Gender Discussion #22

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Do these idiots think that gay, trans and non-white people have just been sat at home indoors? Why would we need telling that we can go hiking? Oddly regressive and actually quite homophobic, transphobic and racist if you think about it.
Best tweet I’ve seen today on that very subject.

 
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I just noticed that it doesn't actually mention race, but like you my mind had just automatically assumed it did because it nearly always does. After all there are few groups more disgusting than white cishets!
I just automatically read it as “white cis-het” 🤣
 
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I can’t bring myself to listen to Maya Forstater being interviewed on woman’s hour. I normally like Emma Barnett but the comments on Twitter about the way she spoke to Maya are terrible. I thought Emma was no nonsense and more on the GC side (esp after her interview with Nancy Kelley, head of Stonewall). But I sounds like she’s been told to be aggressive and rude. Disappointed in her. Apparently Maya held her own though.
It's really disappointing. She's trying to catch her out and missing the point completely.
 
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“We may well have friends and family walks in the future, or walks with allies, but for now, we really want people to feel absolutely safe, like they don’t have to feel any fear about coming along,” Ailish says.

How does one become an approved ally? Is there a strict vetting procedure?
 
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Isn’t it nuts that one of the biggest reasons given up to discredit JKR is that she’s rich and white? I really think it comes from modern culture which, weirdly, seems to put being disadvantaged on a pedestal. You opinions carry weight if you’re marginalised. It’s so bizarre.
Bingo! In the game of oppression spirals, anything wins over being white and straight and middle class. So they invented classifications and stuck themselves in them and put them at the bottom of the spiral. Bingo! Most oppressed people ever you bigots!
 
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Bingo! In the game of oppression spirals, anything wins over being white and straight and middle class. So they invented classifications and stuck themselves in them and put them at the bottom of the spiral. Bingo! Most oppressed people ever you bigots!
It’s genius really. Feeling your privilege? Just say you’re non binary! It’s made up anyway. It’ll make you feel special and everyone will pander to you! You’ll get to shout at people that get your pronouns wrong. You’ll feel drunk with power. Go on, boring privileged white cis het people - do it!!

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It’s genius really. Feeling your privilege? Just say you’re non binary! It’s made up anyway. It’ll make you feel special and everyone will pander to you! You’ll get to shout at people that get your pronouns wrong. You’ll feel drunk with power. Go on, boring privileged white cis het people - do it!!

😂😂
And then they posit working class left wing feminists like me as right wing bigots. Men are women, women are nowt and apparently my alcoholic mother, council estate, state school, deprived childhood makes me privileged because I believe in biological reality. It's like satire
 
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What the hell has going for a walk outside got to do with being cishet anyway?


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I am straight and middle class but you would never catch me in the great outdoors!!

Simple fact is everyone there is privileged compared people from deprived areas as they have disposable income to afford the gear to do this type of activity.
 
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It’s genius really. Feeling your privilege? Just say you’re non binary! It’s made up anyway. It’ll make you feel special and everyone will pander to you! You’ll get to shout at people that get your pronouns wrong. You’ll feel drunk with power. Go on, boring privileged white cis het people - do it!!

😂😂
Someone I'm working with at the moment recently 'came out' as non binary. He is a white male, has a male name, wears male clothes, has normal male hair and a beard. The only thing different since he's become 'non binary' is to constantly witter on about using they/them pronouns and to put them in his display name on vidoeconferencing platforms. Please, I'm begging you, get a real hobby :rolleyes:
 
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On "queer hiking" - my white, cishet, middle-aged mother got into hiking about ten years ago and it gave her so much confidence. She met a group of like-minded women that she never had throughout her adult life and finally found a hobby she truly enjoyed. duck off with this crap about it not being ~welcoming~ and how macho it is, because it isn't. It's what you make of it.

That woman is amazing, her poems are incredible, her Twitter is a joy.
Yeah she is brilliant.
 
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Someone I'm working with at the moment recently 'came out' as non binary. He is a white male, has a male name, wears male clothes, has normal male hair and a beard. The only thing different since he's become 'non binary' is to constantly witter on about using they/them pronouns and to put them in his display name on vidoeconferencing platforms. Please, I'm begging you, get a real hobby :rolleyes:
In language only. Non binary is just embarrassing for anyone over 20
 
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How does one become an approved ally? Is there a strict vetting procedure?
Just identify as one I guess.

It’s genius really. Feeling your privilege? Just say you’re non binary! It’s made up anyway. It’ll make you feel special and everyone will pander to you! You’ll get to shout at people that get your pronouns wrong. You’ll feel drunk with power. Go on, boring privileged white cis het people - do it!!
Tbh it might be an interesting experiment. 😂
 
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Julie Burchill has laid into Laurie Penny here 😃
She then goes on to say
' I’ve been suspended from Twitter after saying that unarmed Ukrainians facing down Russian tanks are braver than men who dress up as women'
 
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My husband read this headline to me five minutes ago and I said I BET they're all middle class they/thems.
Haha if you click on the thread, someone's posted a picture of the group (apparently) and it's just all white people lol.
 
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