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Folx - a polite reminder please to stop using the words woman or female. IT'S LITERAL GENOCIDE. On a serious note though, the world is 100% ducked and I'm terrified.
 
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Was just thinking the exact same. But where is the outcry for clear language for those people? They are minorities too and we are talking about actual health here and people’s lives. Does inclusivity not extend to those with English as a second language or those with learning difficulties? Nope. Gender identity trumps all. Disgraceful.
I think one of the problems is these groups are woefully under represented in health research so their opinions are not being heard. It's still usually white middle class/university educated people who volunteer to take part in patient engagement forums looking at health messaging so their opinions end up being the dominant ones.

It's the same with changing from single sex to mixed sex facilities. Doing so will exclude Muslim and other orthodox religious women from using them as they aren't permitted to share them with men. Funny how no one seems to get annoyed about their rights being infringed on Twitter!
 
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The census thing was sadly so predictable and will have an impact for years to come as they say in the article. Lots of nice LGBT+ groups will set up projects for the large trans communities of Brent and Newham etc. which will be of no benefit to those whose English was t good enough to understand the census.

I did see a comment at how we should be asking stonewall and other trans projects how well represented Muslims etc are on their boards and in their beneficiaries.
 
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NEU has voted to be ideologically driven and ignor protections and safeguarding for the children in their charge

 
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What a mess:

Is this because because being gay isn't allowed in Islam?
 
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Is this because because being gay isn't allowed in Islam?
Part of it. But if you change gender then you’re not gay or les anymore according to them. That’s why it’s big in Iran. Not because they are progressive, because they hate gay and les people.
 
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Curious to hear opinions on this. My SiL who prides herself on being an ultra woke progressive parent has put both her sons (age 4 and 6) in frilly dresses for the village Easter parade and naturally splashed the pics over her insta. I am a parent of an 8yo girl and in my time parenting and even since my niece was born whos now 12, I’ve only come across one little boy who wanted to wear dresses out of the house and considered himself “non binary”, he was 7 and it was a short lived phase. Is it really so common now that 2 boys in one family want to wear dresses in public? My 4 brothers didn’t do this stuff at all either. I also grew up in a similar rural english village and I’m quite surprised if times are so changed that the boys wouldn’t get bullied for wearing dresses, they’re not babies. I don’t live in the U.K. anymore to be fair.

In my experience from dd’s boy friends since she was this age (4/6) they tend to all be into the same stuff which yes is “boy coded” eg dinosaurs instead of princesses, and they don’t wear pink or dresses at least out of the house. Kids can be cruel and I’d be worried about bullying, my dd even got stick from her male friends for wearing a unicorn top around this age, and then also got accused of “looking like a boy” by a little girl when she went more tomboyish in her clothing.

Maybe one of the boys like the littler one doing this I could get, but if you’re the mum buying the clothes I feel it could be just another display behaviour to show how “speshul” and not like other mums, she is. I could be totally off and of course kids should be free to express themselves as they are, but this just feels like it’s for the gram and it makes me cringe hard.
 
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Curious to hear opinions on this. My SiL who prides herself on being an ultra woke progressive parent has put both her sons (age 4 and 6) in frilly dresses for the village Easter parade and naturally splashed the pics over her insta. I am a parent of an 8yo girl and in my time parenting and even since my niece was born whos now 12, I’ve only come across one little boy who wanted to wear dresses out of the house and considered himself “non binary”, he was 7 and it was a short lived phase. Is it really so common now that 2 boys in one family want to wear dresses in public? My 4 brothers didn’t do this stuff at all either. I also grew up in a similar rural english village and I’m quite surprised if times are so changed that the boys wouldn’t get bullied for wearing dresses, they’re not babies. I don’t live in the U.K. anymore to be fair.

In my experience from dd’s boy friends since she was this age (4/6) they tend to all be into the same stuff which yes is “boy coded” eg dinosaurs instead of princesses, and they don’t wear pink or dresses at least out of the house. Kids can be cruel and I’d be worried about bullying, my dd even got stick from her male friends for wearing a unicorn top around this age, and then also got accused of “looking like a boy” by a little girl when she went more tomboyish in her clothing.

Maybe one of the boys like the littler one doing this I could get, but if you’re the mum buying the clothes I feel it could be just another display behaviour to show how “speshul” and not like other mums, she is. I could be totally off and of course kids should be free to express themselves as they are, but this just feels like it’s for the gram and it makes me cringe hard.
Sounds like virtue signalling to me. Like you said, it would be a huge coincidence for 2 boys in the same family to come to this conclusion without some influence.
 
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I'm here. Lots of police. Can't hear any TRAs.
I stayed until 2pm, was getting tired and hungry and couldn't hear much - when I left, it was still peaceful. I hope it stayed that way. I made a point of thanking the 3 nearest police guys as I left for being there to protect our right to free speech, and they were very pleasant.
 
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No, you don't.....
You also need a pair of nuts a Prostate, several other internal organs,Chromosome and DNA too....and different brain-pans ...and a few other differences.
Just like vice-versa for a Man to be a Woman.

The sign should read " I do not need a pen to live my life resembling/looking similar to a Man " as she will never be a Man.
Just as Men will never be Women.

Immutable fact.

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This is horrific. They don't even give themselves a chance at being a woman. Imagine being that young and will never know how amazing sex can be with someone you love because you've basically lobotomised yourself with hormones and surgery. So sad.
The previous generation only had to regret a belly button piercing 😞
 
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I stayed until 2pm, was getting tired and hungry and couldn't hear much - when I left, it was still peaceful. I hope it stayed that way. I made a point of thanking the 3 nearest police guys as I left for being there to protect our right to free speech, and they were very pleasant.
I left at 3 and still travelling now. It was still going when i left. Was so nice to feel safe and be able to hear whst wss being said.
 
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i stayed the entire time and was my first time
def going back again
so nice to meet fellow women fighting the good fight
i brought home a postcard but my cousin will disown me if she sees it so hidden in a book for now....
 
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Curious to hear opinions on this. My SiL who prides herself on being an ultra woke progressive parent has put both her sons (age 4 and 6) in frilly dresses for the village Easter parade and naturally splashed the pics over her insta. I am a parent of an 8yo girl and in my time parenting and even since my niece was born whos now 12, I’ve only come across one little boy who wanted to wear dresses out of the house and considered himself “non binary”, he was 7 and it was a short lived phase. Is it really so common now that 2 boys in one family want to wear dresses in public? My 4 brothers didn’t do this stuff at all either. I also grew up in a similar rural english village and I’m quite surprised if times are so changed that the boys wouldn’t get bullied for wearing dresses, they’re not babies. I don’t live in the U.K. anymore to be fair.

In my experience from dd’s boy friends since she was this age (4/6) they tend to all be into the same stuff which yes is “boy coded” eg dinosaurs instead of princesses, and they don’t wear pink or dresses at least out of the house. Kids can be cruel and I’d be worried about bullying, my dd even got stick from her male friends for wearing a unicorn top around this age, and then also got accused of “looking like a boy” by a little girl when she went more tomboyish in her clothing.

Maybe one of the boys like the littler one doing this I could get, but if you’re the mum buying the clothes I feel it could be just another display behaviour to show how “speshul” and not like other mums, she is. I could be totally off and of course kids should be free to express themselves as they are, but this just feels like it’s for the gram and it makes me cringe hard.
I'm all for kids wearing whatever, but I have an extremely narcissistic friend who puts her little boy in dresses for attention on Facebook. She's one of those awful sorts who has burnt every real life bridge so she has to fart her every thought and meal onto Facebook for attention.

She's not remotely woke though, when we were friends and the little lad was a baby she'd specifically ask me for obviously "boy stuff" when I bought him clothes.
 
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