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Jessica Alves look reminds me so much of Lolo Ferrari 🙁. Shame on the surgeons who keep operating, Jessica needs a psychiatrist.

I'm watching a documentary on the castrati singers (around 100,000 children were castrated in the 1800s according to estimates) - it's a BBC4 doc, available via YouTube. They're talking about how their voices differed from male and female singers, as well as the ethical ramifications of removing healthy body parts on children, leaving them with lifelong problems with bone development, sexuality and fertility. I'm wondering whether this would even be commissioned today.
I do wonder if we're going to see some of the problems the castrati had in boys who are currently being given puberty blockers and eventually go onto cross sex hormones. Their arms and legs often grew unusually long, as well as their ribs, and the increased space for their lungs is what gave them the ability to develop those incredible voices.
 
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I do wonder if we're going to see some of the problems the castrati had in boys who are currently being given puberty blockers and eventually go onto cross sex hormones.
The Swedish documentary into transitioning children now has English subtitles. One of the children (doesn't appear on camera for privacy) now has osteopenia after experiencing back and shoulder pain. They never had bone density checks despite four years of GnRH analogues. As predicted, the endocrinologists blame the psychiatrists, the psychiatrists blame the endocrinologists, neither claim to have knowledge of the adverse effects reported among various children (including worsening mental health, significant weight gain, possible liver damage, bone thinning after two years and stunted height.)

 
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I’m much more wary about where I shop now. I body swerved Lush the other day while out Christmas shopping. Never again will I shop in there. Good idea to check the website of a company you’re buying from, it will quite often give you clues if they are pro trans. Like that deodorant company I was going to buy from, until I read on their website they ask all their employees to put their pronouns on their email. Great, I now know not to buy from you, byeee!

* I think they’re called Wild and it’s one of those organic, eco friendly products. Saving the planet but betraying womankind 👎😑
Wild was just discussed in the Niomi Smart thread because they’re sending her a new can every few months…obviously in the name of sustainability which they care about greatly 😒
 
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My best mate had to tell her sister that whatever deoderant she was using she needed to stop because it wasn't working - it was that Wild stuff. Apparently rit aside from anything else.
 
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Glad I didn’t make a purchase with them! I was just looking for something to cut down on plastic. But I also want not to stink and also, the pro pronouns stance. Guess I’ll stick with dove then.
 
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Ahhh why why why haven’t I found this thread sooner?!

my best friend throughout school. Her husband of 6 years, father of their two little girls was apparently born into the wrong body. Obviously always knew this but didn’t realise until he messed up my friend’s life got married and brought two innocent children into the world.

my friend is an absolute darling and has stuck by him throughout his transition. Funnily enough despite this yearning to be a woman, does he/she/it do anything regarded as ‘woman’ jobs around the home?! Feck if it does. My lovely friend is still the one juggling the mental load of the family doing the vast majority of housework and raising the children as well as being supportive to the wanker she married who decides to spend his free time brushing his wig and putting on perfume while prancing around in dresses organising lunch with the ladies, which ironically his wife is never invited to. Do I believe men like this really want to be a woman? No friggin way! They take the aspects of female they like and leave the real ‘womanly’ tit to the actual women because of their bleeping male privilege lets them believe they can pick and choose which part of being a woman applies to them.
do they hate women that much that they want to eradicate us?!
no safe spaces exist for a woman anymore. They’re at breastfeeding (sorry chest feeding) support classes getting more one on one time with their dollys than a brand new struggling mother whose newborn baby is struggling to latch. But to hell if that innocent baby’s nutrition and life is more important than some grown man playing with his doll playing dress up.
grape crisis centres. They have full access as long as they identify as being a woman. They don’t even need to look the part. How bleeping intimidating that must be to a grape victim? But of course her feelings are irrelevant as long as David in his floral dungarees doesn’t feel excluded. Like hello, this is a way for attackers to further intimidate their victims if all they have to say is they feel more Christina than Chris this afternoon while following their victim into a centre. What about women escaping domestic violence seeking refuge and then their abusers being let in. Prisons… I’m sure I read an incident where a trans woman was in a female prison somewhere in the world and then went on to grape several inmates but nothing was done. Little girls going into toilets alone? Just doesn’t bare thinking about. A pen never belongs in a grape crisis centre or female toilet. Anyone who disagrees is not right in the head. Trans men and women can have their own spaces, but instead they want the female spaces.

of course a few people are genuinely born into the wrong bodies and quietly transition and just go about their business causing no harm. But the ones shouting from the rooftops are the ones who is making a mockery of the genuine trans community.
 
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I first saw videos of Nikkitutorials and didn’t realise to be honest - but when she was presenting Eurovision, she was two foot taller and a foot wider than the women presenters. Just a different scale. It was so obvious.
I think because Dutch people are tall that is why no one really questioned their height - but on the topic of Nikkie - this is completely off topic. I hate their makeup tutorials. Beautiful at eyeshadow but their skin work is terrible, it is them just layering on foundation, concealer and powder too thickly and apply layers after layers. Very few beauty YouTuber who are “experts” know how to work with makeup, they only know what works on them. Several filters, lighting, filler, hundreds of euro of skincare, a perfectly symmetrical face thanks to their surgeon is why their makeup looks good.

Also, most youtuber makeup artists that I know of have makeup like a drag queen.
 
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Glad I didn’t make a purchase with them! I was just looking for something to cut down on plastic. But I also want not to stink and also, the pro pronouns stance. Guess I’ll stick with dove then.
Dove came out with a refillable packaging so probably other deodorants will too!
 
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I’m much more wary about where I shop now. I body swerved Lush the other day while out Christmas shopping. Never again will I shop in there. Good idea to check the website of a company you’re buying from, it will quite often give you clues if they are pro trans. Like that deodorant company I was going to buy from, until I read on their website they ask all their employees to put their pronouns on their email. Great, I now know not to buy from you, byeee!

* I think they’re called Wild and it’s one of those organic, eco friendly products. Saving the planet but betraying womankind 👎😑
I really like Lush products! I can’t find something similar that is also cute. Just plain round bath bombs etc.
 
No one is born in the wrong body. Gender dysphoria does exist but it affects far far fewer people than claimed. It's also one of the only mental illnesses I think of where there seems to be no attempt to treat it (i.e attempt to make it go away via therapy etc.) but to offer surgery to affirm.
 
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I'm watching a documentary on the castrati singers (around 100,000 children were castrated in the 1800s according to estimates)
I’ve never heard of this before! How horrendous. I had a read on Google and listened to recordings of Alessandro Moreschi, I double checked his age at the time of recordings and he was around 58 (I think). Very creepy.
 
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Glad I didn’t make a purchase with them! I was just looking for something to cut down on plastic. But I also want not to stink and also, the pro pronouns stance. Guess I’ll stick with dove then.
Off topic, but when I'm not working I use gycolic acid toner under my arms. The low ph kills the bacteria that cause the BO. Have also stopped using Lush which has cost me my favourite cruelty free perfume
 
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I've just starting watching the documentary about grape on C4 that was on a few weeks ago. 71% of ALL crimes investigated by Avon and Somerset police are sex crimes. That, to me, is even more shocking that the dismal grape conviction rate.
Avon and Somerset police are horrendous, especially with women. They cover such a wide area and don’t really understand policing rural communities. They have already had to refer themselves twice to the IOPC in the matter of weeks because 3 people were murdered (a woman and her husband and another woman a few weeks prior).

Off topic, but when I'm not working I use gycolic acid toner under my arms. The low ph kills the bacteria that cause the BO. Have also stopped using Lush which has cost me my favourite cruelty free perfume
Without sounding like a kill joy glycolic acid will lighten the skin and it doesn’t remove the sweat. I’ve seen it all over social media and I do worry about those with darker skin tones because the lightening effect may become quite noticeable.
 
Yes, Caroline Hirons has pushed glycolic acid for years without ever thinking to mention that it breaks down melanin.
 
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Ahhh why why why haven’t I found this thread sooner?!

my best friend throughout school. Her husband of 6 years, father of their two little girls was apparently born into the wrong body. Obviously always knew this but didn’t realise until he messed up my friend’s life got married and brought two innocent children into the world.

my friend is an absolute darling and has stuck by him throughout his transition. Funnily enough despite this yearning to be a woman, does he/she/it do anything regarded as ‘woman’ jobs around the home?! Feck if it does. My lovely friend is still the one juggling the mental load of the family doing the vast majority of housework and raising the children as well as being supportive to the wanker she married who decides to spend his free time brushing his wig and putting on perfume while prancing around in dresses organising lunch with the ladies, which ironically his wife is never invited to. Do I believe men like this really want to be a woman? No friggin way! They take the aspects of female they like and leave the real ‘womanly’ tit to the actual women because of their bleeping male privilege lets them believe they can pick and choose which part of being a woman applies to them.
do they hate women that much that they want to eradicate us?!
no safe spaces exist for a woman anymore. They’re at breastfeeding (sorry chest feeding) support classes getting more one on one time with their dollys than a brand new struggling mother whose newborn baby is struggling to latch. But to hell if that innocent baby’s nutrition and life is more important than some grown man playing with his doll playing dress up.
grape crisis centres. They have full access as long as they identify as being a woman. They don’t even need to look the part. How bleeping intimidating that must be to a grape victim? But of course her feelings are irrelevant as long as David in his floral dungarees doesn’t feel excluded. Like hello, this is a way for attackers to further intimidate their victims if all they have to say is they feel more Christina than Chris this afternoon while following their victim into a centre. What about women escaping domestic violence seeking refuge and then their abusers being let in. Prisons… I’m sure I read an incident where a trans woman was in a female prison somewhere in the world and then went on to grape several inmates but nothing was done. Little girls going into toilets alone? Just doesn’t bare thinking about. A pen never belongs in a grape crisis centre or female toilet. Anyone who disagrees is not right in the head. Trans men and women can have their own spaces, but instead they want the female spaces.

of course a few people are genuinely born into the wrong bodies and quietly transition and just go about their business causing no harm. But the ones shouting from the rooftops are the ones who is making a mockery of the genuine trans community.
It's funny how they manage to impregnate women in the usual manly way with "the wrong body" isn't it? Your poor friend.
 
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Avon and Somerset police are horrendous, especially with women. They cover such a wide area and don’t really understand policing rural communities. They have already had to refer themselves twice to the IOPC in the matter of weeks because 3 people were murdered (a woman and her husband and another woman a few weeks prior).


Without sounding like a kill joy glycolic acid will lighten the skin and it doesn’t remove the sweat. I’ve seen it all over social media and I do worry about those with darker skin tones because the lightening effect may become quite noticeable.
I'm Celtic blue/white, so couldn't get any paler personally and use it after a shower, however I have wondered about all the active skin care products that affect pigmentation as skin care "experts" never seen to mention how they affect darker skins. Glad you mentioned it
 
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Men who trans when they have a wife and or kids are the ultimate narcissistic guys. They don't care about the impact on their wife or children just their own right to be who they want.
 
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Those men have put their AGP fetishes over their wife and children. Imagine how mortifying it would be as a kid to have your Dad go around thinking he's a woman and demanding everyone partake in his fantasy.
 
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Men who trans when they have a wife and or kids are the ultimate narcissistic guys. They don't care about the impact on their wife or children just their own right to be who they want.
Exactly. Women sacrifice their entire lives for their families but middle aged men can't e en sacrifice their desire to cosplay women for the sake of their kids.
 
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