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Will these idiots be renaming medical equipment too? For a start there are two types of urinary catheters- one uniquely designed for females and one uniquely designed for males.
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Will these idiots be renaming medical equipment too? For a start there are two types of urinary catheters- one uniquely designed for females and one uniquely designed for males.
true. so dramatic though, i think he's lost the plot again
I made some spelling mistakes as I'm a dyslexic. Nit even gonna get into thatHi KillarneyChick. I noticed your post about this thread on Roe v Wade thread;
"I came across the gender discussion thread on here tonight. Cant believe it's allowed on here, the transphobic comments are horrific and it's all very one sided ? But I suppose it's a forum"
Tattlers on the Gender thread are always keen to have an intelligent debate, and we enjoyed your posts earlier in the thread (starting on page 10)
You are welcome back here anytime
yes in a big family of doctors I'm the black sheep lol 
and can't believe someone thought I was lying about my trans cousin having an endocrinologist as a parent 
her dad's in ortho lol.Thanks for your nice comment ! Seems a bit one sided here though.
That's exactly what I was thinking.
He's had flak from the TRA's for using some language historically that they saw as being t-phobic (there used to be a section called 'you're got she-male'). He's capitulated and the show is now heavy of the T proselytizing but I'm pretty sure he believes exactly 0% of it.
I personally find it depressing watching gay men lose their pride and go into a closet made of gender.
For people I'd love to see go #TeamTerf, Emma Thompson would be good but she's been pro-TRA in the past.
Also please enjoy this burn:
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I've just come over to this thread and I'd just like to write the following...
I don't know anything regarding the statistics/numbers on the gender/trans population. I live in an area with an average sized high street, I have been served in two different shops by men dressed in women's clothing, and the Hermes courier who delivers to our area is a man dressed in women's clothing. No offense to anyone but I just wonder at times WTH is going on in the world?
I don't know anything regarding the statistics/numbers on the gender/trans population. I live in an area with an average sized high street, I have been served in two different shops by men dressed in women's clothing, and the Hermes courier who delivers to our area is a man dressed in women's clothing. No offense to anyone but I just wonder at times WTH is going on in the world?
Oh, that response by Sarah Philimore is utterly exquisite!
I was going to say Emma Thompson too. I’m sure she’s murmured some GC-esque things in the past, let me check on that.
If anyone wants to see how male to female bottom surgery is done click this link and scroll down. Warning: it’s bloody and shows genitals 
🩸 https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fsurg.2021.639430/full
🩸 https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fsurg.2021.639430/full
How one-sided would it be if, as you apparently wish given your comments elsewhere, we weren't "allowed" to voice gender critical views which are legally protected in the UK? Wouldn't that also be one-sided?I made some spelling mistakes as I'm a dyslexic. Nit even gonna get into that
Thanks for your nice comment ! Seems a bit one sided here though.
(Edit to correct spelling)
"Neoclitoris"If anyone wants to see how male to female bottom surgery is done click this link and scroll down. Warning: it’s bloody and shows genitals
I mean, I admire their commitment. If anyone goes through that they can call themselves a woman sorry"Neoclitoris"
they must reallyyy want itI can't find the link but I did read an article about a trans woman who was shocked at the way women are actually treated in society after they transitioned and appeared female presenting? They simply weren't used to for example being constantly interrupted and mansplained
The absolute worst of surgeries is 'genital nullification'. It leaves the area totally smooth apart from a tiny hole for urine. It is becoming offered by more and more doctors in the US
Warning - graphic pics in links
https://www.alignsurgical.com/non-binary/nullification/
cranects.com
www.mozaiccare.net
hannagendercenter.com
Warning - graphic pics in links
https://www.alignsurgical.com/non-binary/nullification/
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Nullification | mozaic
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Nullification Surgery | Non-Binary | Hanna Gender Center
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Yeah isn't that a designer vagina thing as well as being gender affirming? Like being totally smoothThe absolute worst of surgeries is 'genital nullification'. It leaves the area totally smooth apart from a tiny hole for urine. It is becoming offered by more and more doctors in the US
Warning - graphic pics in links
https://www.alignsurgical.com/non-binary/nullification/
Non-Binary Surgery - Crane Center for Transgender Surgery
At Crane Center, we offer several options for Non-Binary Surgery. Our surgeons will work with you to create a plan that is specific to you and your needs.
Nullification | mozaic
Nullification Surgery | Non-Binary | Hanna Gender Center
If you’re looking into your surgery options as a non-binary person, nullification surgery could be the right choice for you. Visit us for a consultation.
Nonbinary Gender Affirming Surgery | North Bay Hospital
Nonbinary Gender Affirming Surgery. Come to MarinHealth for trusted and reliable health services. We provide close-to-home care in Marin County.www.mymarinhealth.org
God these assholes are actual butchers.
I think the people who get it go through counselling etc so they're sure they really want it
Well, pretty much everywhere else online (looking at you, twitter) is an echo chamber of men (and bizarrely, some women) screaming women down and calling us terfs, threatening to rape us, get us fired from our jobs, get us cancelled, kill us, all because we have the temerity to call a man a man and a woman a woman and asserting that no amount of surgery or bullshit pronouns will change that.
It's in our interest to protect our spaces and protect our rights, surely that makes sense?
God forbid that you find it "one sided" in this forum, if that's the worst thing you can possibly say about the discourse here, compared to what women have to endure elsewhere for having a different opinion then that's a OK
I find it heartening that there's a community here of women (and men!) that can talk freely about the misogynistic trans agenda - for instance, I find it strange that so many "trans women" seem to have such a hatred of women, I wonder why that is?
TRAs display the same traits as any other men that are dangerous to women - verbal abuse and insults, threats of violence and intimidation tactics that women have always had to put up with to try to shut us up.
Women don't threaten to rape and kill people for not agreeing with them... is this the "other side" that you wish to see more of here?
Because "the other side" of the debate, to me, is we all have to blindly accept what we know simply isn't true and bullying people into complying with this utter nonsense. JMO
Nah, they still can’t call themselves a woman. No amount of mutilation will make you one. Women are not robots that can be manufactured on the surgeons table.I mean, I admire their commitment. If anyone goes through that they can call themselves a woman sorry
I can't find the link but I did read an article about a trans woman who was shocked at the way women are actually treated in society after they transitioned and appeared female presenting? They simply weren't used to for example being constantly interrupted and mansplained
I’m still going through painful and worrying gynae issues (don’t want to be specific) and a close friend is going through a horrendous pregnancy. An older close female relative who had come through breast cancer years ago is now going through menopause and is struggling massively. Women go through so much tit physically in our lifetime. A man voluntarily having bottom surgery to have a Frankenstein ‘neovagina’ made…I’m sorry no, he does not get to I call himself a woman because of this. Again, that’s a total insult to women. I wish they’d accept themselves for who they are. Men.
Also, that’s interesting about noticing the mansplaining. Interesting they didn’t notice it when they were men
hmm.I have heard trans men say they notice that presenting as a man means you are listened to more. That when you walk in a room you’ll be respected more than the women. And you are taken more seriously. This was the two trans men from the transparency podcast saying this. I’ve seen photos I’d say they both pass pretty well as male and pretty much live ‘stealth’ so I think most people would just assume they are male and treat them accordingly. I find it pretty depressing (although it’s not news to me), that women are not given as much respect. It’s no wonder the young generation of women want out
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I read about this from a trans economist I admire. She said (jokingly) that the first time her colleagues overlooked her opinion was the first time she felt accepted. She was very well regarded before transitioning.I have heard trans men say they notice that presenting as a man means you are listened to more. That when you walk in a room you’ll be respected more than the women. And you are taken more seriously. This was the two trans men from the transparency podcast saying this. I’ve seen photos I’d say they both pass pretty well as male and pretty much live ‘stealth’ so I think most people would just assume they are male and treat them accordingly. I find it pretty depressing (although it’s not news to me), that women are not given as much respect. It’s no wonder the young generation of women want out
I linked this a few page ago but a similar tone from Paris Lees re catcalling.
I Love Wolf-Whistles and Catcalls – Am I a Bad Feminist?
I get the stuff about "power imbalance" but it just makes me feel sexy.
www.vice.com
Grace Lavery and Andrea Long Chu have also spoken positively of similar things in their writing.
I find it so grim that they feel affirmed in their 'womanhood' when they experience the sexism all women experience their whole life. duck that.
I think, with all the politics that went on yesterday, this got a bit lost in the shuffle 
She is being raked over the coals, but now that Maya's won, hopefully more MPs from Labour/Lib Dems/Greens will feel safer coming out in support of women's rights.
She is being raked over the coals, but now that Maya's won, hopefully more MPs from Labour/Lib Dems/Greens will feel safer coming out in support of women's rights.
I feel like no one really understood this case tbh in my eyes it was very much clear cut discrimination and she was unfairly dismissed for expressing some views. The transgender stuff is neither here nor there for me, whether you agree with what she said or not, you should be absolutely bleeping appalled that she lost her job for it! All Labour MPs should have workers rights at the front of their mind, it’s only right that Marsha is showing support for the outcome of this case?I think, with all the politics that went on yesterday, this got a bit lost in the shuffle
She is being raked over the coals, but now that Maya's won, hopefully more MPs from Labour/Lib Dems/Greens will feel safer coming out in support of women's rights.
Anyway, I’m loving all of the white people in the comments flaming Marsha for this as well, they’re all ‘LISTEN TO POC WOMEN’, until one of them says something that they disagree with…
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