Gender Discussion #19

[Vanelope]

The dancers are now worried they won’t be hired anywhere else as troublemakers. They can’t own their actions like Rosie has said what she said and stands up for it. I hope this hurts their careers, they have ended hers for no reason other than they didn’t agree with her. This is what affirming that contradictory opinions constitute ‘violence’ leads to.

As others had said before - this is not the same as racism or homophobia as those things are attacking who you are, rather than who you believe yourself to be and want other people to believe too.

 

[SqualorVictoria]

The dancers are now worried they won’t be hired anywhere else as troublemakers. They can’t own their actions like Rosie has said what she said and stands up for it. I hope this hurts their careers, they have ended hers for no reason other than they didn’t agree with her. This is what affirming that contradictory opinions constitute ‘violence’ leads to.

As others had said before - this is not the same as racism or homophobia as those things are attacking who you are, rather than who you believe yourself to be and want other people to believe too.

Those who promote cancel culture are now worried they too themselves are cancelled.... don't they realise that the woke pendulum can swing back on them

 

[witchofwestbyfleet]

Those who promote cancel culture are now worried they too themselves are cancelled.... don't they realise that the woke pendulum can swing back on them

Reminds me of Amanda Jette Knox who after "cancelling" everyone else as transphobic had the TRAs coming after her for "being a cis woman speaking over trans people" ... so she had to change direction right quick and declare herself non-binary

 

[Vanelope]

It has to be an ever decreasing circle of who is acceptable to talk. This is how the movement eats itself. It’s divisive, not inclusive, which is so ironic. Whereas feminism includes or should include all women, TRAs are very self selecting and all want to be more worthy than others.

 

[SqualorVictoria]

TRAs will say 'cis people need to stand up for us!' But then they'll also say 'cis people' are talking over them. And then they'll say 'it's not our job to educate people'. Bottom line is that nothing anyone ever does will be good enough for them. It's all about control

 

[witchofwestbyfleet]

It's not about her being a "cis woman." It is about the fact that China's internet is heavily censored, gay rights are very limited, and sex education is generally poor. To put it bluntly, I doubt ''most'' Chinese people would know about the mechanics of something like this unless they are gay/bi men or enjoy anal sex (at least from my own experience although I/my family are from Hong Kong.) Why does it always have to come down to trashing "cis women" or, in other words, women?

 

[maytoseptember]

does it always have to come down to trashing "cis women" or, in other words, women?

They also seem to forget that “cis” women have been writing slash fiction on the internet for 20+ years and no one back then used to complain that they weren’t gay men and therefore had no business writing sex scenes

Also, did people see this on Twitter yesterday? Yet another woke period product company pandering to fetishists. They’re in so deep they can’t even see the absurdity of platforming a male wearing period pants to feel “more comfortable” during his fictional “period”.

 

[weeweegie]

WTAF. No. No you don’t get a period you sick f**k. What an insult to all the women in pain every month of their goddam lives from 40 odd years!! I don’t want to be on this Earth anymore, this is too much.

It turns my stomach that this is out in the open on Twitter. I would love to see woke celebs comment on things like this. Would they still be saying TWAW? No, they’d be too busy being sick.

 

[Platformcrocs]

They also seem to forget that “cis” women have been writing slash fiction on the internet for 20+ years and no one back then used to complain that they weren’t gay men and therefore had no business writing sex scenes

Also, did people see this on Twitter yesterday? Yet another woke period product company pandering to fetishists. They’re in so deep they can’t even see the absurdity of platforming a male wearing period pants to feel “more comfortable” during his fictional “period”.

That's so gross. You know they're getting off on wearing period underwear too

 

[Mwah-mwah]

Also, did people see this on Twitter yesterday? Yet another woke period product company pandering to fetishists. They’re in so deep they can’t even see the absurdity of platforming a male wearing period pants to feel “more comfortable” during his fictional “period”.

I’m torn between being amused or repulsed by the absurdity of this kind of thing.
It’s laughable how delusional these people are, but frankly quite disturbing how much traction their nonsensical narratives are gaining.
I think a lot of women won’t realise the extent to which we’re being erased and alienated from female experiences until it’s too late.

 

[petitspois]

I was disappointed to read this in that BBC article:

‘Kay doesn't believe a person can change their biological sex and says her right to be gender critical is protected in law’.

As if a biological scientific fact is now just an opinion!

 

[Ruby’s mum]

Also, did people see this on Twitter yesterday? Yet another woke period product company pandering to fetishists. They’re in so deep they can’t even see the absurdity of platforming a male wearing period pants to feel “more comfortable” during his fictional “period”.

Some of the replies are savage and absolutely on point!

 

[nothanksbabes]

It's not about her being a "cis woman." It is about the fact that China's internet is heavily censored, gay rights are very limited, and sex education is generally poor. To put it bluntly, I doubt ''most'' Chinese people would know about the mechanics of something like this unless they are gay/bi men or enjoy anal sex (at least from my own experience although I/my family are from Hong Kong.) Why does it always have to come down to trashing "cis women" or, in other words, women?

Trans ideology = You can't determine someone's gender or gender identity by their appearance, unless you think they're cis.

They also seem to forget that “cis” women have been writing slash fiction on the internet for 20+ years and no one back then used to complain that they weren’t gay men and therefore had no business writing sex scenes

Also, did people see this on Twitter yesterday? Yet another woke period product company pandering to fetishists. They’re in so deep they can’t even see the absurdity of platforming a male wearing period pants to feel “more comfortable” during his fictional “period”.

Women all over the world are ostracised while menstruating, made to sleep in huts where they can freeze to death or be victims of sexual assault, and we're pandering to these dickheads. And look at the bleeping state of him.

 

[Luisa18]

They also seem to forget that “cis” women have been writing slash fiction on the internet for 20+ years and no one back then used to complain that they weren’t gay men and therefore had no business writing sex scenes

Also, did people see this on Twitter yesterday? Yet another woke period product company pandering to fetishists. They’re in so deep they can’t even see the absurdity of platforming a male wearing period pants to feel “more comfortable” during his fictional “period”.

PERIOD PANTS FOR WHAT?!?!?

 

[nothanksbabes]

PERIOD PANTS FOR WHAT?!?!?

For whatever's falling out of the grotty man-made skin wound he's pretending is a tina, presumably. Or the contents of his imagination.

 

[weeweegie]

I’m torn between being amused or repulsed by the absurdity of this kind of thing.
It’s laughable how delusional these people are, but frankly quite disturbing how much traction their nonsensical narratives are gaining.
I think a lot of women won’t realise the extent to which we’re being erased and alienated from female experiences until it’s too late.

I’ve tried to tell my mum about some of these things (not the perverted stuff obvs) and I think she thinks I’m mad. Everyday people are not aware what’s happening. But it’s insidious and is happening. I wish I didn’t know sometimes!

 

[CariettaWhite]

Ffs. Mate, YOU DON’T HAVE THE PLUMBING TO HAVE ANYTHING RESEMBLING A PERIOD.

If you’re bleeding you need a doctor. Then a psychiatrist.

 

[SqualorVictoria]

I’ve tried to tell my mum about some of these things (not the perverted stuff obvs) and I think she thinks I’m mad. Everyday people are not aware what’s happening. But it’s insidious and is happening. I wish I didn’t know sometimes!

The problem with trying to explain to someone who is unaware is that they think you sound completely bonkers! It has to be seen to be believed. And then you can't unsee it and almost wish you could go back to ignorant bliss

 

[Mwah-mwah]

I’ve tried to tell my mum about some of these things (not the perverted stuff obvs) and I think she thinks I’m mad. Everyday people are not aware what’s happening. But it’s insidious and is happening. I wish I didn’t know sometimes!

It’s truly frightening how this is taking hold and it’s being done under the guise of “harmless inclusivity”. I peaked when I realised how alienated I felt in an online support group for a gynaecological issue where the group rules state that we can’t use terms like “hey ladies” etc, it had be “women and AFAB” incase, God forbid, some transman in the group felt excluded.

 

[SqualorVictoria]

Canada has lost the plot