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Don't think has been shared. Poor guide dogs.
I am surprised its a news story as I have visited 2 local hospitals recently and they both have the same zebra crossings. I just assumed they were all across NHS sites

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When I had my baby in Gloucester Royal hospital they didn’t have enough cots so my newborn had to sleep on the resus table.

Glad they’ve got enough money to paint the road though. 🙄
 
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When I had my baby in Gloucester Royal hospital they didn’t have enough cots so my newborn had to sleep on the resus table.

Glad they’ve got enough money to paint the road though. 🙄
Yes, there's ALWAYS money for box ticking/virtue-signalling.......😏
 
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Elon Musk’s estranged relationship with his transgender daughter exposes a dark trend of familial divide in the age of anti-trans politics (msn.com)

This is a curious article. Elon Musk's 'daughter' who was born male, objects strongly towards her fathers version of events. According to the Daughter Elon Musk has absolutely no right at all to be upset or unhappy at feeling as if he had lost his son.

Why doesnt a mother or father have any rights in this?

As a parent it must hurt to lose a child. any child. It must hurt to lose contact via divorce or similar, it must hurt to lose a child, when and if they reinvent themselves into a different gender or different identity. Musk said how much it hurt for his son to give up and change his dead name, otherwise known as his birth name.

Why do the rights of the child completely over rule the rights of the parents to have feelings and make a comment?

I know it must be tricky....and there are cases where privacy is important... but surely parents have rights as well? its not just a one way street.
This seems to be a common theme online, the only one whose feelings matter is the trans person. Here's just one example (bold is mine).

Anyway, when we get to the gathering, my wife and I walk in, my wife first, and myself close behind. As we make our way in, greeting everyone, it's clear that a few are uncomfortable, but I don't care because I finally love myself. We get to my dad and stepmom, and I immediately ask where my grandfather is because we didn't see him.

My dad then sits me down (he's always been quite open and honesty with me), so I know it's not good. He proceeds to tell us that as soon as we walked in, my grandfather, who was sitting on the couch, saw me, and realized he was "not ready." This 81 year old man proceeded to bolt off the couch and escape out through the back yard, got into his truck and left, without either of us noticing. My dad then tells me that he's been crying over my transition, as he sees me as his "first grandson." It's apparently hard for him to accept. Initially, I was stunned. I expected push back, or negativity, or even disparagement. I never expected him to run and hide from me. Obviously, I was hurt, especially since I never even behaved like a "grandson." After I composed myself, I began to realize that his immature decision negatively impacted everyone there. He left his wife, my step grandmother, there, who came up to me, hugged me tight, and said, "I still love you." He abandoned his entire family before food had even been served because he can't stand to look at his granddaughter.

As my wife and I were driving home, the gravity of it all fully sank in, and any sadness I felt turned into righteous indignation. I told my wife that I can possibly forgive this act, but never forget. I've decided that I will not mince words when, or if, we ever speak again. What he did was insulting to everyone there, and incredibly immature. He will not get anything past a second chance. He will know that if he cannot fully accept me, pronouns and all, then I am done with him. He'll know that if he thinks he lost his "grandson," he'll lose his granddaughter. I also will only allow a relationship if he not only apologizes to me, but also the relevant parties his actions affected. I'm not something or someone to be "accepted" as a reality. I am as I am. If he cannot "accept" that, then he can actually grieve for me as he sits alone on Christmas, or any other holiday, as the rest of the family embraces me.

So absolutely no empathy for an elderly man who is grieving the loss of a grandson who he's expected to accept is now a crossdressing man wanting to be called "she" and probably claiming to be a les. He tried, but when it came to the actual meeting he just couldn't do it, so left.
 
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This seems to be a common theme online, the only one whose feelings matter is the trans person. Here's just one example (bold is mine).

Anyway, when we get to the gathering, my wife and I walk in, my wife first, and myself close behind. As we make our way in, greeting everyone, it's clear that a few are uncomfortable, but I don't care because I finally love myself. We get to my dad and stepmom, and I immediately ask where my grandfather is because we didn't see him.

My dad then sits me down (he's always been quite open and honesty with me), so I know it's not good. He proceeds to tell us that as soon as we walked in, my grandfather, who was sitting on the couch, saw me, and realized he was "not ready." This 81 year old man proceeded to bolt off the couch and escape out through the back yard, got into his truck and left, without either of us noticing. My dad then tells me that he's been crying over my transition, as he sees me as his "first grandson." It's apparently hard for him to accept. Initially, I was stunned. I expected push back, or negativity, or even disparagement. I never expected him to run and hide from me. Obviously, I was hurt, especially since I never even behaved like a "grandson." After I composed myself, I began to realize that his immature decision negatively impacted everyone there. He left his wife, my step grandmother, there, who came up to me, hugged me tight, and said, "I still love you." He abandoned his entire family before food had even been served because he can't stand to look at his granddaughter.

As my wife and I were driving home, the gravity of it all fully sank in, and any sadness I felt turned into righteous indignation. I told my wife that I can possibly forgive this act, but never forget. I've decided that I will not mince words when, or if, we ever speak again. What he did was insulting to everyone there, and incredibly immature. He will not get anything past a second chance. He will know that if he cannot fully accept me, pronouns and all, then I am done with him. He'll know that if he thinks he lost his "grandson," he'll lose his granddaughter. I also will only allow a relationship if he not only apologizes to me, but also the relevant parties his actions affected. I'm not something or someone to be "accepted" as a reality. I am as I am. If he cannot "accept" that, then he can actually grieve for me as he sits alone on Christmas, or any other holiday, as the rest of the family embraces me.

So absolutely no empathy for an elderly man who is grieving the loss of a grandson who he's expected to accept is now a crossdressing man wanting to be called "she" and probably claiming to be a les. He tried, but when it came to the actual meeting he just couldn't do it, so left.
Just another one of these nasty, enabled bleeps. No surprise there......
His grandad, who has loved him,bought him presents as he grew up, gave him advice.......

He's a bleep, like all of them.
 
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Because they demand acceptance and seem to think that the whole world must revolve around them. The tolerance that they bang on about only goes one way. Sorry, I was posting in reply to the 81 year old grandfather and the trans "grand daughter".
 
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Really hope there is some last minute over turn and those men are not allowed box against the women. It's disgrace that we're potentially going to witness VAWG broadcast as sport.
 
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Really hope there is some last minute over turn and those men are not allowed box against the women. It's disgrace that we're potentially going to witness VAWG broadcast as sport.
I wouldn't hold your breath,but I hope so too....
 
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This seems to be a common theme online, the only one whose feelings matter is the trans person. Here's just one example (bold is mine).

Anyway, when we get to the gathering, my wife and I walk in, my wife first, and myself close behind. As we make our way in, greeting everyone, it's clear that a few are uncomfortable, but I don't care because I finally love myself. We get to my dad and stepmom, and I immediately ask where my grandfather is because we didn't see him.

My dad then sits me down (he's always been quite open and honesty with me), so I know it's not good. He proceeds to tell us that as soon as we walked in, my grandfather, who was sitting on the couch, saw me, and realized he was "not ready." This 81 year old man proceeded to bolt off the couch and escape out through the back yard, got into his truck and left, without either of us noticing. My dad then tells me that he's been crying over my transition, as he sees me as his "first grandson." It's apparently hard for him to accept. Initially, I was stunned. I expected push back, or negativity, or even disparagement. I never expected him to run and hide from me. Obviously, I was hurt, especially since I never even behaved like a "grandson." After I composed myself, I began to realize that his immature decision negatively impacted everyone there. He left his wife, my step grandmother, there, who came up to me, hugged me tight, and said, "I still love you." He abandoned his entire family before food had even been served because he can't stand to look at his granddaughter.

As my wife and I were driving home, the gravity of it all fully sank in, and any sadness I felt turned into righteous indignation. I told my wife that I can possibly forgive this act, but never forget. I've decided that I will not mince words when, or if, we ever speak again. What he did was insulting to everyone there, and incredibly immature. He will not get anything past a second chance. He will know that if he cannot fully accept me, pronouns and all, then I am done with him. He'll know that if he thinks he lost his "grandson," he'll lose his granddaughter. I also will only allow a relationship if he not only apologizes to me, but also the relevant parties his actions affected. I'm not something or someone to be "accepted" as a reality. I am as I am. If he cannot "accept" that, then he can actually grieve for me as he sits alone on Christmas, or any other holiday, as the rest of the family embraces me.

So absolutely no empathy for an elderly man who is grieving the loss of a grandson who he's expected to accept is now a crossdressing man wanting to be called "she" and probably claiming to be a les. He tried, but when it came to the actual meeting he just couldn't do it, so left.
This is just a small scale version of what's happened in society. They've changed the rules and anyone who doesn't immediately understand, accept and support the new rules (men can be women) is a bigot and a transphobe and must be cast out. They make no allowance for the fact that the world has been living with the male female binary since the dawn of time and people don't get this rubbish and no allowance for poor old Grandad who can't get his 81 year old head around his grandson becoming his granddaughter. It's all about them.
 
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This is a long watch, but goes into detail about the effects of testosterone on female bodies. :(
If you don't have time to watch it all, it really gets into it just before 27 mins in.

 
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I feel sick at the thought of women going into a boxing ring with those men. 😔
Same here. I'm genuinely scared for them and when Barry McGuigan calls it out for the dangerous bullsh1t it is you know it's utter lunacy.
Jesus, even thinking of those poor female opponents & what they potentially face, makes me feel ill too. What must they be thinking or fearing. God, it's shocking. :(
 
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I wonder how the women who are up against them are feeling about it. They are stuck between a rock and a hard place in terms of how to respond to it and knowing they are physically at risk. Even if there wasn’t a physical risk, competing in the Olympics is one of, if not the biggest achievements an athelete can have. And these male cheats are spoiling it and ruining their dreams. It makes me so angry. I hope the media are relentless in their reporting on it and keep the pressure on IOC.
 
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Same here. I'm genuinely scared for them and when Barry McGuigan calls it out for the dangerous bullsh1t it is you know it's utter lunacy.
Jesus, even thinking of those poor female opponents & what they potentially face, makes me feel ill too. What must they be thinking or fearing. God, it's shocking. :(
It's so stupid. The best we can hope for is that neither of the women will be injured and it will get people talking. Laurel Hubbard was easy to ignore because weight lifting is an individual sport and she didn't win. Boxing is a totally different prospect. Anyone watching is going to see that it's unfair. The problem is that there might not be too many watching and it won't be reported on.
 
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Violence against women and girls is at epidemic levels and the IOC sanction two previously disqualified males to enter a boxing ring for the purpose of fighting with women. Watching men beat women with their fists is now a sport. Everyone should be up in arms about this.
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I watched a very short bit of that clip. Found it hard, as I loathe boxing anyway, but absolutely disgusting seeing a man punching a woman like that. There is nothing remotely female about him. He looks like a man, he has XY chromosomes and he is a bloody man. People cannot undo biology and change sex FFS and men taking part in female sports are at best cheats and at worst as in this case, IMO women beaters.
Again, why has the world got to pander to these men and validate their feelings at the expense of biological reality, fairness and honesty in sport and most importantly WOMEN.
I‘m not a conspiracy theorist generally, but I feel that this push to gaslight the world in believing that biology doesn’t matter is coming from a global level.
 
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It's so stupid. The best we can hope for is that neither of the women will be injured and it will get people talking. Laurel Hubbard was easy to ignore because weight lifting is an individual sport and she HE didn't win. Boxing is a totally different prospect. Anyone watching is going to see that it's unfair. The problem is that there might not be too many watching and it won't be reported on.
Fixed it! They are cheats and using ideology to weasel their way into the Olympics in the wrong category. I wouldn’t give a monkeys if only they competed in their correct sex category.
 
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It's so stupid. The best we can hope for is that neither of the women will be injured and it will get people talking. Laurel Hubbard was easy to ignore because weight lifting is an individual sport and she didn't win. Boxing is a totally different prospect. Anyone watching is going to see that it's unfair. The problem is that there might not be too many watching and it won't be reported on.
He didn't win.
 
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Fixed it! They are cheats and using ideology to weasel their way into the Olympics in the wrong category. I wouldn’t give a monkeys if only they competed in their correct sex category.
Thank you! God it's so easy to slip up - I'm not normally a user of preferred pronouns I promise!
 
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