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But there’s a difference between your kid’s dad or a trusted male relative doing that and a random man, especially if it’s an AGP perv. I mean just look at this:
Yes but all that means is the person getting the results of the DRB won’t know the check has been done on different names. Doesn’t mean their previous name won’t be checked 🙄
 
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Wow, it takes a special kind of wick to blame the women for a man competing in their space.
the same kind of wick who when women are unhappy at pen in their changing room tell the women they shouldn't be looking.
 
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If a transgender person applies for a DBS check, they are just as obliged to disclose their previous names as anyone else is (no different to a married woman having to disclose their maiden name etc) and you sign to say you understand that. Many also do consent to their previous name being declared on the certificate. *If* they have convictions under their previous name/declared sex, they are published on the certificate. Even with a change of name, someone can still be matched to a criminal record via National Insurance number, previous addresses, DVLA/passport info etc.
 
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If a transgender person applies for a DBS check, they are just as obliged to disclose their previous names as anyone else is (no different to a married woman having to disclose their maiden name etc) and you sign to say you understand that. Many also do consent to their previous name being declared on the certificate. *If* they have convictions under their previous name/declared sex, they are published on the certificate. Even with a change of name, someone can still be matched to a criminal record via National Insurance number, previous addresses, DVLA/passport info etc.
I don’t trust the people carrying out the checks to do that with any of the types of people using it though, same with sex offenders who legally change their names
 
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One rule for everyone except them. it’s an absolute gift for for perverts to bypass safety checks completely. I know the politicians tell us it doesn’t happen but we all know it does.
There is a nursery near me that caters for children with additional needs. I looked at their web page because I’d be interested in working there.
There was a page of staff photos. One of them was a mature man with straggly grey hair. He looked like he should have a dog on a string. It set off my radar very strongly. I looked the webpage again yesterday and his photo has gone.
My husband said I’m a harsh judge, but men don’t seem to have a wrong ‘un radar like women do.
 
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I don’t trust the people carrying out the checks to do that with any of the types of people using it though, same with sex offenders who legally change their names

They are done via the national police records so although the police are far from perfect, I would mainly trust them on this one.
 
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I don't feel comfortable calling a man 'she/her', it just doesn't sit right,
If I had surgery to look Japanese and started calling myself Mrs Hashimoto and expecting people to go along with it I'm sure there would be plenty of people with something to say.
I don't have the lived experience a Japanese, Pakistani, Finnish or Italian person has had and to me it's the same thing. You can't be someone you biologically or culturally aren't.
Queue Olly London and Rachel Dolezal entering the chat 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Exactly. No kind of belief has ever been illegal.
It's not illegal to say "I believe all black people are theives" or "I believe all gay people are pedophiles" "all Muslims are terrorists". Even making those statements to members of those groups is not illegal.

What is illegal is to harass, intimidate or threaten members of those groups based on those beliefs. It is illegal to encourage others to agree with those beliefs in order to encourage further harassment.

The same with hate crimes. Its not a hate crime just because a crime is committed against a member of one of those groups, its a hate crime if the crime is motivated by the fact the victim is a member of a certain demographic. If a man goes out every weekend getting in fights, and one weekend the guy he gets in a fight with is a gay man, it's not a hate crime. Even if he uses homophobic slurs during it. If a man goes out every weekend specifically targeting gay men, treating them in a way he would not treat a straight man that would be a hate crime.

TRAs as usual want extra rights.
See if they want to really push the hate crime element every female DV and grape victim is also a hate crime victim as they were targeted/victimised for being women
 
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They are done via the national police records so although the police are far from perfect, I would mainly trust them on this one.
I know systems have improved since the soham murders but the fact that police forces aren’t joined up is a real flaw in the system. And it’s up to individual forces to decide how they record someone accused of a crime. Many allow the accused to decide which sex is recorded

Police system failings contributed to the murders of Jessica Chapman and Hollie Wells https://www.archive.is/oldest/https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2003/dec/17/soham.ukcrime2
 
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Plus the awkwardness and difficult of having a period is often very related to the actual bleeding. So having to plan what to wear, where you can change your sanitary wear, worrying you've leaked in your clothes, trying to clean things that do have blood on them... The pain is a big part of it but, for me, it's the 💩 that is the worst for me
AMEN!! TMI but my period came 2 days early this week, and has been more heavy than normal and let’s just say I was walking around the supermarket when it came on and I instantly knew I needed to carefully walk to the toilets. Luckily i always have a spare pad in my bag. But as i say it was heavy and I unfortunately bled through my jeans :cry::rolleyes: Luckily it is winter so I was wearing a thick long and dark trenchcoat over my outfit, so I did what I could to clean up and went back to my shopping and got home. As you say, the :poop: is bad for me that time of the month. Men don’t have to deal with being achey, sweaty, sometimes suffering with gross dodgy :poop: as well as menstrual blood and cramps and nausea and headaches. Most months I have a typical period but once in a while i’ll get one that gives me migraines and makes me feel faint etc. Men don’t have to always remember to carry a pad or tampon or spare cup of whatever. I even have a spare pair on pants rolled up into a little zip pouch in my bag because accidents do happen. I don’t wear light trousers that time of month because I just don’t dare. Men just don’t need to give any of this stuff any headspace
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Just in, Izzard hasn’t been selected to run as Labours Girl Mode candidate in Brighton. Common sense prevails (a bit)

Thank feck for that.
 
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These recordings of non crime hate incidents infuriate beyond no end. All the serious actual crimes men do to women and get away with on a daily basis, but a woman making a comment about a man’s appearance that’s not even a crime gets recorded as a hate incident.
Yes, grape is practically legal, women are murdered by men literally on a daily basis, sexual assault is rife on public transport, in schools and in many workplaces, but if you're a woman who dared to laugh at a man in a dress you can expect to feel the full force of the law 🙄
 
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If I owned a nursery I’d never employ a man. Well over 90% of our prison estate are men and the vast majority are there for sex offences.
 
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If I owned a nursery I’d never employ a man. Well over 90% of our prison estate are men and the vast majority are there for sex offences.
I have to disagree with you on this one I’m afraid. When my kids were little, their nursery employed a young guy who was fully trained and vetted. He was fantastic and added a new dynamic to the place. Some of the kids had no male role models in their life so this was very beneficial to them too. And helped brake down gender stereotypes that, yes, a man can be a nursery practitioner just as much as a woman can be a CEO. However the guy moved on after 9 months due to snide, sexist comments from other parents which was such a shame.
 
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I have to disagree with you on this one I’m afraid. When my kids were little, their nursery employed a young guy who was fully trained and vetted. He was fantastic and added a new dynamic to the place. Some of the kids had no male role models in their life so this was very beneficial to them too. And helped brake down gender stereotypes that, yes, a man can be a nursery practitioner just as much as a woman can be a CEO. However the guy moved on after 9 months due to snide, sexist comments from other parents which was such a shame.
Totally agree. Shocking that anyone can state that they wouldn't hire a man and as illegal as people not hiring women. I love this thread but the hypocrisy on here is outrageous
 
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In that case she should've said he was an weird man wearing a wig. Must remember that for future reference. In for a penny.....
Mate, I'm so sick of these goblins being referred to as 'she'. Even the most unfortunate looking woman would never be as startlingly weird as one of these munters.
 
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