promoting this nonsense in those locations.
 
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It's really quite a huge privilege to have any chance at all of hiding your sex. I'm a naturally exaggerated hourglass (read: bits that the army could use as ballistic missiles, hips like the tank that would launch them) with a pretty doughy face. I'm not at all beautiful but I'm absolutely unmistakably a woman and even if I got my boobs cut off and took T to give myself facial hair and male pattern baldness, I wouldn't pass. My waist/hip ratio would give it away, as would my legs, my walk, my shoulders and my voice.

So when people complain about having to reveal their sex, I do find myself wondering what it must be like even to have that as a theoretical option. Nothing I could do would ever make me pass as a man.
 
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Lush has shops in the Middle East, in Saudi Arabia, Dubai, Sharja - what's the betting they are not promoting this nonsense in those locations.
Of course they're not! Pics have been shared to prove it.

If you like Thrush as a shop (and clearly someone does), my advice is to go on Etsy or notonthehighstreet. Plenty of independent artisan makers of scented bath bombs that won't give you a headache or try to correct your thoughtcrimes. Support small business.
 
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Hi everyone,

Reading this thread with great interest as usual. I have a question for you all. How open are you in public about your “TERF”/ common sense opinions?

I’m so worried I’d end up losing my job if I was honest about how I felt publicly or on Social Media.

The only people who really know I feel the way I do are my husband and best friend and one other friend (who all agree with me.)
 
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It's really quite a huge privilege to have any chance at all of hiding your sex. I'm a naturally exaggerated hourglass (read: bits that the army could use as ballistic missiles, hips like the tank that would launch them) with a pretty doughy face. I'm not at all beautiful but I'm absolutely unmistakably a woman and even if I got my boobs cut off and took T to give myself facial hair and male pattern baldness, I wouldn't pass. My waist/hip ratio would give it away, as would my legs, my walk, my shoulders and my voice.

So when people complain about having to reveal their sex, I do find myself wondering what it must be like even to have that as a theoretical option. Nothing I could do would ever make me pass as a man.
I know I've touched on this before but wouldn't it be interesting to see how the TRAs would react if you entered a forum and stated you were trans. They would clock you are a woman immediately but probably realise they couldn't say anything as it blows apart their argument.
 
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Hi everyone,

Reading this thread with great interest as usual. I have a question for you all. How open are you in public about your “TERF”/ common sense opinions?

I’m so worried I’d end up losing my job if I was honest about how I felt publicly or on Social Media.

The only people who really know I feel the way I do are my husband and best friend and one other friend (who all agree with me.)
I understand your hesitation! It took me a few years to dip my toe into the 'coming out' pool.
I can't advise on the work front as I don't work. During the Olympics was when I started to make my stance known on SM. I found a lot of friends who agreed with me but I've fallen out with my baby cousin which was sad as I love her very much but she was so aggressive with me I just gave up.
I was hesitant to wear my Adult Human Female hoodie in public but then I thought, what's the worst that could happen? It's far from offensive, it's a protected belief.
 
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Hi everyone,

Reading this thread with great interest as usual. I have a question for you all. How open are you in public about your “TERF”/ common sense opinions?

I’m so worried I’d end up losing my job if I was honest about how I felt publicly or on Social Media.

The only people who really know I feel the way I do are my husband and best friend and one other friend (who all agree with me.)
I'm open, however, Tattle is my only foray into social media so all conversations are within my control.
I am aware that I need to be careful at work, but my colleagues (especially a gay, male colleague) tend to be older and have the same views as me.
 
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