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HaveSomeMilk

HaveSomeMilk

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Chidera has gone full blown witch hunt now and it’s all over “coffee table feminism” which is easily digestible and easily regurgitated hence why there are many many books dedicated to the subject.

gotta say idk why she’s so up in arms about the fact that there are tables in Waterstones dedicated to Florences book and that hers isn’t being advertised... well didn’t florences only just get published? It would make sense for a shop trying to maximise sales to display a newly published and popular book over one that was published a few years ago.

I can understand her anger at the management company because they probably could have tried harder to make sure the content for Florences book was different enough from Chideras but the fact that most of the flack is being dished out at Florence when she probably had less to do with it than we alll think is kinda sexist IMO slightly ironically
 
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korma said:
Init lmao, acting like her tweets and salty shitposts weren't just recycled clichés. It's so embarrassing to watch. I think this girl might have singlehandedly ended her own career, everyone with any credibility on the platform is avoiding her like the plague and the only people taking her seriously are knock-kneed, spineless white girls riddled with white guilt who are terrified of being cancelled themselves. If you have to bully and emotionally blackmail people into supporting you, you're probably not at the helm of a worthy cause.
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I mean bullying people into agreeing with you is kind of Florence's whole vibe though....
 
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Bubblemamaa22 said:
She's driving me even more mad than usual at the moment.
People are being blown up, shot in the head and systematically starved, cant afford to put their heating on or feed their kids - and she's here shaking her arse in front of a room stuffed with clothes, putting on outfits and giving her. best life coach spiel. Manifesting her joy. Telling everyone that her main worries are that she can't just fit all of her DREAMS in at once. And its SO hard.

She has such unimaginable privilege.

Not to mention travelling around endlessly with seemingly no budget, sitting in coffee shops thinking about her hair and clothes and jewellery and how cool she must look oh, and "writing" of course.

What a fucking inspiring person.

She makes me feel fucking sick. So self absorbed.
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I am right on the verge of unfollowing, with aaaall the same thoughts you've articulated so well here. She used to be one of my FAVES but that is going downhill at a great rate of knots!
 
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Nah she is doing an accent, she doesn’t normally drop her ts like that, it sounds mockney :)
 
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stopthescams

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Why does she keep saying she doesn’t dislike Florence Given and avoiding what she’s doing by saying it’s okay because she isn’t adding comments to the screenshots? Honestly I thought she’d screenshot a few but she has taken it so far now and she can’t keep saying she “doesn’t dislike florence” - it’s ok to say you don’t like her lol you clearly don’t but the way she’s going about it is so problematic now. This is all so messy!
 
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oczymlody said:
I’ve been saying this stuff on here for a while now but feel that people often leap to her defence. It’s all quite cultish.
She is extremely performative and I find her lack of life experience is a huge issue when she’s telling people how to live their lives. As I’ve said here earlier, my relationship has gone through some major stuff and all this ‘dump him’ is a crock of shit. Life isn’t like that when you have actual real world problems, and your main things to do in a day aren’t to record ‘hilarious content’ for Instagram. I just cannot take to her, I think she’s immature, childish and narcissist... and damn insincere.

Come back when you have issues to navigate through and see if then your mantra is the main thing governing your life??? Like how do people find someone like that helpful??
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I remember when I first saw the “dump him” thing and at the time I was in a really awkward place coming to terms with my past relationship. This saying makes it so much easier to self blame and also minimises the amount of pressure in a relationship. You’re 100% right - dump him is a crock of shit.
 
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They have the same management too. Slumflower said the quote was about Florence given in general but has been taken out of context and put on front of Florence givens book.

Although apparently Chidera has stolen a lot of her ideas from sex workers hasn’t shown accountability. So the whole thing is a mess..

I hope Florence addresses it... it doesn’t look good at all if she says nothing
 
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Zippity_zap

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Beautiful looking girl but her hair always looks like it needs a right good wash. Blonde hair tends to show the grease less too, in my experience
 
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northernspaces

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sugarytea said:
Tbh, I'm not a fan of hers. I get the impression she's well up her own butt.

I used to follow her but when she posted about copyrighting the font she uses for her art as 100% hers, that just pissed me off. That font is well known everywhere as derived from the 70s hippy era, like flo hon you were born in the 90s, thats not yours to claim :rolleyes:

Also I find her whole attitude around not removing hair to be arrogant. Ive come across this new age of feminism before that implies you're a "better" feminist if you choose not to shave. Like hair removal is a personal choice, no one is better than anyone for having hairy armpits. Hell, you're certainly not a better feminist.

Edit: I forgot she's only 21 so late 90s/early 00s?
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Erm... have you read her book?? She has a whole section dedicated to not judging women on how good a feminist they are based on what they do. She specifically says dont judge other women for shaving/getting surgery etc.... Surprised to see someone agree with your take when thats what she speaks against in her book.
 
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I donated to LBG and I don't regret it. She's spent days reading all these messages from people, some of which are going to be emotionally taxing because people on the internet are very quick to share their trauma. She also very likely has FG fangirls in her DMs constantly.

It's not about one or the other, I also donate to charities as well, but I don't think there's anything wrong with paying someone for the work they've done. LBG has spent most of her week doing this and I'm happy that she's being paid for it.

I don't know enough about CE to make any bold statements about how I feel about her, but I will say I don't think this was financially driven at all. I think this was very real frustration, that, warranted or not, she needed to express. I can understand how difficult this must have been to need to do so without being the angry black woman.

I am concerned for both CE and FG because being involved in social media backlash is really emotionally taxing. I would bet that FG would take peace over some extra book sales rn. I had a friend be 'cancelled' over a tweet a year or so ago and she literally has PTSD from the experience because of how awful people can be on the internet.

I donated to LBG and I don't regret it. She's spent days reading all these messages from people, some of which are going to be emotionally taxing because people on the internet are very quick to share their trauma. She also very likely has FG fangirls in her DMs constantly.

It's not about one or the other, I also donate to charities as well, but I don't think there's anything wrong with paying someone for the work they've done. LBG has spent most of her week doing this and I'm happy that she's being paid for it.

I don't know enough about CE to make any bold statements about how I feel about her, but I will say I don't think this was financially driven at all. I think this was very real frustration, that, warranted or not, she needed to express. I can understand how difficult this must have been to need to do so without being the angry black woman.

I am concerned for both CE and FG because being involved in social media backlash is really emotionally taxing. I would bet that FG would take peace over some extra book sales rn. I had a friend be 'cancelled' over a tweet a year or so ago and she literally has PTSD from the experience because of how awful people can be on the internet.
 
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korma

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GossipLady said:
What is so wrong to expect a company who is run by white people, who are preaching about BLM, who manage black people and make money off them, to donate a small amount of the money them make to BLM? Also they complained about her demand to add a BLM landing page but then did it anyway? She also said in their original meeting they actually eventually agreed, them changed their minds again. They were free to say no, originally, then they could've parted ways, but they weren't as open as that. It also doesn't excuse their abhorrent

They showed no evidence of this... so I think really you can't assume that they do. She is saying they didn't enough. So it is up in the air but I haven't seen anything on their social media or website about such. Again, as I said, they could've explained, they could have parted ways. They said they wouldn't, then would, then wouldn't - not very professional is it?

She stated what she felt comfortable with which she is entitled to do it any working environment. I think you're kind of forgetting that they are management too - it isn't a paid job that she has with them, management works by the person being managed paying the management I would imagine... then they both can profit of work the person being managed does too. So they have a responsibility for her and her causes too.

Adding a landing page to a website does not change the whole structure. They didn't create it. It is existed already and other companies had used it. It was an open source thing for companies to add to their websites. I work in IT, it is not a difficult thing to do. Plus, they did it anyway?
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I think they changed their minds because Chidera later emailed them indicating that she wouldn't go ahead with plans for a podcast until they had conceded to her demands - which she hadn't mentioned at the meeting the previous day. I wouldn't wanna work with a client like that who tries to force changes of contract on me by being unclear and continually moving the goal posts.
 
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ahstopcmeregway said:
The Top Critical Review on Amazon sums it up perfectly:
"This book has been somewhat empowering. Florence Given has made some feminist ideas digestible. However, it is digestible for white, middle-class, pretty women whilst disguising itself as being intersectional. Florence has taken it upon herself to be the voice of many and speak up on issues that she has never experienced herself such as disability and fatphobia. Her approach and the words she uses to define these experiences can be extremely damaging to people who live the reality of what she is merely theorising. In one section, she has created "privilege checklists" which are too overly simplified. The disability checklist only looks at disability from a visible perspective and completely ignores those who suffer with invisible disabilities which is invalidating and trivialising for those with hidden disabilities. I really wish that Florence Given would learn to pass the mic. If you want to feel really, truly empowered then I recommend What a Time to Be Alone by Chidera Eggerue."
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That’s her Women don’t owe you pretty book. We’re talking about her new novel which seems a bit of a money grab 😆
 
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