Gender Discussion #55

[Weebles Wobble]

It's all linked to #BeKind. Ultimately what can be more knowingly cruel than feeding someone a steady diet of lies and insincere praise disguised as kindness and encouragement?

You tell your tone death best friend that she has a lovely voice. She then chooses to audition for a role in a musical and is humiliated with the sudden realisation that she can't sing. Does she actually learn anything? Not really because in order to #BeKind you then tell them that the casting director, who probably had years of successful experience in the field, actually knows nothing and she should continue to follow her dream. She then reaches 45 with dream unfulfilled and suddenly realises that kind people are full of tit.

Or you tell your friend, who is frankly built like a dump truck, that she has a perfect womanly figure and is an absolute ten. She then pours herself into a completely inappropriate dress, goes out on Saturday night, tries to flirt with the most handsome man in the club and is humiliated when he rejects her. Again does she learn? Well no not really, because you tell her that all men are guys and she was too good for him anyway. But who is the actual b here? The man who has no allegiance to her and tells her simple truth? Or the woman who's supposed to be her friend who had told her nothing but lies over an extended period?

Encouragement and kindness are good and noble concepts. But surely they have to be based on some level of constructive reality?

And this is a perfect description of what happens in the online trans communities I lurk in. They are encouraging men that they "pass" and look gorgeous. These men return to the group, rejected out in the real world feeling depressed and defeated only to be told how bigoted and phobic other people are. Maybe they were jealous of his fabulous figure or felt intimidated by his dazzling femininity?

And so the cycle continues.

 

[NeverEnough]

And this is a perfect description of what happens in the online trans communities I lurk in. They are encouraging men that they "pass" and look gorgeous. These men return to the group, rejected out in the real world feeling depressed and defeated only to be told how bigoted and phobic other people are. Maybe they were jealous of his fabulous figure or felt intimidated by his dazzling femininity?

And so the cycle continues.

Whatever happened to the old saying, "If one or two people have a problem with you then the fault may lie with them, if multiple people have a problem with you the problem probably lies with you."

 

[Copacapybara]

Those fawners also seem to hate good looking women, slim women and confident women. The number of times someone clearly wearing a hideously unflattering outfit that displays all their flaws us told they look stunning and gorgeous is unreal
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It's all linked to #BeKind. Ultimately what can be more knowingly cruel than feeding someone a steady diet of lies and insincere praise disguised as kindness and encouragement?

You tell your tone death best friend that she has a lovely voice. She then chooses to audition for a role in a musical and is humiliated with the sudden realisation that she can't sing. Does she actually learn anything? Not really because in order to #BeKind you then tell them that the casting director, who probably had years of successful experience in the field, actually knows nothing and she should continue to follow her dream. She then reaches 45 with dream unfulfilled and suddenly realises that kind people are full of tit.

Or you tell your friend, who is frankly built like a dump truck, that she has a perfect womanly figure and is an absolute ten. She then pours herself into a completely inappropriate dress, goes out on Saturday night, tries to flirt with the most handsome man in the club and is humiliated when he rejects her. Again does she learn? Well no not really, because you tell her that all men are guys and she was too good for him anyway. But who is the actual b here? The man who has no allegiance to her and tells her simple truth? Or the woman who's supposed to be her friend who had told her nothing but lies over an extended period?

Encouragement and kindness are good and noble concepts. But surely they have to be based on some level of constructive reality?

Exactly, they are only kind to the perceived ‘frumpier’ women because patronising them gives a vicarious sense of superiority and power.

 

[Vacuous]

Yup. I know several women who surround themselves socially with women who they perceive as lesser than them ( poorer, fatter, less attractive etc) in order to boost their own self esteem.

 

[maytoseptember]

I've only scanned this article - one of the people being quoted is 'Dr' Vanessa Lacey - a TIM - their PhD is is 'Grief and Loss' - not medically qualified, yet this person has been advising Irish parents via (quote from their website) 'an Irish based gender-identity business' to send their children to Belgium for trans treatment. And the HSE has (allegedly) referred patients to this organisation.
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Quoting myself now - to add - left to right in this photograph - Simon Harris, Minister for Higher Education, R&D and Science, Noah Halpin - a transman and health officer (no qualifications) with TENI (Ireland's Stonewall) and the infamous Dr Teetus Deletus who is under investiagtion for performing 'top surgery' on minors in the US (I think).

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I never would have guessed that little manlet was a TIF /s

 

[skvallertant]

My email signature is in the terf suffragette colours, if you know, you know! 🤍

Brilliant! I'm going to edit mine on Monday!

 

[gimm3more]

Jesus wept

 

[Yer_wha?!]

I'm social media friends with a man who now says he's a woman. Changed his forename to that of a mythological female goddess, and everything is "squishies" and cute emojis now. It's very telling that *that* is what it he thinks it takes to be accepted as a woman, or how women communicate. So insulting. Sadly, he has a load of handmaidens who constantly cheerlead him with all the "you go girl" garbage. How can these women not see they're having the p*ss taken out of them?

 

[Vacuous]

I have successfully Terfed most of my female colleagues. It helps that I'm the boss and very, very clever but still, I'll take any wins.

 

[emmer_moans]

I'm social media friends with a man who now says he's a woman. Changed his forename to that of a mythological female goddess, and everything is "squishies" and cute emojis now. It's very telling that *that* is what it he thinks it takes to be accepted as a woman, or how women communicate. So insulting. Sadly, he has a load of handmaidens who constantly cheerlead him with all the "you go girl" garbage. How can these women not see they're having the p*ss taken out of them?

FFS! What is it always greek goddess names?!
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I have successfully Terfed most of my female colleagues. It helps that I'm the boss and very, very clever but still, I'll take any wins.

I wish you were my boss.

 

[hazelnot]

I'm just going to leave this comment here.....

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(From a TIM's post on Reddit)

It's a ridiculous statement to make because they have no reference point. It's like when 12-year-old boys argue in class that being kicked in the nuts is THE worst pain EVER. Girls don't have testicles so can't fairly argue whether it is or isn't, and boys don't have girl bits so can't possibly know what pain many women experience. Same here - you've never had a real period, so what ground do you have to stand on to be so adamant that yours are worse than natural? It's not even the same process. You're comparing stomach (?) cramps with uterine, which actually makes such a steadfast claim more laughable - no man has ever experienced a period, but many women have experienced food poisoning. We know the difference. Yet somehow they still know better 🫠

 

[Vacuous]

I just say it's a load of regressive, homophobic, misogynistic nonsense which fails to safeguard women and children and as such I'll not tolerate it at work. They get it. They see.

 

[blahblahboring]

I’m part of a FB grouo (not Popsy) predominantly made up of women in their 40’s. We have a guy in the group who does a lot of drag, to my knowledge he’s not said anything about being a woman but every few days he does a preachy, lecturing post about how we all need to BE KIND. It raises my hackles, mostly because I hate being told what to do, especially by strangers! But I feel like BE KIND is actually code for:

• don’t speak up for yourself, even when someone else is making you uncomfortable
• Other people’s feelings (MEN’S feelings) matter more than yours
• You have no right to comment on anyone else’s behaviour - no matter how inappropriate, because they might be going through *something* and that is more important than your safety and wellbeing, even if you yourself have also gone through mental health challenges or assault etc

It’s really starting to piss me off. I asked my husband if he’s ever been preached to about BEING KIND and he looked at me like I had 2 heads. He had never even heard the phrase. Be Kind is really just the new way of saying, Get back into the kitchen and make me a sandwich.

 

[VeniVidiVicki]

Men are never ever told to BE KIND. It’s scolding reserved exclusively for women.

 

[Vacuous]

Yup. Be Kind can duck off to the far side of duck and when it gets there it can duck off some more.

 

[Tofino]

I don’t think it’s very kind to tell children and teens they can be born in the wrong body

I don’t think it’s very kind to put women and children at higher risk of sexual assault, grape etc.

I also don’t think it’s very kind that more and more women and girls are unable to get on the podium in sports because a man is standing there instead.

I could go on but you get the idea. But those shouting be kind need to take a hard look at themselves first.

 

[Avenged7Fold]

Just been watching Celebrity Gogglebox and there was a “person” I thought was a bit off. Googled them and it’s a TiM called Munroe Bergdorf. I’ve never heard of him before but he’s a nasty piece of work. I’m surprised at Channel 4 giving him airtime

 

[VC10]

#bekind


#becunts


duck off! I say - Stick your bleeping bekind mantra-tit up yer bleeping a..

On this topic,I will not back down nor compromise my sayings so as to not upset Arthur Mullard in a nylon syrup , or cause Eddie Izzard to pass out in a faint.


They can get stuffed & so can the bleeping horse they've ridden in on.


Women , are Women.

Men , are Men.

All Human Beings, Homo Sapien.

Biology , DNA , Chromosomes & internal bodily organs give us our differences. And that, ol darling ... is that.

 

[Lucyxxxx]

Yup. I know several women who surround themselves socially with women who they perceive as lesser than them ( poorer, fatter, less attractive etc) in order to boost their own self esteem.

Not to be big headed but I've been on the other end of this a fair bit. Despite my tomboyish ways when younger I would be the only one not invited to group outings to meet lads... that sort of thing. Had a cousin throw herself at someone everyone knew I liked to try prove some point and make me feel a right head. My fellas family (only the women funnily enough) do not like me AT ALL and always had a sly thing to say to try 'bring me down a notch' when I did nothing but be nice and friendly. How dare I be confident in myself and *gasps* slim. I think it has gotten under people's skins as well I will dress like a man and still always did pull the good looking guys the other girls liked...

 

[Metropolis]

It’s really starting to piss me off. I asked my husband if he’s ever been preached to about BEING KIND and he looked at me like I had 2 heads. He had never even heard the phrase. Be Kind is really just the new way of saying, Get back into the kitchen and make me a sandwich.

Yeah, the amount of women’s and girls’ t shirts I’ve seen in the last couple of years with “Be Kind” emblazoned on them with a hearts and flowers motif beggars belief. You NEVER see a t shirt in the men’s or boys’ section in regular shops with those words on. Sexist, subjugating, tit.