Surely Canada has plenty to be dealing with rather than this!
- Status
New to Tattle Life? Click "Order Thread by Most Liked Posts" button below to get an idea of what the site is about:
100% agree. As a bi woman, I am so, so sick of being lumped in with trans people - regardless of your stance on transgender issues, it's not the same! LGB are sexualities, T is not. We're not all some kind of homogenous community in the first place, never mind adding on various letters to add in yet another "marginalised group".
I'd like to think this wasn't your intention, @SueDoyou, but you've clearly just shown that you place the mental and physical health of men who decide they "feel like women", over lesbians and bi women - can you explain why that is? Are we somehow less important? You claim ~not all trans women~ yet have stated that you think trans women should be in an LGBT area rather than with the general female population, and there's obviously a reason for that. Interesting that you're willing to go to bat for "trans women" but not the rest of the "LGBT community".
What is black and white is that you cannot change your sex. Trans identified males are not and never will be women. As such they are not a women issue.
If TRA's and the government want to pander to 'trans people' fine, but instead of forcing women and girls to sacrifice everything to accommodate deluded men, they must provide separate accommodations across the board themselves.
Last edited:
What a strange post.......I think everyone was friendly and accomodating to you, so why do you feel the need to leave? I think you have misinterpreted the responses!!!
I dont think anyone on here thought you were winding anyone up, and I havent seen any angry comments in response to your posts.
But each to their own!!
I can’t find the video in English but here is the woman in charge of equality in Spain who defends the access of transwomen to women spaces. She says that women are not jeopardize by transwomen in their spaces but by the fact they get paid less, machos and mental workload. Then she says that the first person saying that transwomen should not have access to our places is the one who jeopardizes women and that she legitimates men violence towards women and that she also legitimates the violence against homosexuals and that because of her and people like her people are afraid of coming out.
There is no logic at all in her arguments. To her, women wanting to feel safe in their dedicated spaces are the ones who are dangerous and she mixes transpeople and homosexual people.
There is no logic at all in her arguments. To her, women wanting to feel safe in their dedicated spaces are the ones who are dangerous and she mixes transpeople and homosexual people.
Last edited:
Detrans talks about his surgery in this video, and how the gender clinics were so insistent on getting him the SRS after he said No countless times.
He actually goes into deep detail about his surgery and I never knew they drill a hole into the mans pelvis in order to make a “neo-tina” sounds absolutely horrid. The fact TRA are pushing kids into getting this is beyond ducked.
How long until we get the next member of the 'be kind, it's so complicated, trans women are women' brigade. Bingo points for:
They have as child who is trans and they have known since they were 6 weeks old.
They work as a counsellor and in the past year have counselled 180,000 trans people, all of whom have been suicidal and all of whom are no threat to women at all.
Their best friend is trans and they are clinically depressed. This is the fault of women.
They think that cis women are very, very bigoted and that drag is wonderful, it's a celebration of womanhood.
They think pronouns are the difference between life and death.
When asked about the dehumanising of women and the very real threat of men in women's spaces, just keep repeating the same tired mantra 'NOT ALL TRANS PEOPLE ARE A THREAT.'
They flounce when they realise we're just a bunch of large, hairy terfs who can't see the beauty of Wayne in a dress becoming Wendy.
Ad bleeping nauseam.
They have as child who is trans and they have known since they were 6 weeks old.
They work as a counsellor and in the past year have counselled 180,000 trans people, all of whom have been suicidal and all of whom are no threat to women at all.
Their best friend is trans and they are clinically depressed. This is the fault of women.
They think that cis women are very, very bigoted and that drag is wonderful, it's a celebration of womanhood.
They think pronouns are the difference between life and death.
When asked about the dehumanising of women and the very real threat of men in women's spaces, just keep repeating the same tired mantra 'NOT ALL TRANS PEOPLE ARE A THREAT.'
They flounce when they realise we're just a bunch of large, hairy terfs who can't see the beauty of Wayne in a dress becoming Wendy.
Ad bleeping nauseam.
Spot on. They are thoroughly predictable, even down to the emotive language and the way they word things.
To be fair, the cognitive dissonance of wanting to be kind, then quickly being given many examples of how you're doing the opposite while not being able to produce a logical counter-argument beyond "not all men" and "but look how nice I'm being" must be pretty uncomfortable.
I think the user kept on offering to go as a way to actually avoid engaging with responses.
Yep, it really came across that way. It wasn’t going the way they wanted, so best to make out that they were being attacked and scurry away from the thread.
Manipulation from the off. "I'm so innocent, I'll go away if you want". Bore off.
It goes one of two ways:
1. The Flounce
OMG you’re all disgusting. I’m out of here, bleeping TERFs
2. The Victim
Oh wow I can see this thread isn’t for open minded people. Looks like alternative viewpoints aren’t welcome here. I’ll leave you to your echo chamber *shakes head sadly*
1. The Flounce
OMG you’re all disgusting. I’m out of here, bleeping TERFs
2. The Victim
Oh wow I can see this thread isn’t for open minded people. Looks like alternative viewpoints aren’t welcome here. I’ll leave you to your echo chamber *shakes head sadly*
I really think the whole argument that not all men are predatory or violent so we should not worry about giving them access to womens safe spaces is a red herring. So they are "nice" men? So what? It still doesn't mean I feel comfortable sharing single sex facilities with one.
It’s a way of directing attention to oneself, I think. Taking up space by bleating on about how you don’t want to take up space, etc.
Absolutely! I love men. I know many amazing men who are no threat to anyone. Without adding any details, I also regularly spend time in certain shared spaces, and it doesn't bother me at all.
Nevertheless, women need single sex spaces.
Also, I am a tall athletic woman. I am experienced in self-defence, and I consider myself pretty strong physically. My husband is thin, not very sporty or muscular, and rarely works out. We once decided to "fight" playfully. I went all in, trying to defeat him with all my strength. At first I was doing well. Then he decided to get serious. In a few seconds he had me in a position where I couldn't free myself. This is a kind, sweet man, and he immediately let me go when I asked him to stop. But these few seconds were terrifying. I suddenly realised that I am not as strong as I thought I was. I realised even the most untrained man is likely to be able to overpower me physically in a matter of seconds. It hit me like a ton of bricks. I felt incredibly vulnerable all of a sudden.
We don't like to think of this. And we're being told from every corner that women can do what men can do, that there's no difference, and that may well be in many instances, but when it comes to physical strength there is a huge difference. As biological women we are and remain at a huge physical disadvantage to biological men. And they remain a threat.
Agree completely. We all know nice men and often share our lives with them, but that does not mean other women or children will not find them intimidating or frightening so they should not be allowed in single sex spaces.
My husband goes out biking very early in the mornings with a mate - apparently they often see a woman running alone on the moors. My response was - I hope you stay as far away from her as possible, do not go anywhere near her even to reassure her that you are nice and not going to do anything. She will have clocked you and be calculating escape routes if you get too close, do not stress her out.
He then said he wouldn’t want me to run there that early, and I wouldn’t feel safe doing it, but she does, fair play to her, she has the right to do that and feel and be safe. Women shouldn’t have to change their behaviour because of dangerous men, but I do think men should change theirs. I don’t know if that is unfair.
I’m bleeping sick of other women pandering to these men over other women and girls’ rights. I don’t understand how they can go on about the vulnerability of trans identified men in male spaces (I disagree, but that’s not the point) but be so bloody wilfully obtuse and or ignorant to the worse outcomes for females.
Granted to a lot of women ending up in prison or a dv shelter might seem unlikely. But we all have older women relatives and will be old one day ourselves, do they want one of these perverts bathing their elderly mums, aunts, grandmothers. Do they want their young daughters sharing toilets with perverts when they start to go out in the world on their own. Like what the duck is wrong with them that they prioritise some mens feelings over our safety
I’ve bleeping had it. bleeping traitors.
Granted to a lot of women ending up in prison or a dv shelter might seem unlikely. But we all have older women relatives and will be old one day ourselves, do they want one of these perverts bathing their elderly mums, aunts, grandmothers. Do they want their young daughters sharing toilets with perverts when they start to go out in the world on their own. Like what the duck is wrong with them that they prioritise some mens feelings over our safety
I’ve bleeping had it. bleeping traitors.
I see Rebel Wilson has paid a surrogate to carry a baby for her.
Loved this tweet:
Loved this tweet:
This is the thing, most trans people (who have always existed) are not the ones drawing attention to themselves Shouting at women and calling us witches at protests, they are just trying to get on with their lives. This minority of aggressive trans women are giving a bad name to the whole movement and putting women (and the young people they seem to be infouencing) at huge risk.
- Status