Gender Discussion #19

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So nice to see a couple of articles quite front and centre in the Mail Online. I really think they are going to be very useful in this debate. They seem to be one of the only news outlets not scared of them.
 
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So nice to see a couple of articles quite front and centre in the Mail Online. I really think they are going to be very useful in this debate. They seem to be one of the only news outlets not scared of them.
Problem is everyone sees the DM as the lowest of the low and not accurate or trustworthy
 
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Problem is everyone sees the DM as the lowest of the low and not accurate or trustworthy
I don't know - it's got a high readership and I think a lot of the country are completely unaware any of this is happening. It might get to that portion of society who would be justly outraged. Yes, they might also love Farage and hate immigration but I'll take that - the more people we can get to push back against this the better.
 
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I really have to question these men who supposedly didn’t know that their partners were trans. Either they have very little experience with natal women, or they secretly knew that their girlfriends were trans and chose not to say anything about it.

We all know that trans women are almost always clockable straight away, and yet so many trans women peddle this myth that they’re unclockable. Height… build… voice… surgically constructed neo tina… all big clues.
To be fair to Nikke’s fiancé, Nikkie does look like a woman even though her face is so full of plastic surgery it makes sense now. She’s really tall but some people put that down to her being Scandinavian. Some guys maybe don’t have that much experience with women and their anatomy or maybe they feel unable to ask questions for fear of offending.
 
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I don't know - it's got a high readership and I think a lot of the country are completely unaware any of this is happening. It might get to that portion of society who would be justly outraged. Yes, they might also love Farage and hate immigration but I'll take that - the more people we can get to push back against this the better.
but i think, generally speaking, a lot of the readership are the kind of people who think life was better in the 1950s before feminism etc the kind of people who would be outraged about what is happening if they knew are not the mails audience
 
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I clicked on that thread about the dolls. I had to 🤢

I’ve never been convinced by the argument that dolls are the solution and protect children from abuse. They are the gateway. There’s no way these sick men don’t end up wanting to take it a step further.

I had to stop reading the screenshots of men discussing baby dolls and their “requirements” (I won’t go into detail). The Internet is a failure, basically, because it allows these perps to find each other.
 
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Has anyone else come across this?

Really bleeping disturbing that i'm using someone else quote tweet as not to show the other tweets in the thread, one is a trans woman pushing a rubber baby from the a and there's worst, all p@edo tit - just how deprived some men are!

I would encourage to forward on to TRAs and see if they still side with self ID - letting these sort of men near young girls in confined spaces like toilets. Self-ID supporting MPs should be made to watch as well!

so if you can stomach - NSFW!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’ve noticed that a lot of these dolls are produced in China - what on earth is going on over there for them to think this is ok?
 
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Capitalism. If there’s a market for it, they’ll manufacture it.
But we are a capitalist country and we don’t have these weird obsession with sexualising dolls like this. I mean I hope we don’t have a factory that produces these.
 
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But we are a capitalist country and we don’t have these weird obsession with sexualising dolls like this. I mean I hope we don’t have a factory that produces these.
I think there is a lot less regulation there, it’s the same with their production of fake designer goods etc that would be much more difficult here even if there is a market for it
 
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But we are a capitalist country and we don’t have these weird obsession with sexualising dolls like this. I mean I hope we don’t have a factory that produces these.
There's also a lot of hungover religiously-inspired Puritanism here. The Chinese were left godless for a long time by Communism.
 
But we are a capitalist country and we don’t have these weird obsession with sexualising dolls like this. I mean I hope we don’t have a factory that produces these.
A capitalist country which 'outsources' its dirty work to slave labour in places like China - no market, no production
 
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There's also a lot of hungover religiously-inspired Puritanism here. The Chinese were left godless for a long time by Communism.
Also (and this is pure conjecture on my part) perhaps it’s somehow justified by the Chinese as making a product for consumption in the degenerate Western world - although I’m sure that demand is very much global and for anyone who can afford it.
 
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But we are a capitalist country and we don’t have these weird obsession with sexualising dolls like this. I mean I hope we don’t have a factory that produces these.
Our men buy them. Our men go over to South East Asia to grape women and girls. We don't produce this stuff here because there'd be an outcry, but we create the demand. No different from outsourcing all the other tit we outsource (our mountains of rubbish, our desire for cheap clothes and toys, etc).

China isn't blameless but neither is the West.
 
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I really can’t abide drag. I’m of an age when Danny la Rue was about the only drag performer who was regularly on tv. He was fairly innocuous but I always felt slightly uncomfortable with it. As time has gone on it has become vile and just seems totally misogynistic, openly taking the piss out of women. I can’t stand it and don’t think it is suitable for kids at all.
Late to the party but the normalisation of drag culture in the last few years is truly frightening.

So many women watch these drag races too. Why? I just don't get it. Not to mention the makeup looks they push on us are drag-lite. Womanhood is under attack.
 
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I don’t get it either. The inherent misogyny aside, I just don’t see the attraction in watching a load of blokes dressed as women arguing and being witchy to one another. It’s a weird thing to be entertained by.
 
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Late to the party but the normalisation of drag culture in the last few years is truly frightening.

So many women watch these drag races too. Why? I just don't get it. Not to mention the makeup looks they push on us are drag-lite. Womanhood is under attack.
I agree. The way we are all supposed to whoop with delight the second we see a man dressed in drag. It brought it home to me when I was sat with my kids watching Greatest Dancer and a drag troupe came on. The crowd went wild before they had started dancing and my kids were shocked at why it was popular at all. They asked why you don't see women dressed as men.
 
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I like proper drag/cabaret having spent most of my adult life around gay men, but it was always just (adult) comedy/entertainment and nothing to do with 'gender identity', no matter how much TRAs try and amend history to make anyone who has ever done anything gender non conforming as trans.

RuPaul's Drag Race is bleeping awful though.
 
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