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I can’t access the article but does she have unresolved birth trauma?
If she does it isn’t mentioned. The idea to transition seems inspired entirely by getting to know a transwoman and meeting a few other trans people. The fact that giving birth would be distressing to someone who saw themselves as a man isn’t mentioned at all.
 
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‘I am a gay man in a straight woman’s body. If I were to speak to my husband about this, it could end our marriage’


Have any of the Irish tattlers seen this? The Irish times agony aunts letters are often a bit out there but I don’t know what to make of this one. Seems strange that making new friends during maternity leave would make a woman want to be a man.
How daft. A gay man is someone born with a pen who's attracted to other men - ie those who were also born with penises.

Sorry to be so frank, but stuff like this winds me up. 😂
 
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‘I am a gay man in a straight woman’s body. If I were to speak to my husband about this, it could end our marriage’


Have any of the Irish tattlers seen this? The Irish times agony aunts letters are often a bit out there but I don’t know what to make of this one. Seems strange that making new friends during maternity leave would make a woman want to be a man.
This is appalling - the woman clearly has major issues, whether they are as a result of a troubled childhood, post-natal trauma, or dysphoria and now she has probably been outed in the IT.
As for the IT - this is hugely irresponsible of them - instead of advising her to talk to her GP and getting proper psychiatric care she has been advised to contact TENI. If she had said she had become friends with someone who was coercing her (and I believe that is what has happened) to become anorexic would she have been told to get advice from a pro-ana group?

ETA - or this is a set-up by TENI to test 'loyalty' at the IT?
 
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😕 at least it’s a barre studio so will be 99% gay men if any, but great opportunity for some horrid heterosexual man..
I used to be a regular at Barrecore (like at least 4-5 times a week), and never went back after the pandemic because of tit like this creeping into their social media. They even held an online charity class to raise funds for Mermaids, FFS.

As you’d expect of any barre class, the clientele was initially mostly affluent white women over 35, but over the last few years, the instructors have mostly become rainbow-haired children with pronouns in their bio. It’s such a shame because it used to be a great place to go.
 
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It really is that simple.

Oh yeah it's super challenging to explain that an adult man involving others (including children) in his fetish might be morally wrong 😂.

Let this lot and their allies engage in public thought experiments about the morals of sexualising kids though. As I keep saying, they're peaking more people than any TERF could 😂.
 
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I used to be a regular at Barrecore (like at least 4-5 times a week), and never went back after the pandemic because of tit like this creeping into their social media. They even held an online charity class to raise funds for Mermaids, FFS.

As you’d expect of any barre class, the clientele was initially mostly affluent white women over 35, but over the last few years, the instructors have mostly become rainbow-haired children with pronouns in their bio. It’s such a shame because it used to be a great place to go.
It’s so silly because when have boutique fitness classes ever NOT been inclusive? Women are a friendly bunch on the whole, they’re not going to laugh at a man coming along, especially a gay man ( not that there’s anything wrong with men attending them, but they do tend to be dominated by a certain type). It’s when it starts bleeding into our rights and enjoyment that we object

It’s actually men that have a huge issue with people who are different, not women
 
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There were always some issues with the occasional mean girl type, but most of the time it felt like a very welcoming environment to women and men of all body shapes. (To be clear, I did prefer classes that didn’t have any men in them because I think sometimes straight men signed up mostly to perve.)

The thing I forgot to say at the end of my previous post is that the recent gender-woo changes at Barrecore are deliberate and they’re being driven by somebody. The company changed ownership a while back. Does anybody know if Kobox or Boomcycle (now related brands) are similarly captured?
 
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‘I am a gay man in a straight woman’s body. If I were to speak to my husband about this, it could end our marriage’


Have any of the Irish tattlers seen this? The Irish times agony aunts letters are often a bit out there but I don’t know what to make of this one. Seems strange that making new friends during maternity leave would make a woman want to be a man.
Some of these stories remind me of those riddles you used to get "who am I" where you had to figure out what family member they where. I start reading them and halfway through I am often like so what is this person then again. Others make no sense like " gay non binary trans person" . It's almost like they are trying to outdo each other.
 
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I think it’s actually men that have a huge issue with gay men for example- women have never been bothered by or un-inclusive towards them, why would we be? But heterosexual men have this huge obsession with dismissing and diminishing them, so I guess a lot feel happier in a pink frilly rainbow womens’ world where they’re accepted and personality is valued- it’s only partly an illusion, mens’ worlds can be quite beige and straight-laced and masculine. So even heterosexual men get obsessed with the world of being a woman 👩🏻
 
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Oh yeah it's super challenging to explain that an adult man involving others (including children) in his fetish might be morally wrong 😂.

Let this lot and their allies engage in public thought experiments about the morals of sexualising kids though. As I keep saying, they're peaking more people than any TERF could 😂.
These TRAs don’t see the fetish. For them,AGPs are transwomen.

Some see the fetish and seem to make a difference between AGPs and « real » trans.
But where do we put the limit? Who should we consider as perverts and trans?
 
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My 9 year old has just come home to say they have a TIM as a supply teacher for a couple of weeks. I was getting ready to complain but I suppose I can't say anything as they use staff toilets don't they?
 
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These TRAs don’t see the fetish. For them,AGPs are transwomen.

Some see the fetish and seem to make a difference between AGPs and « real » trans.
But where do we put the limit? Who should we consider as perverts and trans?
I don't think we should consider them as perverts as its more complicated. You could have a female teacher that has a rubber or leather fetish but that would not be accepted in a school/college setting. However we have in your face cross dressing by a male teacher in Canada and its accepted. Now both of these fetish's are perfectly acceptable in the comfort of your own home - neither are my cup of tea and I would not term them perverted. However how have we got to the stage that its fine for a guy to wear grotesque fake bits and an exceptionally short skirt which is accepted as he is expressing his true self.

If that is the case why is adult babies not acceptable in a workplace? After all they are identifying as an infant instead of a woman. Why can't I wear my gif outfit or leather gear to work but I could dress up as a caricature of a woman and I would be applauded.
 
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It’s more a paraphilia than a fetish. Being seen and displaying the paraphilia in a public setting is very often an intrinsic part of it, so after the initial stages of the paraphilia develop doing it at home, in privacy, isn’t really an option. Many paraphilias include exhibiting it in front of ‘non consenting persons’ - in this case the non consenting persons are children, ffs.
 
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