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Why would we care about being called transphobic by people who are sexist? It’s just that old chestnut for me now, you really have to laugh tbh
 
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I’ve noticed a lot absolutely lose their tit if they call you transphobic and you don’t capitulate to their superior ethical take on stuff as a result.
Well they’ve had international companies and places like the royal academy of arts give in to their demands with the absolute fear of being called transphobic - so obviously they don’t know how to cope when that doesn’t work
 
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Being called transphobic by one of them is like being called a heretic by a religious person- I'm not part of your religion so work away and call me whatever you want if it pleases you
 
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This is why JK Rowling attracts so much venom. She refuses to be cowed, she carries on with her life, she hasn’t changed her views (which are not that extreme) and being named as queen of the terfs hasn’t altered her stance. She is very wealthy and can afford protection and therefore has more privilege to say these things and yet so many others do not. The RA thing was insane - 8 complaints and they were petrified. TRAs have too much perceived power and I think they have overreached. There will be a reckoning but I’m terribly afraid women and girls will have been attacked before people see the truth.
 
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I have so many thoughts about it. Is it just mental illness? Is it a culture that positively applauds such intense and endless navel gazing and labelling of oneself? Is it just “not like the other girls” to the power or ten? 🤷‍♀️
Taking a look at her channel, I think she's a teenager and seems to be very #notlikeothergirls and I'm sooo random 🤪. I sometimes think back to my teen years and tbh sometimes I wonder if the main difference is simply we weren't publically recording our embarrassing teenhood for posterity.
 
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Being called transphobic by one of them is like being called a heretic by a religious person- I'm not part of your religion so work away and call me whatever you want if it pleases you
They have so much bile and anger. As they are middle aged males their blood pressure must be through the roof. Also more likely to have heart attacks. But then sex based medicine isn’t a thing is it?
 
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Taking a look at her channel, I think she's a teenager and seems to be very #notlikeothergirls and I'm sooo random 🤪. I sometimes think back to my teen years and tbh sometimes I wonder if the main difference is simply we weren't publically recording our embarrassing teenhood for posterity.
It's a good point. I do wonder how many people actually believe all this, or how many are just going along with the social contagion. Teenagers might pretend to want to be unique but we all just wanted to fit in and be liked at that age.

Maybe we should all start identifying as non binary, parents, teachers, etc as well. That should knock the contagion on its head once it becomes 'uncool'
 
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Maybe we should all start identifying as non binary, parents, teachers, etc as well. That should knock the contagion on its head once it becomes 'uncool'
What I think is quite sad is surely the essence of ‘non binary’ is what feminists want in general? Freedom from gender norms and stereotypes. But for everyone, not just people who ‘identify’ as it. I dunno, I feel like sometimes with this we’re not as apart as we think. Obviously I’m very against anyone pretending sex doesn’t exist and men accessing women’s spaces etc etc but non binary I find weird and sad because it’s like we’re arguing for the same thing in different packaging
 
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It's a good point. I do wonder how many people actually believe all this, or how many are just going along with the social contagion. Teenagers might pretend to want to be unique but we all just wanted to fit in and be liked at that age.

Maybe we should all start identifying as non binary, parents, teachers, etc as well. That should knock the contagion on its head once it becomes 'uncool'
Her parents should invent a whole range of custom pronouns and have bracelets traffic lighting which is to be used.
 
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They would hate having non binary parents with custom pronouns. No longer Mum and Dad but Zig and Zog.
 
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Exactly @judgejohndeed in reality, everyone is a bit 'non binary' in the true sense of the word. There are some sex based stereotypes I conform to and others I don't. Same as every single person on the planet I'm sure! It's just sad that non binary in the gender ideology sense of the word means breast binders and hormones and all that stuff
 
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What an exhausting way to live your life. They just expect people to notice their bracelets and know what they mean? What if the bracelets get lost? They’d be ducked! This is not normal. These people live in fantasy land.
this is the thing, most people don't just have stereotypically male or female traits, we are a mix of both, why the need to divide yourself? Imagine telling your employer they need to address you differently on different days :ROFLMAO:
 
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Lightbulb 💡 I even have days where I wear heels and makeup and other days when I wear jeans and a cap. Almost as if I can change how I feel and what I wear. But I don’t require snaps for this. I’m cool 😎
 
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This German transwoman listing about 100 surgeries and said, “I transitioned early, I felt more like a girl, I wanted to wear make up, have long hair...” got a boob job at 16. Why are the only people to say, ‘Hang on a sec, what do you mean, FEEL like a woman? What is it about womanhood you’re FEELING in yourself?’ are being called transphobes/Nazis? Surely it’s the first thing you’d ask if someone said that?! Not rocket science to do a bit of questioning, surely? Same as you would if you said you ‘feel’ Korean. If I wore a beret, hung some garlic around my neck and rode a bike with a baguette under my arm, does that make me feel French?
 
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Something I’ve noticed a lot on social media, if there really isn’t an argument to be made in defence of something ridiculous (neo pronouns for example) commenters will just resort to ‘you don’t have to understand it just respect it!’ how worrying that the younger generations are actively discouraging critical thought and telling peers to just accept what they are being told - it’s just so sad when so much of youth culture in the past has been about questioning authority
I've been thinking along similar lines. I think it tries to relate back to a time when men would feel really comfortable telling gay guys that they 'just didn't get it, they could never be with a dude.' And the reasonable response was 'you don't need to get it'. Reasonable, but also wrong. Because a straight person understands sexual attraction, love, desire, etc., so there is nothing to get.

However, the concept of non-binary is genuinely incomprehensible to most people. I know I'm just a nobody online right now, but in real life I'm very empathetic. I've mentioned my trauma here before. I have years of therapy behind me, after experiencing childhood sexual abuse. I understand people's struggle, I really do. I want people to be well. But all I see when I see that kid on Tik Tok is someone who is sad and not well. Someone who wants attention and love. Labelling yourself endlessly is not the way to get there. Whatever happened to radical self-acceptance and love?

I would truly like to understand what non-binary means, but whenever I've asked I've been told to 'educate myself' or 'you don't need to understand it.'. Seems like a very strange response.
 
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I'd love to watch a documentary which catches up with all these non-binary-my-gender-is-like-eating-alphabetti-spaghetti in about ten years time.

I guarantee these uber hip, "cool cats" are settled down, in boring jobs like accountant* or something else as dreary with 2.4 children in their normal terraced houses with their normal relationships as they go by Mr and Mrs/Ms Brown/Jones/Smith and are so painfully NORMAL and not special in any which way.

This is not sustainable. Zog's children are not going to be called Zogster Smith and Zoggette Smith at school now, are they?

* I am an accountant so I can mock ;)
 
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I'd love to watch a documentary which catches up with all these non-binary-my-gender-is-like-eating-alphabetti-spaghetti in about ten years time.

I guarantee these uber hip, "cool cats" are settled down, in boring jobs like accountant* or something else as dreary with 2.4 children in their normal terraced houses with their normal relationships as they go by Mr and Mrs/Ms Brown/Jones/Smith and are so painfully NORMAL and not special in any which way.

This is not sustainable. Zog's children are not going to be called Zogster Smith and Zoggette Smith at school now, are they?

* I am an accountant so I can mock ;)
I've worked with someone recently who has decided he is non binary, nothing has changed in his behaviour or appearance except he now makes a massive bleeping deal about being Mx and insisting we use they/them pronouns. In a profession dominated by men already and that has a huge problem with recruiting and retaining women, I honestly find it a total joke tbh.
 
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I've worked with someone recently who has decided he is non binary, nothing has changed in his behaviour or appearance except he now makes a massive bleeping deal about being Mx and insisting we use they/them pronouns. In a profession dominated by men already and that has a huge problem with recruiting and retaining women, I honestly find it a total joke tbh.
I’m sure he’ll be receiving his diversity award any day now for being non-binary in a male dominated profession. Such a martyr!
 
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