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As it’s International Women’s Day, who are some of your favourite female authors/books you love by women? My favourite authors include Jacqueline Wilson, Cathy Cassidy, Holly Bourne, Shirley Jackson, Diana Wynne Jones, and J.K. Rowling. My favourite book is We Have Always Lived In The Castle by Shirley Jackson 🤓
My shout out is to this wonderful author, read her book Boy at the Back of the Class with my son and we both cried a few times. Best bit is she’s an outspoken TERF 🤗💞 and not the kind Owen jones or Nicola S like to acknowledge as it doesn’t fit their racist/fascist bigot narrative.
 
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I'm not suprised about this post from Anna Saccone, a woman who has been implicit in the manipulation and grooming of her son to believe he is a girl. She's absolutely thick as two short planks but wtf is this shop doing posting this flag on international women's day?!
 

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I haven’t been able to reply to everyone about their favourite female authors, but I’m so glad that everyone has shared. I’m going to sound a little soppy, but it’s so nice to see that there are so many amazing women who have inspired us in the greatest joy that is reading. I was very sick as a child so I was often in hospital, and reading became a salvation for me. Jacqueline Wilson was a godsend with her books as they kept me going. I had the honour of meeting her last year at a talk and she was lovely and that honestly made my entire life 😅😅 happy International Women’s Day, you brilliant women. You’re all amazing 💕
 
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I've just read this article about a scientist who's made eggs from male mice cells. It's nowhere near ready to be used on humans or proven safe to do so, but the scientist also said this: "Prof Hayashi said he would not be in favour of it being used by a man to create a baby using his own sperm and artificially created eggs."
 
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The UK public does not believe TWAW.

86% don’t want TW in Womens’ changing rooms.
83% don’t want TW in Women’s toilets.
79% don’t want TW in grape Crisis centres.
89% don’t want TW in Women’s sports
84%+ don’t want TW in Women’s’ prisons.

This is stark and unambiguous.


I’m trying to get my head around the fact that 21% of people think that it’s perfectly acceptable for biological men to be in grape crisis centres….
 
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I've just read this article about a scientist who's made eggs from male mice cells. It's nowhere near ready to be used on humans or proven safe to do so, but the scientist also said this: "Prof Hayashi said he would not be in favour of it being used by a man to create a baby using his own sperm and artificially created eggs."
I hope this doesn't go any further. Messing with genes like that is just asking for trouble.
 
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Something I've been raging internally over for a long time is the lack of research into women's reproduction, periods etc.
I'm one of three women I've ever met (my Mama, another) who has never suffered side effects from periods. Doesn't matter the time of month, I'll still be hiking, dancing, sparring with male boxers etc without a thought.
Meanwhile, a cousin will literally be on the floor doubled up crying and sleeps on towels.
A friend is very health-conscious in her lifestyle and diet - and has always been so - and yet has all kinds of issues with her periods.
Why?
Why isn't there research done into it?
What are/are there the correlations between the side effects and health/ability to conceive/etc? Are there differences between ethnicities, climate, and so on?
Do child-bearing hips have any impact? (Had to add that one haha)
Why do some girls settle into their cycle pretty much instantly as they hit puberty and others still can't rely on anything well into their 20s? (Cause everyone is different is not a good enough answer for me!)
How has the Pill changed things? Does it/howso impact on puberty/hormones and fertility for the offspring of women who've been on it for any/long length of time?
I know we're expensive to study because of our monthly hormone fluctuations but seriously!

How The Pill Changes Everything by Sarah Hill shows there is a lot to be studied.
So why aren't we?

As it’s International Women’s Day, who are some of your favourite female authors/books you love by women? My favourite authors include Jacqueline Wilson, Cathy Cassidy, Holly Bourne, Shirley Jackson, Diana Wynne Jones, and J.K. Rowling. My favourite book is We Have Always Lived In The Castle by Shirley Jackson 🤓
I will undoubtedly will remember more in a few hours, however, as a start and listed in absolutely no order (this is a selection...):

Jane Austen, Bronte sisters, Elizabeth Gaskell, Elinor M.Brent-Dyer, Alison Weir, Mary Cavendish, Sarah Gristwood, Georgette Heyer, Tracy Borman, Dorita Fairlie Bruce, Betty Neels, Mary Burchell (who under her real name, Ida Cook, wrote a memoir - INCREDIBLE woman), Antonia Fraser, Hildegard von Bingen, Leanda de Lisle, Nancy Mitford, Anne Applebaum, Elizabeth Chadwick

Authors I have loved since childhood and will never part with (and will read to my future children): Elyne Mitchell, Lorna Hill, Noel Streatfeild, May Gibbs, Jean Estoril, Beatrix Potter, Enid Blyton, Dorothy Wall, Pullein-Thompson sisters, Frances Hodgson Burnett

The School That Escaped The Nazis by Deborah Cadbury is a fantastic read about Anna Essinger and her tireless efforts to help Jewish children make it to safety in the UK. (Non-fiction)
The Dreaming Sex is an anthology of Victorian era scifi stories by women.
Mary Lovell's biographies on the Mitford sisters & Bess of Hardwick. (Non-fiction)
Wellington's Dearest Georgy by Alice Marie Crossland is an unexpected gem. (Non-fiction)
Judith Koll Healy's The Canterbury Papers, & The Rebel Princess are fun reads about Princess Alaïs of France.

Project Gutenberg has an amazing array of old books available online with many women writers.
 
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Don’t know if this has been mentioned but the QueenConsort hosted a IWD reception at BP. From the pictures it seemed to be all (female) women
 
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Don’t know if this has been mentioned but the QueenConsort hosted a IWD reception at BP. From the pictures it seemed to be all (female) women
Camilla’s a TERF I bet. She works closely with grape and DV charities so won’t be buying into this BS being peddled.
 
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100%!! And even the ethics of it all is questionable
I always have Ian Malcolm from Jurassic park in my head when I read these

Scientists so obsessed with whether or not they could that they didn’t stop to think if they should.
 
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I was watching a Kathleen stock video last night and I agree with her on trans (actual not suddenly self ID) women in prisons. They shouldn’t be in the female estate however there are clear safety concerns for them in male prisons. Female space is not a free-for all shield and therefore a 3rd space specific to trans needs seems the correct option.

could also argue that gay effeminate men are nearly as vulnerable in mens prisons
 
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Wow brilliant and copied here for those who want to read:

I’M SICK TO bleeping DEATH OF HEARING OF HOW everything bleeping hurts trans people’s feelings & how I’m obliged to erase myself & my reality, constantly police my speech & have it policed for me, & walk on eggshells to center their narcissistic fragility.

I’m sick to bleeping death hearing that trans people are the most oppressed people in the entire world. Affluent, western white men in their 30s, 40s, 50s wearing dresses are not bleeping oppressed AT ALL, let alone more than poor black & brown girls in the developing world.

I’m sick to bleeping death hearing that TW being told they can’t get their wicks out in places where women & girls are vulnerable is denying them rights & the worst possible hardship any human has ever faced. If that’s the worst you ever face you are privileged, not oppressed.

I’m sick to bleeping death of women being asked to prove that vast numbers of us are in peril of brutal grape & death for our objections to sharing private spaces with males to be considered valid, & anything short of that being seen as an acceptable price to validate.

I’m sick to bleeping death of hearing that TWAW even if they take no hormones, have no surgery, see no doctors, get no diagnosis, experience no dysphoria, & keep their beards, but when we ask questions suddenly all the TW will kill themselves from triggered dysphoria.

I’m sick to bleeping death hearing that women talking about surviving male violence are “weaponizing their trauma” against trans people when the entire trans movement is founded on the weaponized trauma of their (supposed) dysphoria & emotional blackmail.

I’m sick to bleeping death of hearing “no one’s saying sex isn’t real” & “sex & gender are different” while being told there’s no such thing as a biological female, women have wicks, males have periods & get cervical cancer, a clitoris is just a small pen.

I’m sick to bleeping death of hearing how hard it is to be trans when every politician, mainstream media outlet, corporation, charity, & celebrity is in the thrall of trans ideology while women who say humans can’t change sex are vilified, doxxed, fired, & otherwise cancelled.

I’m sick to bleeping death of hearing that endometriosis, menstruation, miscarriage, abortion, street harassment, sexual objectification, & unpaid domestic labor are examples of “cis privilege.”

I’m sick to bleeping death of being told that women & girls who dare to set boundaries are hateful bigots; that men are entitled to decide whether our boundaries are justified & whether they will be granted; & that straight dysphoric men are entitled to sex from lesbians.

I’m sick to bleeping death of white people with BLM in their bios saying women who say humans can’t change sex are the same as nazis and white supremacists while also saying that black women are indistinguishable from dysphoric men.

I’m sick to bleeping death of being told that “humans can’t change sex” is the epitome of violent hatred but “choke on my large ladycock, t*rf bleep,” “kill t*rfs,” “t*rfs get grape with my barbed wire-wrapped baseball bat” are considered justifiable, if not downright righteous.

I’m sick to bleeping death of hearing that injured male pride is a catastrophic violation of human rights that must be avoided at all costs, up to and including the sacrifice of female bodies—but female rights & trauma are at best irrelevant. Sick. To. bleeping. Death."
@feminist_rachel
on twitter
 
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Something I've been raging internally over for a long time is the lack of research into women's reproduction, periods etc.
I'm one of three women I've ever met (my Mama, another) who has never suffered side effects from periods. Doesn't matter the time of month, I'll still be hiking, dancing, sparring with male boxers etc without a thought.
Meanwhile, a cousin will literally be on the floor doubled up crying and sleeps on towels.
A friend is very health-conscious in her lifestyle and diet - and has always been so - and yet has all kinds of issues with her periods.
Why?
Why isn't there research done into it?
You’re lucky. My 11yo woke up with horrendous cramps this morning and was yelling at me to help her.

But in answer to your question, there is no research because women’s health is low priority, women’s pain is all in their head (especially if the pain is coming from organs that men don’t have). That’s why gynae procedures are done with no pain relief. If men had contraceptive coils forced into their bodies it would be done under general anaesthetic. Actually, if men needed coils, coils would never have been put into use on the grounds of being too brutal and deleterious to well-being.

Just yesterday on social media I saw a woman tell an anecdote that, as a doctor was giving her stitches after giving birth, she complained of pain but he said it was only “pressure” because her epidural hadn’t worn off. Then when he’d finished, she got out of bed to prove that it had. That’s women’s health in a nutshell.
 
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Odd. Camilla was President of WOW atleast until last years IWD but it's not listed on her current patronages, the article says former President but I can't find anything about when and why she stepped down.
 
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