There’s so much I could post on here, I just keep on finding outlandish tit these people are comfortable with posting. wtf is a phantom cervix? Do these males think we feel our cervix on a daily????
“These are not women’s clothes, these are my clothes.” I thought that was such a brave stance in tackling and dismantling gender stereotypes. I was the biggest Eddie fan for years.I do too. Didn’t used to. He literally stood on stage and said he was a bloke in a dress. Said that for years. I admired him for being honest and being able to wear make up etc but still be a man. Now with his I’m a girl rit I just can’t even look at him. He’s a 60 year old BLOKE ffs.
A genuine question here that I hope people won't mind giving their views on, but I was interested if anyone here thinks Kellie Jay Keen isn't the best person to have fronting those sorts of events. To me, a relative newcomer to it all, she comes across as harsh, divisive and smug. In short, I think she'd turn more people who are questioning this kind of thing away.I see the usual backlash has started around Kellie Jay Keen having another successful and well-attended event. Usual accusations of being right wing, racist etc. I don’t know who to believe any more
You’ve just reminded me that I need to listen to Helen Lewis’ series on wokeness being a new religion. It’s on BBC Sounds, for anyone else who might be interested. It came out about a month ago but I forgot about it!
I think it’s a bit like The Phantom Menace?wtf is a phantom cervix?
Well, The Phantom Menace was the worst Star Wars film...I think it’s a bit like The Phantom Menace?![]()
It takes a certain type of person to have the cojones to actually do what Kellie has been doing. Also at Brighton she was much more like the MC, allowing loads of other women their moment to talk.A genuine question here that I hope people won't mind giving their views on, but I was interested if anyone here thinks Kellie Jay Keen isn't the best person to have fronting those sorts of events. To me, a relative newcomer to it all, she comes across as harsh, divisive and smug. In short, I think she'd turn more people who are questioning this kind of thing away.
There are so many, better representatives. In fact, pretty much any GC woman who puts her neck on the line - Julie Bindel, JK Rowling, Helen Joyce, Kathleen Stock, etc. I could go on and on. They come across far calmer and - to be frank - seem more intelligent and hence put their point of view forward much better.
Is there a wrong type of feminist (or GC woman)? Are some more worthy than others? Helen Joyce has supported KJK and the event in Brighton. Really, we should be looking at what unites us, rather than what separates us - and some people need the wake-up call that is KJK.A genuine question here that I hope people won't mind giving their views on, but I was interested if anyone here thinks Kellie Jay Keen isn't the best person to have fronting those sorts of events. To me, a relative newcomer to it all, she comes across as harsh, divisive and smug. In short, I think she'd turn more people who are questioning this kind of thing away.
There are so many, better representatives. In fact, pretty much any GC woman who puts her neck on the line - Julie Bindel, JK Rowling, Helen Joyce, Kathleen Stock, etc. I could go on and on. They come across far calmer and - to be frank - seem more intelligent and hence put their point of view forward much better.
Sorry I didn't mean she was the "wrong type". I just found the women I listed (and others) won me over much more than KJK, so I just wondered if I was alone.Is there a wrong type of feminist (or GC woman)? Are some more worthy than others? Helen Joyce has supported KJK and the event in Brighton. Really, we should be looking at what unites us, rather than what separates us - and some people need the wake-up call that is KJK.
I am torn. KJK does what she does very well. But like all things, more suited to some than others. I am definitely of the 'will not use pronouns' side, although I used to. But as I am fond of saying, it starts with pronouns and ends with a woman being grape in a hospital bed and being further traumatised by the hospital refusing to admit there was a male bodied person on the ward. For a bleeping year! So no pronouns for me now. I am livid about the ruination of young lesbians and girls on the spectrum. The more I type the more KJK I soundA genuine question here that I hope people won't mind giving their views on, but I was interested if anyone here thinks Kellie Jay Keen isn't the best person to have fronting those sorts of events. To me, a relative newcomer to it all, she comes across as harsh, divisive and smug. In short, I think she'd turn more people who are questioning this kind of thing away.
There are so many, better representatives. In fact, pretty much any GC woman who puts her neck on the line - Julie Bindel, JK Rowling, Helen Joyce, Kathleen Stock, etc. I could go on and on. They come across far calmer and - to be frank - seem more intelligent and hence put their point of view forward much better.
There’s nothing like the confidence of a white man with an all-consuming paraphilia and the safety of transgender legislationI just don’t get the boob guy. I mean to be that confident that he could get away with it is breathtaking. They are ridiculous
I’ve always found her blunt and unapologetic talk quite refreshing tbh. One person’s harsh/smug/divisive will be mere plain speaking to others.A genuine question here that I hope people won't mind giving their views on, but I was interested if anyone here thinks Kellie Jay Keen isn't the best person to have fronting those sorts of events. To me, a relative newcomer to it all, she comes across as harsh, divisive and smug. In short, I think she'd turn more people who are questioning this kind of thing away.
An ex-friend of mine who came out as trans grew up in an abusive JW household. It did seem like they were a little lost in the real world and just wanted to feel part of something.A former friend of mine is the type who collects identities and is now trans and actually used to be in a cult. There’s definitely a sense of needing something to latch on to.
Most men hate women who are as ballsy and as unafraid as KJK, it’s plain and simple misogyny. She’s not ‘nice’ and men (and some women) don’t like that. It’s not behaving the way women are socialised to behave so it’s jarring for some people. Sorry Ensay I’m not accusing you of misogyny I’m just thinking this could be the way some people react to her. I love that she’s so unshakeable and fearless. I wish I was more like her.Sorry I didn't mean she was the "wrong type". I just found the women I listed (and others) won me over much more than KJK, so I just wondered if I was alone.
Seems like it, which is fine, to each their own!
The facial feminisation surgery….even that is pure sexist. I know plenty of women with a ‘strong jaw’, what, are they not feminine enough now? Why is the gold standard of being a woman a dainty wee face?An ex-friend of mine who came out as trans grew up in an abusive JW household. It did seem like they were a little lost in the real world and just wanted to feel part of something.
*Ex-friend because when I suggested they might want to get a few therapy sessions before spending their life savings (£20k or so) on facial feminisation surgery, I got swiftly defriended. Didn’t even advise against it. I just said that with their traumatic background, it would be good to talk things though first.
Oh it's OK, I didn't take it that way and I can see where you're coming from. I like hearing people's opinions regardless of which side of the fence they land.Most men hate women who are as ballsy and as unafraid as KJK, it’s plain and simple misogyny. She’s not ‘nice’ and men (and some women) don’t like that. It’s not behaving the way women are socialised to behave so it’s jarring for some people. Sorry Ensay I’m not accusing you of misogyny I’m just thinking this could be the way some people react to her. I love that she’s so unshakeable and fearless. I wish I was more like her.