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Time Kid of the Year Finalist: Trans Activist Kai Shappley
11-year-old Kai Shappley has been fighting for trans rights her entire life—and has no plans of stopping
time.com
What is missing from this article is that Kai's mother used to try and beat the gay out of him. That is child abuse.
I think you're looking at it the wrong way round. Over the last decade, think how much has changed in terms of awareness and knowledge of gender identity, LGBTQIA+ etc issues which ten years ago, kids would have had no idea about. They would have gone on to become very unhappy adults who would / may look to transition later in life, some of which may go on to suicide. Now however, there's a lot more awareness and understanding amongst the general public, so young people are presenting much earlier in life. Secondly, health professionals have more awareness. A decade ago, a GP's response would be quite different. The fact that referrals have increased can only be a good thing.But are they receiving the help they need? The Tavistock has had some pretty damning whistleblower stories. I'm not sure they are in their current form helping any child.
The crisis at the Tavistock's child gender clinic
A number of reports have raised concerns about the country's only NHS gender clinic for young people.www.bbc.com
Those numbers to me reflect the poor provision for child and adolescent mental health care across the UK.
Not to mention that there has been such a jump in cases in a decade just makes me think that research into Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria among children, especially girls, is urgently necessary.
Finally, a referral to Tavistock does not automatically negate a referral to CAMHS. The waiting list for Tavistock is huge, and therefore young people may be simultaneously referred to CAMHS and Tavistock; CAMHS to provide support in the interim. The figures quoted do not assume that CAMHS is out of the picture.
the help that a good % of that 5500 need is a unbiased mental health professional talking to them to see what issues they have. What they don’t need is referred to a long waiting list to a service which has been shown simply reinforces the child’s view rather than questioning it. If we had an underweight teenage girl who said she was too large we would not validate that view? Why then do we validate every teenage girl who says they are a boy especially if a large % are also autistic. That’s the current problem with Tavistock…..don’t take my word it’s in reports and in testimony from doctors that have resigned.
I mean this is concerning that you would not take a child's view point into consideration. Gender and identity and weight are two different things entirely. Children that are not taken seriously go on to be deeply unhappy, some go on to suicide as have been many reports. Just because someone has a referral to Tavistock does not mean that they get referred and automatically supported to transition or 'validated'. It is a long process of assessment.
Some young people within the waiting time frame, may actually change their mind and no longer need the referral. But young people need to be taken seriously - the risk is too great if they are not listened to.
Also, autism does not mean a young person cannot be gender questioning.
The long process of assessment is 2 sessions in which the child's assertions are unquestionably affirmed.
Trans is not gay. There is no medical treatment for being gay. There is no medical treatment for being asexual or bi or pan. When there's permanent medical procedures that go along with a trans announcement then we ought to be checking that the right decision is being made.
I assume the suicide statistics you refer to is the ones pushed by mermaids/stonewall which where debunked as they where based upon the testimony of 7 trans people. Sadly there are some children that commit suicide whoever it is never for gender reasons. The CASS report along with testimony from doctors that have left as well as de transitions show that the only thing Tavistock do is validation. What our politicians should be doing is holding an inquiry/commission into why referrals have went from 50 per year to over 5000. Instead they struggle to say what a woman is when asked.
As an adult and also a parent it is our moral responsibility to look out for children. Instead too many celebrate another going on puberty blockers or worse having top surgery as a minor. We don’t question why 1 in 20 children in one Brighton school identity as trans/non binary. Instead funding is given to charities for trans children whose average age is 9.
So in summary we need much better mental health support for our children from unbiased professionals. The current set up is not working
It's sad because 2010 wasn't the dark ages. There hasn't been some great awakening. Instead kids are told to "be kind" aka shut up and everyone wants to be different or have a label. Because being white, straight and no neurodivergence is not cool.
Girls are being convinced by tiktok that they are trans when actually they are autistic lesbians who have been bullied and need some mental health support.
You also say it means they are getting the help they need. No they aren't. Again they need mental health support, that has a far shorter waiting lost then a gender clinic that will just reinforce their ideas.
‘Trans kids’ are overwhelmingly a group that have suffered abuse before identifying as trans. Girls who want to be boys to escape sexual advances and boys who want to be girls to escape homophobia. If anything is likely to cause a high suicide risk in children it’s unnecessary surgery and untested drugs in a young person with untreated underlying trauma.
I don't think I am. Most frightening for me is the huge increase in young girls being referred.
Putting a gender non-conforming child on puberty blockers is an irreversible medical intervention and the current UK processes before a child is given those blockers are insufficient to prevent harm imo.
Puberty blockers
Research and history of the use of puberty blockers in the UK, Keira Bell's case at the High Court and the Cass Review.
www.transgendertrend.com
Honestly I don't believe any NHS Child and Adolescent mental health services are sufficient at the moment. For any child (let alone those experiencing gender dysphoria). This is a Lancet article from pre Covid, and I shudder to think how much worse it has become in the interim period.
Redirecting
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If grown adults want to transition, the provision is there for them. There is no need to want to fast track a child to make such serious decisions and as adults we should be protecting them, not immediately affirming and changing names and pronouns and getting them referred. There is a reason children are not allowed to get married, drink alcohol, get tattoos, make financial decisions. If drinking alcohol is not safe or healthy for a child under 18, why is giving them puberty blockers ok? If we don’t trust kids with deciding to get a tattoo, why would we think a 16 year old should be able to make the decision to get their breasts or pen removed? The human brain doesn’t fully develop until we are 25. There are lots of mistakes I’m sure we all made as kids, but as adults I’m sure we all still have our body parts intact??
Yes- agreed.
I am increasingly of the opinion that no one is trans. It just doesn't exist. No one is born in the wrong body. How can someone feel like a different sex when they have no idea how it feels to be that sex? Instead, they are either:
A confused teenager
Gay or les
on the ASD spectrum
Gender non conforming
or have nefarious reasons, such as:
AGP
Lying to get access to vulnerable women
Lying to gain access to women's sports/prisons
I amazed how quickly we have gone from seeing the idea of someone being trans as really marginal in society to it being celebrated.
A confused teenager
Gay or les
on the ASD spectrum
Gender non conforming
or have nefarious reasons, such as:
AGP
Lying to get access to vulnerable women
Lying to gain access to women's sports/prisons
I amazed how quickly we have gone from seeing the idea of someone being trans as really marginal in society to it being celebrated.
I think, like everything nowadays, it's all gone overboard......
Let people grow up & decide for themselves as an adult once they've attained the age of responsibility. Until then , they are children/teens & under the responsibility of parents & guardians . A " life saving " operation is decided upon as parents/guardians- I think it wrong to give permission for a "life changing " operation ( completely different kettle of fish) whilst under-age.
Let people grow up & decide for themselves as an adult once they've attained the age of responsibility. Until then , they are children/teens & under the responsibility of parents & guardians . A " life saving " operation is decided upon as parents/guardians- I think it wrong to give permission for a "life changing " operation ( completely different kettle of fish) whilst under-age.
Who’s interests would it be in to permanently sterilise a cohort of autistic teenagers who most probably would grow up to be gay?
(Spoiler alert: Right-wing eugenicists, that’s who.)
This is not a civil rights movement. For one thing, at no point in history have the police and establishment been on the side of any left-wing grassroots protest movement. That’s how I know the trans rights lobby is a right-wing shill. It amazes me that more people don’t see this, especially the Left.
(Spoiler alert: Right-wing eugenicists, that’s who.)
This is not a civil rights movement. For one thing, at no point in history have the police and establishment been on the side of any left-wing grassroots protest movement. That’s how I know the trans rights lobby is a right-wing shill. It amazes me that more people don’t see this, especially the Left.
There’s a reason why trans adults campaign so hard about giving kids puberty blockers and hormones: it validates them. If trans kids exist, then they are true and honest valid trans people also.
All because some white male AGPs campaigned hard for it. Who else would be taken so seriously, other than white males?
Exactly. It’s so frustrating that so few people want to accept this, because it’s so OBVIOUS. Declassifying gender dysphoria as a mental illness was a scandalous thing to do. Of course it’s a mental illness.
All because some white male AGPs campaigned hard for it. Who else would be taken so seriously, other than white males?
You are right that a large and largely vocal percentage of the current "trans" movement falls into what you state. However there are people who fall into the transexual field and despite following numerous therapy are in the wrong body. The problem we have is that we now have something like 500k trans people in the UK according to Stonewall. So the overall message we are getting from this field is negative.
How can it NOT be a mental illness? Believing yourself to be something you’re not is clearly a deep psychological issue.
Edit: or a fetish.
Edit: or a fetish.
The current trans movement is a bit like BIID in that some members believe it will be better after, some see it as a sexual fetish and some are willing to go to extremes to make it happen.
The left/liberals are just as bad. In Sweden trans were forcibly sterilised until 2013.
wedish Parliament to pay compensation for forced sterilisation of trans people | ILGA-Europe
Yesterday, the Swedish Parliament took the historic decision that trans people who were forcibly sterilised (between 1972 and 2013) should be paid compensation. This is a worldwide first, and it is the result of a long fight from trans activists. Their initial fight was against the requirement...
www.ilga-europe.org
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