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Maybe I’m being generous but they don’t strike me as male models, proportions are more female to me
Yep, and Marilyn regularly schools the lot of them (who he rightly says wouldn't exist without the likes of him and Boy George who were subverting gender stereotypes long before the average TRA was born) and says in no uncertain terms that dressing like a woman or "feeling" like a woman doesn't make you one.I thought being doxxed was releasing private information but all of it
FFS Boy George even stuck the Boy in there to make sure he wasn't 'misgendered' morons. None of them wore clownface either
Woop woop pen party!How daft. A gay man is someone born with a pen who's attracted to other men - ie those who were also born with penises.
Sorry to be so frank, but stuff like this winds me up.
Honestly, how much of this is straight people not feeling ‘special’ enough and wanting to take part oppression Olympics. Get a hobby ladies, it’s ok to not be part of the lgbtqia+ community.
It's the same way when a TiM commits one of those "it never happens" crimes against women and children - the TRAs say that he was never actually a trans woman at all, while still insisting that anyone - however they present, whatever their physical reality - is a woman just because he says he is.
And simultaneously saying that self-ID poses no threat to women and girls. A merry go round of contradictions.
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I read an article the other day about the ‘Hetrification’ of gay spaces, using the bachelorette party at a gay bar example. Some people said that this was a form of ‘colonisation’ and they no longer felt they had spaces that were theirs. I think that the blurring of lines between homosexuality and ‘gender non conforming’ has helped with this, and the LGBTQIA letters that include everyone now, as well as boundary pushing generally. I don’t really go out anymore, but I remember in the early 2000s door policies for gay clubs, because of discrimination and bigotry, were pretty strict to keep patrons safe from being harassed. Was wondering if anyone had more informed opinions?
I have a friend who is a “Bear” and he’s pretty pissed off about women going to the hairy men sex club but feels he can’t say anything so just avoids them.
This would have been unthinkable a few years ago. I socialised mainly in gay clubs but it wouldn't have crossed my mind to go in the few men-only bars or bars with dark rooms or whatever. It's real entitlement and quite homophobic, the assumption that spaces created for gay men's safety should be open to anyone.
Hopefully there'll be push back from gay men who do less of the "be kind" nonsense than women.
Well, absolutely - and what happens when the weird straight men who target TIFs tuen up at the clubs? Where do the actual homosexuals go? Why can’t they have a place to themselves?
Alexandria Adamson is Meatloaf.........the trans activist with the stroller that shouted like a lunatic outside the Scottish ParliamentThe mess we’re in
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Ah Meatloaf. I remember him well. I just looked at his twitter and his teeth are like brown tent pegs.
well it’s the same with all the equality stuff - when taken to extremes it basically means no exclusive places or groups for anyone. Women should be able to say ‘this is a space for women only’ the same as gay men or lesbians should be able to. These things are not costumes that people can just try on for fun
Absolutely, I wouldn’t go to a gay bar because I don’t belong there. I don’t want to change the dynamic by inserting myself into a place that I really don’t belong in. Gay people are entitled to their own spaces. Just as women are. Why is it that AGPs cannot respect other peoples’ boundaries and yet demand respect for their offensive, demeaning appearances and behaviour?! The mind boggles.
I've only been to gay bars/clubs a few times in my life and on all of those occasions went with a gay friend who wanted to go there. It wouldn't cross my mind to go without an invitation from a member of the community.
It's perfectly understandable that LGB people want their own safe spaces, just as women want to preserve their own safe spaces IMO.
Yeah I must admit I'm torn about the hen party thing. I never had a problem with it really, but a few years ago I was at a gay bar and when my boyfriend at the time showed up we had a kiss (not long or OTT or anything) and a hen party who were just next to us did the gawping and laughing thing.
I know they didn't mean it in a homophobic way, but it felt a bit like they were seeing gay men as a form of entertainment and it made me a bit uncomfortable, which was a shame as that's one of the few places I could feel comfortable with even very mild forms of public affection.
I feel that saying "no hen parties" would be a bit harsh, but if they're there, it does mean the space isn't then what it's intended to be. A few of my friends do think they should be banned, though.
I think you have every right to be offended by that and you should have your own space to meet your boyfriend in peace.
Those women are not being respectful they are just thinking of themselves, and that a gay club means that they might be free of attention from predatory men.
I have a three year old and she was sitting next to me as I was watching something on my phone. There was a trans male on there (long blonde hair, boob job, looked feminine and had obv been transitioning a while). As SOON as they started talking, she said, ‘I thought that was a girl??’ Even a three year old has the evolutionary knowledge of male and female voices yet we are being encouraged to ignore our own senses. I said, ‘No, that’s a boy but he’s dressed up as a girl’… hope that made it clear 🫠
I think hen parties are only acceptable at a gay bar if the hen is gay or has lots of gay friends 
Otherwise it feels a bit like they're treating it as entertainment or something to be gawped at etc. I don't buy that they are going because think it will be free of predatory men.
My sister is in a tight friendship group of 4, 2 straight women and 2 gay guys. Been friends since they were 11. For her overseas hen they have planned lots of drag bars, gay bars etc. But she has been going to them since she was 16 and is I suppose what years ago would have been called a fag hag. Its just the 4 of them going to that.
Her UK hen is a bit bigger and although the 4 of them will be there, there are no gay bars or drag activities on the menu. It's just cocktail bars and boozy bingo. I wouldn't dream of planning on taking 12 women (and 2 gay guys) to a gay bar, despite how comfortable 4 of the party would be, as it feels like an infringement of gay peoples rights.
Otherwise it feels a bit like they're treating it as entertainment or something to be gawped at etc. I don't buy that they are going because think it will be free of predatory men.
My sister is in a tight friendship group of 4, 2 straight women and 2 gay guys. Been friends since they were 11. For her overseas hen they have planned lots of drag bars, gay bars etc. But she has been going to them since she was 16 and is I suppose what years ago would have been called a fag hag. Its just the 4 of them going to that.
Her UK hen is a bit bigger and although the 4 of them will be there, there are no gay bars or drag activities on the menu. It's just cocktail bars and boozy bingo. I wouldn't dream of planning on taking 12 women (and 2 gay guys) to a gay bar, despite how comfortable 4 of the party would be, as it feels like an infringement of gay peoples rights.
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