in both Spanish and italian they used the phrase "gender based violence" so gender does exist apart from sex. haven't been following the whole trans debate in these languages though so not sure about how they are being used in that context
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Also in Years and Years there's a young boy who is revealed to be a trans girl in the final episode - but the boy only ever started dressing up in girls clothes because his aunt (I think?) needed to pretend he was her daughter for a political ruse. It makes me wonder now if the writer (Russell T Davies) was making a subtle point against gender ideology, and how it's often pushed onto vulnerable kids by adults who should know better.
I was going to reply to this and just honestly gave up the ghost...
A few posts prior this poster was saying gender and sex aren't the same. Now they're claiming 'scientific studies' show gender exists.
I would bet my house that this isn't true. Gender is a social construct and it therefore cannot be 'proven' by science. At best, any empirical work in this area will be social science, probably qualitative looking at people's 'experiences' of gender. Qualitative work as a research paradigm does not seek to 'prove' a hypothesis in the same way that 'scientific studies' would.
At best, the alternative is this poster meant scientific studies show sex is a spectrum because of the existence of intersex people. But again, this is conflating sex and gender from someone who literally said 'gender' in a previous post. And from my reading of the empirical work on intersex people, it is not a 'spectrum' at all - that is why generally they are considered to be male or female still.
Cba.
Oh I agree completely it’s certainly a very Anglo/American centric phenomenon. I think the French language is another one that doesn’t have a word for gender (happy to be corrected). I’ve often wondered how this gender thing goes down in non-English speaking countries, obviously I know trans people exist in these countries but I wonder if they’re as demanding in terms of pronouns etc or if they just get on with it.
Interesting, just looked it up on Google Translate. Violenza di genere in Italian. I think this usage of genere is new in Italian, but I may be wrong.
I've known several people from my cultural background (East Asian) who have come out as trans or "non-binary", after hearing about gender ideology (often from English-speaking people on social media) they have come to the conclusion that they must not "really" be a man/woman if they're gay or gender non-conforming. Sometimes based on sexist/homophobic cultural ideas they've grown up with e.g. "women are designed to marry men and have babies, so if I'm not attracted to men or don't want children, could that mean I'm not really a woman?"
I believe sex dysphoria is real and can affect anyone. I despise the view that homosexuality is something essentially made up by the "liberal west" which is what conservatives everywhere would like people to believe. But gender ideology harms people around the world. In a way, it reminds me of a video I saw a while ago by a Polish domestic violence charity where a woman whose husband has beaten her is confronted by many different people encouraging her not to report it - "God says you should stay with your husband", "I'm sure he's sorry", "what will your children do without their father?" and so on. At one point, a politician tells her "we don't believe in women's rights like the failing west does, we're here to protect the traditional Polish family." As long as ideas like this are still being promoted, gender ideology will become more and more attractive to people who don't fit in and want to escape the pressure of "being a man" or "being a woman"
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I have so many 'I can't even' moments with this woman, but there is something so sad and so infuriating of a woman in a position of power using the phrase, "I refuse to call them women."
I knew feminism had a lot to do in my younger years, but never having to debate the use of women as a descriptor. We are in such a bloody mess.
She seems like a bleeping idiot. I honestly can’t stand people who go on about how it’s great to be morbidly obese. I’m all for acceptance and understanding but to be encouraging and “you go girl” and “you can still be healthy if your BMI is whatever” is just sad - no. No no no no. It’s not healthy. People may have many reasons why they overeat or have disordered eating patterns and I have 100% empathy for them - I know it can be an addiction. But it is not something to celebrate. So whatever guff she is spouting about not calling women “women” is only to be expected from someone as deeply deluded as she is.
Isn't it funny how quickly some women will do their best to centre the conversation on trans women? Not one person is saying trans women don't deserve the support of grape crisis centres. But their needs are very different to those of a "cis" woman.
It's not inhumane to suggest that trans women who need support from a grape crisis centre should have their own space. Give it a bleeping rest, Angela.
It's not inhumane to suggest that trans women who need support from a grape crisis centre should have their own space. Give it a bleeping rest, Angela.
Throughout the course of human history, men have tried to eradicate us by burning us, stoning us, incarcerating us, raping us. But the most insidious tactic of all is the one we're witnessing now: trying to become us.
I wonder how this doctor responds if a patient is explicit that they want to be referred to as a woman then? The ‘world’ ie one person’s medical treatment certainly does and should revolve around them. Something that’s often missed in this kind of discussion, if your principle is ‘respect people’s identities’ then that applies to everyone.
You have no patients with a uterus who aren't women. They may not want to be seen or acknowledged as women, but unfortunately, they are
I wonder how much fear motivates it, out of someone woker than thou coming along, "This post is offensive as it fails to recognise the needs of [insert group]." Or that women have been conditioned to serve the needs of men for so long that putting themselves front and centre is an alien concept. Or all of the above.
I don’t know what the world is coming to, I’m afraid to offend by even using the word female at this point,
looking back on the conversation on here, I do posts comments that start with “hey guys” and I’m shocked nobody has reported me as a homophobic mod
it’s not the first time I’ve heard “guys” is problematic and I’ve seen people refuse to use it anymore in case it’s insulting.Tis the season (all 12 months) to be a bleeping snowflake about everything in life.
There is a huge conversation on Twitter around calling Trisha Paytas “her” instead of “they/them”
Hands up I call her her and I refuse to use they/them when talking about her,
if anything it shows how ridiculous this has all become when people who are clearly trolling (she’s also said she’s transgender and a chicken nugget, and asked if r*pe was a turn on in the past) has people demanding she’s shown “respect” and addressed as “they/them”
I got called transphobic for saying I find it hard to respect someone who has already linked their gender/sex to a piece of battered chicken meat this year and told the world she’s trans
sorry just ranting
I was called transphobic and reported.
I won’t ever insult someone who genuinely struggles with their identity but the world has gone mad.
I'm still waiting for all these many scientific studies 
"since when does the world revolve around one person" yet we seem to be revolving everything around a tiny % of "people with uteruses" who claim not to be women
I wonder if she also refuses to call "people with prostates" men?I am not sure how recent it is in italian tbh, in Spain it has been used for a long time but they have been actively trying to deal with "violencia de genero" for decades, much more so than italy
I know I've mentioned this YouTuber before, but do check out TT Exulansic as she is providing commentary on some of the lesser desired outcomes of phalloplasty for trans-identified females.
A woman who underwent phalloplasty developed diverticulae as a result (out-pouches or pockets where the urine gets trapped & stagnates) and suffers with multiple bladder infections. They developed sepsis after the infection travelled to the kidneys and become so unwell, developed multiple blood clots and ended up in ITU. They require further surgery, but surprise! The surgeons aren't too keen to operate on them now.
Another women who had phalloplasty made a video on all the things they hate about it (despite sex-affirming surgery being touted as the cure for dysphoria). Their medical team failed to warn them that they may have to use a different skin graft - she had been having electrolysis on one side of her thigh. They took skin from the other, and as a result, hair continues to grow and they have to regularly shave the 'pen'.
The surgery left them incontinent (this was planned surgery that destroyed a person's healthy urinary function) and in order to completely void, they have to squeeze the 'ball pouch'. They're also developing diverticulae.
They're fixating on things they're not happy with i.e. they don't like where the base of the phallus is, they don't like it's colour as the thigh skin is lighter in tone than the rest of them, they don't like the length.
I find the medical transition of children deeply unethical, but the short and long-term effects of these surgeries in adults are being overlooked. If you operate on someone with a mental illness in an attempt to cure that illness, even without the complications in the first person, they will still not be satisfied. In the meantime, the doctors continue to experiment and cash in.
Another women who had phalloplasty made a video on all the things they hate about it (despite sex-affirming surgery being touted as the cure for dysphoria). Their medical team failed to warn them that they may have to use a different skin graft - she had been having electrolysis on one side of her thigh. They took skin from the other, and as a result, hair continues to grow and they have to regularly shave the 'pen'.
The surgery left them incontinent (this was planned surgery that destroyed a person's healthy urinary function) and in order to completely void, they have to squeeze the 'ball pouch'. They're also developing diverticulae.
They're fixating on things they're not happy with i.e. they don't like where the base of the phallus is, they don't like it's colour as the thigh skin is lighter in tone than the rest of them, they don't like the length.
I find the medical transition of children deeply unethical, but the short and long-term effects of these surgeries in adults are being overlooked. If you operate on someone with a mental illness in an attempt to cure that illness, even without the complications in the first person, they will still not be satisfied. In the meantime, the doctors continue to experiment and cash in.
So ‘the world does not revolve around one person’ when it’s a woman who wants to be called a woman, but we can change language and have the world revolve around a
Makes as much sense as the rest of this bull I guess…
To be honest the only time I would agree with the Dr there that not everyone with a uterus is a woman is if we were talking about a TIM who'd had a uterus transplant
(I know it's not physically possible I'm not trying to start that discussion again!)Isn't it strange, I could be branded transphobic for saying a male with a transplant still isn't a woman, and yet there is no problem with people saying we can't refer to actual women as women?
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