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From the NY Times article

In England, for example, a yearslong fight over a proposed law that would have made it easier for transgender people to change the gender on their identification documents galvanized a political movement to try to exclude transgender women from women’s sports, prisons and domestic violence shelters.
“The intention with the Cass review is to be neutral, but I think that neutral has maybe moved,” said Laurence Webb, a representative from Mermaids, a trans youth advocacy organization in Britain. “Extremist views have become much more normalized.”


Oh duck off you bleep.
 
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From the NY Times article

In England, for example, a yearslong fight over a proposed law that would have made it easier for transgender people to change the gender on their identification documents galvanized a political movement to try to exclude transgender women from women’s sports, prisons and domestic violence shelters.
“The intention with the Cass review is to be neutral, but I think that neutral has maybe moved,” said Laurence Webb, a representative from Mermaids, a trans youth advocacy organization in Britain. “Extremist views have become much more normalized.”


Oh duck off you bleep.
Oh “Extremist views have become much more normalized” alright, I just think we both disagree on which view is extremist.
 
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From the NY Times article

In England, for example, a yearslong fight over a proposed law that would have made it easier for transgender people to change the gender on their identification documents galvanized a political movement to try to exclude transgender women from women’s sports, prisons and domestic violence shelters.
“The intention with the Cass review is to be neutral, but I think that neutral has maybe moved,” said Laurence Webb, a representative from Mermaids, a trans youth advocacy organization in Britain. “Extremist views have become much more normalized.”


Oh duck off you bleep.
What's going to happen to all of these captured elites running these states and countries? Are they waiting for the next virtue bandwagon? They have to be always fighting against the majority population. It's always something pointless to the average person trying to survive in everyday life.
 
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Whenever I atttend training days at work, I see valiant attempts by the training team to include the terms "pregnant people" (i.e. women), birthing people" (i.e. women), chest-feeders (i.e. women) and so on. What is so laughable is that these terms tend to be used at the start of the presentation, but after 5 minutes, everyone has reverted to just using the word "woman", we all know that it's nonsense, even if no-one is brave enough to say so out loud. I'm pretty sure that my exaggerated eyerolls and snorts of derision don't go unnoticed though! 😬🤭
Keep up the good work. I heard an ad on the radio recently which mentioned pregnant people 🙄. It's gone again, I think.
 
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“The intention with the Cass review is to be neutral, but I think that neutral has maybe moved,” said Laurence Webb, a representative from Mermaids, a trans youth advocacy organization in Britain. “Extremist views have become much more normalized.”


Oh duck off you bleep.
“Extremist views have become much more normalized.”


Indeed they have, Laurence. Terroristic mantras such as ‘death to TERFs’ and the refusal to engage in evidence-based debate are certainly extremist.

Poor Laurence et al. It must be rather worrying to hear the rumblings of your gravy train grinding to a halt. 🙁
 
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Also it doesn't help that even cutting your hair is seen as transitioning. My daughter asked to cut her hair because of sensory issues. Since the chop she has been asked repeatedly is she transitioning and what her new name is!!!! :mad::mad:
She's growing it back because of this ! It's gone too far can't even have a hair cut without the trans lobby. Being a girl is much more than the length of your hair!!
 
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I wonder how many girls it's actually autism that's causing the feeling ?
As well as the acknowledged comorbidity between autism and gender identity issues, I strongly believe that for a lot of girls adopting gender-neutral or masculine presentations is a way of side-stepping the pornification of contemporary culture.
 
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It's the first article on the BBC website! :oops:


She is clear that children and young adults using the services deserve the highest standards of care and research, which are expected elsewhere in the NHS.
Addressing children and young people in the foreword to her report, she wrote: "I have been disappointed by the lack of evidence on the long-term impact of taking hormones from an early age; research has let us all down, most importantly you."
"The reality is we have no good evidence on the long-term outcomes of interventions to manage gender-related distress."


"Dr Cass also raised concerns about what she called "diagnostic overshadowing" - when patients' other healthcare issues were overlooked in cases of patients questioning their gender.
The report recommends that young people referred to the new clinics should have a "holistic assessment", which Dr Cass says should include screening for neurodevelopment conditions such as autism, and a mental health assessment.
It also says representatives from the regional centres should form a national group to oversee ethics, training and to ensure everyone receives "the same high standards of evidence-based care".
The report warns the "toxicity of the debate" around gender has been "exceptional" and has had a negative impact on the quality and availability of evidence.
Young people have been "caught in the middle of a stormy social discourse", Dr Cass says.
"There are few other areas of healthcare where professionals are so afraid to openly discuss their views, where people are vilified on social media, and where name-calling echoes the worst bullying behaviour.""
 
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As well as the acknowledged comorbidity between autism and gender identity issues, I strongly believe that for a lot of girls adopting gender-neutral or masculine presentations is a way of side-stepping the pornification of contemporary culture.
Yep my daughter's identity issues started when puberty reared , she felt she was becoming different to most girls , she wasn't keen on gossiping she likes climbing trees and activity stuff. The boys were started to become attracted to her so she felt she didn't fit in there either , luckily she's found a lovely ND group who are similar and she's happy.
 
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Also it doesn't help that even cutting your hair is seen as transitioning. My daughter asked to cut her hair because of sensory issues. Since the chop she has been asked repeatedly is she transitioning and what her new name is!!!! :mad::mad:
She's growing it back because of this ! It's gone too far can't even have a hair cut without the trans lobby. Being a girl is much more than the length of your hair!!
This is what bothers me about this trans movement. Its so reductive of what it actually means to be a woman.

It's not just clothing, makeup and hairstyles. Get ta duck
 
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James O Brien on LBC now asking why everyone is so bothered about transgenderism when it doesn't affect their kids...

No mention of women's spaces.
 
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This is what bothers me about this trans movement. Its so reductive of what it actually means to be a woman.

It's not just clothing, makeup and hairstyles. Get ta duck
It's become a fetish pornification, ever notice how most transgender women never wear subtle clothing ? It's all high heels mini skirts and long hair.
 
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Second headline on Sky News.

"The paediatrician said her review was "not about defining what it means to be trans, nor is it about undermining the validity of trans identities".

However, she cautioned that strong feelings on trans issues were having a damaging effect.

She said experienced clinicians had at times been "dismissed and invalidated" and that young people had been "caught in the middle of a stormy social discourse".

"There are few other areas of healthcare where professionals are so afraid to openly discuss their views, where people are vilified on social media, and where name-calling echoes the worst bullying behaviour. This must stop," she wrote."


Also on Sky News, Dr David Bell believes "the pendulum has swung and the Cass Report gives a huge momentum to that pendulum".
 
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Does anyone think that this is just a massive trend and will fade away eventually or will we have to put up with this and worse forever???

My sons about to start primary school and I’m worrying about the indoctrination already.
 
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James O Brien on LBC now asking why everyone is so bothered about transgenderism when it doesn't affect their kids...

No mention of women's spaces.
I just turned this on and listening to a parent of an autistic trans kid and just felt so sorry for the parent who just wants to do the best for their child. I think maybe it’s two seperate issues isn’t it and the report doesn’t really cover women’s rights and spaces and I’ve been so cross about that I’ve not really thought about how hard it must be for parents of these children. I have two autistic kids who didn’t follow the ‘rules’ that children are meant to - stickers charts and time outs never worked here, I was always the parent having to talk to the teacher and having to ask all the questions and make a fuss. It’s is bloody hard to swim against the tide when you just want the best for your child. And I just feel sad from this report today as these parents had desperately unhappy children and they went for help and were let down by people they thought knew best. And yes maybe they should have known better but I’m an intelligent, raging feminist who’s up with all current events and it’s only the past six months I’ve realised what is going on here. I just feel so for those poor children and families.
 
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James O Brien on LBC now asking why everyone is so bothered about transgenderism when it doesn't affect their kids...

No mention of women's spaces.
Sorry, he's just said he doesn't want to talk about that as it's not related to the Cass report.
 
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James O Brien on LBC now asking why everyone is so bothered about transgenderism when it doesn't affect their kids...

No mention of women's spaces.
Even if it didn’t impact women’s spaces, this is eugenics. If you were trying to wipe out the autistic population, this would be a great place to start
 
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Now he is talking about it and the levels of toxicity...

I'll stop live updates now - jeez James, make up your mind.
 
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