It absolutely does. Whatever position you take on this issue, the article is completely tainted by her inclusion.She might be an awful person but it doesn't minimise the point of the article.
Unless she was literally the only person who was quoted or interviewed I don’t see how this is the case at all.It absolutely does. Whatever position you take on this issue, the article is completely tainted by her inclusion.
Very this. Also, if I'm not mistaken, isn't she like 'ground zero' for the cotton ceiling? Wasn't it her saying No to working with a trans woman porn star that led that same trans women porn star to coin the term 'cotton ceiling' in the first place?The BBC may have used her as a source (possibly because many other women are afraid to speak up) but that doesn't negate the many problems with gender ideology. You can be an awful person and still make valid points about trans identified males coercing lesbians into sleeping with them
Because it demonstrates the complete lack of research and now any discerning reader will question the other sources. This was one of the few NAMED sources and she's a sexual predator with her own agenda.Unless she was literally the only person who was quoted or interviewed I don’t see how this is the case at all.
Yes, exactlyVery this. Also, if I'm not mistaken, isn't she like 'ground zero' for the cotton ceiling? Wasn't it her saying No to working with a trans woman porn star that led that same trans women porn star to coin the term 'cotton ceiling' in the first place?
That doesn’t mean the other sources are lying or have anything questionable about their character though? I’m sorry but implying you can’t or shouldn’t believe the other women or that their stories are undermined by one dodgy source that shouldn’t be there smacks of misogyny to meBecause it demonstrates the complete lack of research and now any discerning reader will question the other sources. This was one of the few NAMED sources and she's a sexual predator with her own agenda.
What's disturbing is that people are still sticking up for this article. What about Lily Cade's victims?It's disturbing that some people are not listening to women and discrediting them based on their character (and simultaneously discrediting the many other similar stories). Nothing ever changes and history repeats itself
Except that wasn't the articles purpose at all. The purpose was to expose a culture of coercion going on in these circles that is applauded and considered to be activism. That's the reason why it was newsworthy.BBC article whose whole purpose seems to be to paint trans women as sexual predators
I'm implying nothing of the sort. This is how journalism works. You quote one dodgy source and the rest of your article may as well be binned, especially as Cade is one of the few who was actually OK with being *named* when a cursory glance at the internet will show you exactly who she is. It's a problem.That doesn’t mean the other sources are lying or have anything questionable about their character though? I’m sorry but implying you can’t or shouldn’t believe the other women or that their stories are undermined by one dodgy source that shouldn’t be there smacks of misogyny to me
Er; what? You do realise it's possible to feel sorry for any and all victims and still believe what lesbians are saying about being coerced into sleeping with TiM's. It's not one or the otherWhat's disturbing is that people are still sticking up for this article. What about Lily Cade's victims?
So tribalistic in all honestyI'm implying nothing of the sort. This is how journalism works. You quote one dodgy source and the rest of your article may as well be binned, especially as Cade is one of the few who was actually OK with being *named* when a cursory glance at the internet will show you exactly who she is. It's a problem.
I'm being called misogynistic and tribalistic for saying there's a problem with the inclusion of a sexual predator as a source in a BBC article. OK.Er; what? You do realise it's possible to feel sorry for any and all victims and still believe what lesbians are saying about being coerced into sleeping with TiM's. It's not one or the other
No. Let’s be very clear. I have agreed that there is a problem with including a sexual predator in this article. You’re being called misogynistic for suggesting that the ‘article’ aka all the other women’s experiences and stories can simply be ‘binned’ because they included a sexual predator.I'm being called misogynistic and tribalistic for saying there's a problem with the inclusion of a sexual predator as a source in a BBC article. OK.
I'm saying you can't trust a report which includes a self-confessed sexual predator as one of its sources. I'm saying the article may as well be binned. But whatever, I'm out.No. Let’s be very clear. I have agreed that there is a problem with including a sexual predator in this article. You’re being called misogynistic for suggesting that the ‘article’ aka all the other women’s experiences and stories can simply be ‘binned’ because they included a sexual predator.
How fucking dare you.Do you purity police all assault victims and decide they should only be believed based on character?
What did SV say that was untrue?How fucking dare you.
Thanks for confirming my point. Youre suggesting that including one bad source undermines the trustworthiness of the other women. Why should it? Its insulting and misogynistic to them to suggest as much.I'm saying you can't trust a report which includes a self-confessed sexual predator as one of its sources. I'm saying the article may as well be binned. But whatever, I'm out.
I'm saying it undermines the article. I don't know how much more simply I can say it.Thanks for confirming my point. Youre suggesting that including one bad source undermines the trustworthiness of the other women.
This is a disgusting thing to say also, but it never fails to amaze me how quickly these discussions descend so quickly into such accusations.you’re coming across as positioning yourself on the same side (or sympathetic, at least) of convicted rapists, murderers and paedophiles.
The article is made up of women’s experiences no? So in turn you’re saying it undermines all their experiences. I don’t know how you can’t grasp that.I'm saying it undermines the article. I don't know how much more simply I can say it.
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