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The urinary leash all over again. I won’t be using any gender neutral loos and I will be innocently asking the staff where the ladies are. I don’t want to take my little daughters in the loos that men might be in.
like you said above, good luck with the all male pubs
 
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I wouldn’t be surprised of some places temporarily merge the toilets because of Covid restrictions depending on location of the toilets within buildings and also for cleaning load - some single sex toilets can be really obscured within the rafters of some pubs (cough Wetherspoons cough) and perhaps they’d try to reduce traffic inside. It’s not fair on people who genuinely need to use the Disabled loos suddenly finding a unisex free for all sign on those facilities (typically downstairs i would hope), and of course, women suddenly finding men in their’s also. I can see it being a logistical ‘solution’ for pub and restaurant owners though, for ticking the boxes of Covid safety.

I would also be asking innocently like Bridget Jones “do you know where the [female] toilet’s are?” 🥴
 
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Just fallen down a Twitter rabbit hole, of tweets from women in their teens/early 20s. They seem to be waking up to how groomed they were in schools/ internet about ‘rough’ sex, bdsm. How normalised it was at school that girls were doing quizzes in maths class at age 13 to see if they were Dom’s or subs. Ugh. I’m in my mid 30s and we talked about sex all the time at school but it was never about violence I would have been terrified. I’m so worried for my daughters and what they are going to think is normal ect. There’s no point to this ramble it’s just left me feeling depressed
 
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Just fallen down a Twitter rabbit hole, of tweets from women in their teens/early 20s. They seem to be waking up to how groomed they were in schools/ internet about ‘rough’ sex, bdsm. How normalised it was at school that girls were doing quizzes in maths class at age 13 to see if they were Dom’s or subs. Ugh. I’m in my mid 30s and we talked about sex all the time at school but it was never about violence I would have been terrified. I’m so worried for my daughters and what they are going to think is normal ect. There’s no point to this ramble it’s just left me feeling depressed
Chimes with this article from the weekend:


I can’t believe things have got so bad in schools. My rough 90s comp seems blissful compared with what girls are subject to now.
 
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Mobile phones. I want to slap parents that think mobile phones are some kind of protective force field. My Son had a crappy burner phone, prevented him from being a mugging victim but could call me if he needed to.
Chimes with this article from the weekend:


I can’t believe things have got so bad in schools. My rough 90s comp seems blissful compared with what girls are subject to now.
 
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Just fallen down a Twitter rabbit hole, of tweets from women in their teens/early 20s. They seem to be waking up to how groomed they were in schools/ internet about ‘rough’ sex, bdsm. How normalised it was at school that girls were doing quizzes in maths class at age 13 to see if they were Dom’s or subs. Ugh. I’m in my mid 30s and we talked about sex all the time at school but it was never about violence I would have been terrified. I’m so worried for my daughters and what they are going to think is normal ect. There’s no point to this ramble it’s just left me feeling depressed
I was asked all sorts of vile things by boys when I was at school. From the moment I went to secondary school, being asked/told I was “frigid” (age 11) and then hounded and laughed at because I didn’t know what it meant. Boys openly talking about porn - especially “2 Girls 1 Cup” - and showing videos. I remember boys asking my friends and I “how many fingers/fists I could fit”, “show me your thong” etc. One poor girl had her trousers and knickers pulled down in the school field during a lunch break.

I was quite a shielded young girl and had gone to a small, friendly primary so it was all a big shock. And lots of the girls gave hyper-sexualised answers back because that’s what they thought they should do.
 
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I was asked all sorts of vile things by boys when I was at school. From the moment I went to secondary school, being asked/told I was “frigid” (age 11) and then hounded and laughed at because I didn’t know what it meant. Boys openly talking about porn - especially “2 Girls 1 Cup” - and showing videos. I remember boys asking my friends and I “how many fingers/fists I could fit”, “show me your thong” etc. One poor girl had her trousers and knickers pulled down in the school field during a lunch break.

I was quite a shielded young girl and had gone to a small, friendly primary so it was all a big shock. And lots of the girls gave hyper-sexualised answers back because that’s what they thought they should so.
same here. one time one of my bullies started touching my shoulder (from behind so i didnt know he was there at first) with his hand starting to travel down and as a reflex I elbowed him in the stomach, I was 12 I had a cleavage and apologized cause i was a nice kid and didn't realize it at the time, but i'm glad i unknowingly stopped him from groping me. Got a few other stories like this, boys are pigs.
 
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I was asked all sorts of vile things by boys when I was at school. From the moment I went to secondary school, being asked/told I was “frigid” (age 11) and then hounded and laughed at because I didn’t know what it meant. Boys openly talking about porn - especially “2 Girls 1 Cup” - and showing videos. I remember boys asking my friends and I “how many fingers/fists I could fit”, “show me your thong” etc. One poor girl had her trousers and knickers pulled down in the school field during a lunch break.

I was quite a shielded young girl and had gone to a small, friendly primary so it was all a big shock. And lots of the girls gave hyper-sexualised answers back because that’s what they thought they should do.
School was rough. Puberty hit me like a train and I was a DD by 11, G cup by 14. I was shoved into a toilet cubicle with 3 boys who refused to let me leave until I flashed my "massive tits" at them when I was 13. I was hounded non stop over my boobs at school, I'd overhear bitchy girls talking about the fact I'd have saggy boobs when I was grown up. I've never felt so miserable in my life, I was a total emo "gender non conforming" sexually confused girl and if that had been today and not years ago I'm 1000% convinced TRA logic would have convinced teenage me to "yeet" my tits off and become a straight boy instead.

All these young girls transitioning just seems like a temporary solution to the struggle of becoming a woman/accepting such drastic body changes ☹
 
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All these young girls transitioning just seems like a temporary solution to the struggle of becoming a woman/accepting such drastic body changes ☹
First of all, I’m sorry to hear about your experiences at school 😞
Secondly, that’s exactly it, isn’t it? During puberty, teenagers naturally feel some sort of disconnect with their body. It’s no coincidence that this is prime time for things like eating disorders to rear their heads, often as some sort of coping mechanism for these changes. Not only that, but it’s not until around this time that many actually form a relationship with their body for the first time. Personally, I didn’t really *notice* my body until puberty hit and it’s not as if this happens and you suddenly feel *womanly* (does this ever even fully happen? And is this even a consistent feeling? I don’t think so). The whole thing is a minefield and difficult to explain at times but I hope you get the gist of what I’m trying to say, haha
 
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Dawkins has just been JK Rowlinged. Humanist org has rescinded an award they gave him.


The organization said Dawkins had recently implied that “the identities of transgender individuals are fraudulent, while also simultaneously attacking Black identity as one that can be assumed when convenient,” noting he would be stripped of an award granted to him some 25 years ago. It declined to specify the offending comment.

“Regrettably, Richard Dawkins has over the past several years accumulated a history of making statements that use the guise of scientific discourse to demean marginalized groups, an approach antithetical to humanist values,” the AHA said on Monday.


I love this. I obviously don't want scientists to be silenced but this is what we need to wake people up. He apologised, he said he was wrong and it still isn't good enough.
 
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Dawkins has been stripped of an award from 25 years ago? 🤣

All these young girls transitioning just seems like a temporary solution to the struggle of becoming a woman/accepting such drastic body changes ☹
That’s exactly what it is. It’s obvious. It makes me want to scream that we’re not allowed to acknowledge it. Somehow it’s better to believe that a 4000% increase in teenage girls attending gender clinics is just natural and organic and there are just... more boys being born into female bodies these days?
 
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Goes to show they want complete capitulation. An apology is not enough apparently.

Absolute lunacy we are seeing. Soon we will have no academia, no critical thinking left.

Ironic that an athiest society will excommunicate or shun an athiest, for not believing in a gender religion... Make it make sense.
 
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A lot of people in the replies on twitter are calling it a moral panic.

I do wonder if, in 30/40 years time people will look back on this era with as much bewilderment as we look back on the Satanic Panic era now.
 
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someone I follow has posted this (born male, a few years ago came out as a trans woman but since appears to have gone on a whole gender journey). In all honesty (and believe me I’ve tried) I just really don’t understand this. How can you be 70% ‘female’ and 30% in the middle of the spectrum? How do you even attribute numbers to this kind of thing? What does this even feel like for someone ?!
 
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someone I follow has posted this (born male, a few years ago came out as a trans woman but since appears to have gone on a whole gender journey). In all honesty (and believe me I’ve tried) I just really don’t understand this. How can you be 70% ‘female’ and 30% in the middle of the spectrum? How do you even attribute numbers to this kind of thing? What does this even feel like for someone ?!
This is such a load of bollocks. I don’t believe in non binary at all but especially like this. These are people who literally have nothing better to do with their lives. Get a bloody hobby for God’s sake.

hello fellow non - men and men

bonus points for the dehumanization of women and lesbian women in general.

Edit: Not to mention : https://twitter.com/search?q=non-men&src=typed_query
A few years back I wrote a paper (in a different context) where I said that it was becoming widely recognised now that defining any group by that which they are not (here non-doctor, non-pharmacist etc) is thought to be disrespectful and dehumanising. Of course I should’ve realised it’s still fine when it’s women.
 
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